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Romney still leading, Huntsman out of the Hunt in New Hampshire?

New Hampshire

Three quick polls of New Hampshire came out this week to try to measure the effect of Iowa on New Hampshire. Predictably, the top three of Iowa are now the top three in New Hampshire.

This matters most to the one candidate that put nothing into Iowa and everything into New Hampshire: Jon Huntsman.

I don’t expect any huge poll errors this time, though. Caucuses are weird, and closed caucuses are probably one of the hardest things to poll. But New Hampshire’s event is an open primary, which is much more like the traditional general election that pollsters have practiced. I expect normalcy when polling this state.

I’m not going to analyze it too deeply though, not as long as Mitt Romney holds the huge leads he has. In December he mostly fell in a range of 33-39. Ron Paul stayed in the 17-21 range. Rick Santorum was steady from 2-4. Jon Huntsman was competitive for the key third place spot in his 9-13 range, with Newt Gingrich sliding from 24-12.

But that’s all gone now. Romney now appears to be pushing over 40 and Santorum has jumped to double figures. Paul has stayed firm, so the candidates losing out are Huntsman who now has gone as low as 8, and Gingrich who is entirely showing in the single figures now.

Two of three polls have Huntsman in fifth place. The other has him in fourth, 30 points off the lead. For a one-state candidate, that’s death.

The polls themselves: Rasmussen Reports, Suffolk University/WHDH 7News, and JZ Analytics/Washington Times. And I’ve already been asked this before so I’ll just say it here: JZ Analytics appears to be a Zogby spinoff, but is not a poll in the style of Zogby Interactive. Don’t just dismiss it because of the Zogby name.

Crossposted from Unlikely Voter

COMMENTS

  • vaaztx

    ?should move their primary/caucus/convention or whatever they hold to next week to give Huntsman a fighting chance.

  • joshdunn

    The Utahns like Romney better than Huntsman.

    He has no chance of getting the nomination.

  • goodgovernance

    But New Hampshire has a history of big, surprising swings at the last minute. Just last cycle, look what happened with Hillary and Obama.

    Also, the people of New Hampshire tend not to like corronating anyone. Giving Romney the win helps close the process down, not keep it going. New Hampshire voters will think about that, I think.

    And let’s not forget that Romney has now decided the win is in the bag, and has jetted off to South Carolina. Taking New Hampshire for granted has never been a smart strategy.

    I think there’s still a lot of volatility left before Tuesday. Especially as there are two more debates to be had until the voting begins.

    Huntsman surge, baby. It’s coming.

    (What, the Perry supporters can believe their guy still has a chance, but I can’t? That’s not right…)

  • http://www.hakubi.us/ Neil Stevens

    Don’t threadjack.

  • vaaztx

    ?I never thought Huntsman was out to win this year, I think he just wanted to raise his profile enough to be legitimate in 2016 (I’m not sure he’s really helped himself in that regard).

    And someone has actually bothered to poll Utah?

  • goodgovernance

    Just making a joke, seriously not trying to threadjack.

  • veto

    Pains to say don’t it? Conservatives should have rallied around one candidate in Iowa we knew he would win NH. So let’s see he won Iowa, NH, ahead in SC? Definitely will win Florida. Virginia only one other candidate is on the ballet.

    It’s over

  • goodgovernance

    The thing about Romney, even if he lost in South Carolina and Florida, it’s not the end for him, as it would be for most other candidates.

    Even if the anti-Romney candidate emerged with 75% of the base behind him, Romney still has the organizational skill, the money, and the SuperPacs to carpet bomb the anti-Romney all the way to the nomination. He can do what he did to Newt, on an even larger scale.

    Now if the anti-Romney really did have 75% behind him, with their money and passionate support, it’s at least an even fight. But without that kind of unity emerging quickly, the field is heavily tilted in Romney’s favor.

  • elayman

    What they really deserve is a perfectly establishment governor that was terrible in every way that Huntsman was excellent, no foreign policy experience, that the entire election cycle has been about trying to destroy and they deserve without question to lose another election to President Obama.

