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Daily Kos poll suggests Union movement no match for TEA Party

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By request, I took a look at this poll by PPP for Daily Kos and SEIU. Markos Moulitsas himself is hyping the poll as showing an enthusiasm gap, which of course was one big indicator of the electoral wipeout we saw in 2010.

I think that he’s right, to a degree. However I read the figures as having two conclusions: First, the TEA party effect is still there, and Republicans are slightly more engaged than Democrats at this early point in the cycle. Second, the Union activism of this year is not having the same engagement effect with Democrats, that the TEA party, the ARRA, and the PPACA had with Republicans.

The key numbers in question: 420 Democrats were polled in this sample of registered voters nationwide, for an MoE of 4.8. 340 Republicans were polled for an MoE of 5.3. The excitement figures: 52% of Democrats are very excited, 31% are somewhat excited, and 17% are not at all excited. For Republicans it goes to 61%, 25%, and 14%. I estimate that there’s an 81% chance that Republicans have a non-zero advantage among the very excited, and a 61% chance of a non-zero advantage among those who are at all excited. So I conclude this polls hows that Republicans have an engagement advantage over Democrats, per this poll.

Further, union activism around events in Wisconsin and other states has not evened up the parties. In fact, the Republican advantage among all excited voters was a deficit last month. Look at the poll taken five weeks earlier. At that time it was 381 Democrats (MoE 5.0), 371 Republicans (MoE 5.1). For Democrats enthusiasm was at 57/30/13, and for Republicans it was at 63/21/16. So in the last month we’ve seen Democrats shift down the enthusiasm spectrum about as much as Republicans have. In March the chance of a Republican advantage among the most excited I have at 72% (vs 81% this month), and among all those excited the Democrats were up 87-84, or a 62% chance for Democrats to have a true advantage (61% for Republicans this month).

So I’m forced to conclude, based on the movement of the Kos/SEIU poll that whatever bump in enthusiasm Democrats may have gotten over Wisconsin is not lasting, and what appeared to some to be a revival of unionism in America is not shaping up to be a left-wing counterweight to the right-wing TEA party. Republicans have more intense excitement about defeating Barack Obama than do Democrats have in re-electing him, and the trend is in the wrong direction for Democrats.

Crossposted from Unlikely Voter

COMMENTS

  • lukematthews

    “That said, if I’m Obama’s team, I’m not particularly enthused about voter intensity numbers showing your base voters less engaged than the opposition, with the reelection season already upon us.” The Daily Kosmonaut himself.

    What I found key to this comment was his distancing himself from the president, which is something happening more often among Democrats. Even more than before the 2010 election, Democrats are comfortable and even eager to distinguish themselves from The Won. This doesn’t even begin to explain how the centrist Democrats are feeling. His Incompetency has driven a wedge between the probusiness and prosperity Democrats and the bulk of the party. That is why we are seeing a surge in independents and a swirl of people no longer identifying themselves as Democrats. They are embarrassed by him and even more so when their fellow party members are bashing private property rights and free markets. From Gallup’s party identification analysis, “the five-point drop in Democratic identification over the past two years, from the party’s 22-year high of 36% (tying the 1988 figure) to its 22-year low of 31%, is notable.” There ‘leans’ graph showed even greater losses with Republicans at 44 and Democrats at 45%. They are tanking without a net.

  • carolina

    Now…….. if we can only find this ‘right’ candidate.

  • scarlos

    He’s down to a 4-point lead with Generation Y which supported him almost 2:1 in 2008, and down to a 13-point lead with Hispanics, who supported him by over 40 points in 2008.

    The two pillars of the Democrat’s “Permanent majority” appear to be buckling under the weight of an actual Democratic presidency.

  • wennejunk

    Just 4 years ago the various prophets were declaring a Conservative GOP permanent majority.

    These things are possible but only when the party in power delivers the goods to the faithful (and wishful) that elect them.

    There seems to be much more energy expended in getting into office and staying vs. actually doing something productive. That seems to be the only truly bipartisan activity in the elected offices.

  • http://www.hakubi.us/ Neil Stevens

    That some said one thing then, and others say another now, doesn’t really demonstrate anything.

  • 6eorge Jetson

    So there was a small typo on Carville’s book cover

  • AceInTX

    …to protect Locals…so I think they see real trouble ahead…

    Firefighters’ union money goes local

    This could be Huge if the RNC picks up on this and Republicans at the state level keep applying pressure….we could squeeze all the union money out of Washington and all of a sudden you’ll see Washington Dems crapping their pants as they scramble to find funding to replace what they lost from the Unions.

  • Finrod

    .

  • edintexas

    A fortnight is an obscure time reference? I guess it HAS been a long time since English Lit was a required subject in Middle School/JHS/HS (or even college/university).

  • edintexas

    Aside from the first sentence of wennejunk’s post, which is what you apparently warned about, the remainder has more than a modicum of truth to it.

  • blaze422

    Has African Americans as the most excited ethnic block voting in 2012

    Has 18-29 year olds as the age group with the highest positives towards Republicans

    Has 20 % of Tea Partiers thinking Obama is either Too Conservative or Just right

    I just do buy it.

  • blaze422
  • earlgrey

    pardon my ignorance. I just don’t understand it.

  • earlgrey

    by percentage than other groups. They make a larger percentage of voters than their percentage in the general population.

  • http://www.scragged.com petrarch

    To tell the Kossacks, hey, you need to get fired up here?

  • Darin_H

    I mean, the Democrats threw everything they had at the Judicial election in WI, and LOST. I dunno about you, but wouldn’t be pumped to throw everything I had again, knowing it probably won’t be enough – a lot of people have other things to do.

  • http://www.hakubi.us/ Neil Stevens

    Just throwing it out there. As I said, it was by request. :)

  • http://www.hakubi.us/ Neil Stevens