  • renl57

    …has ended Huntsman’s chances.

    The Boston Globe, a liberal Dem newspaper that has always endorsed any candidate named Kennedy anywhere, endorsed Huntsman today, citing his allegedly moderate positions.

    I doubt that will endear Huntsman to base Republicans in NH.

    Huntsman and his supporters keep insisting how conservative he is–while The Globe and other liberals keep complimenting Huntsman on how “moderate” and “reasonable” he is (from their point of view).

    He can’t square that circle.

  • renl57

    Either he totally misread the mood of the rank-and-file Republicans, or else he didn’t care and hoped to draw Independent and Dem votes in open primaries.

    But either way, Huntsman failed to pass the essential test of any challenger seeking to defeat an incumbent (Obama in this case):

    Explain cogently to the voters why the incumbent should not be re-elected.

    It’s NEVER enough for the challenger to cite his own credentials. He has to convince the voters to kick the incumbent out of office.

    Every other candidate, including Paul and Cain and Bachmann, could finish the following sentence: “Obama does not deserve a second term as President because….”

    Huntsman has never done that, AFAIK.

  • elayman

    In ads, interviews, debates and town halls. On everything from the economy to healthcare to immigration to foreign policy (Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya and of course China).

    Did you even try to look it up ? In a less polarized year Jon would have without a doubt been a formidable contender from the outset. The Republican base is looking for excuses in retrospect why such a gem of an opportunity was basically left to wither on the vine, and the campaign does shoulder a portion of the blame, but conservatives also need to take it up with themselves because voter negligence is a prime contributing cause to all the debacles of this primary cycle.

  • flgal208

    If Jon is able to land some good, solid punches (above the belt), If he can score, then his numbers could go up. He’s my second choice BECAUSE we need a GOV and NOT Willard and his record in Utah is second to Perry’s. WHo I want LEAST is santorum. He has even less credentials to LEAD, than Newt and neither have done ANYTHING in years.

    My choices: PERRY, Huntsman, Willard (gag), Newt, RS. IMHO, ONLY PERRY is the true constitutionalist, so the other three choices are only in ranking by qualifications for the job because if we don’t get Perry in there, BO wins. IF some miracle happens a Pub wins, then I at least want the one with best shot of doing the least damage.

  • flgal208

    so why not Jon?? LOL!!

  • elayman

    Hey, I’ve never heard of the Franklin Center – but that is the level at which Santorum started his breakout in Iowa. I think the Boston Globe endorsement in combination with his new ad will carry a lot of weight in a centrist state like NH. The fundraising has picked up in a big way over the last couple of days and crowds have been huge for a few weeks. Fingers crossed !

    http://www.facebook.com/l.php?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.franklincenterhq.org%2F2924%2Fnew-poll-shows-romney-leading-in-nh-followed-by-paul-and-huntsman%2F&h=BAQFiwpVNAQGV9aua4qGCkwLtsLnxy-Fwfr9EeFWiIZ4NKA

  • dpmapper

    Have they never called someone conservative who was actually moderate? They make mistakes.

    All other things (like political positions) equal, isn’t it a GOOD thing that someone is thought of as reasonable and moderate by non-Republicans? I’d certainly rather have a conservative who gets the media thinking he’s a moderate than a moderate who fools the media into thinking he’s a conservative.

    Let’s actually THINK about our candidates and come to our own conclusions about whether their political positions make them conservatives, rather than relying on the Boston Globe to tell us, OK?

  • dpmapper

    Too bad, really.

  • http://www.timothy-bladel.com/ center77

    http://www.nytimes.com/2012/01/06/us/politics/rick-perry-may-still-be-in-the-presidential-race-even-after-his-iowa-defeat.html?_r=2&ref=todayspaper

    This is why we love him, he fights for us, so we fight for him

  • swami7774

    Saturday night’s debate is directly opposite the best NFL playoff game of the weekend, while Sunday’s is at 9AM.
    Crickets.

  • pttx333

    l

  • goodgovernance

    about the bigger crowd sizes (assuming it’s not just the natural increase everybody gets as the primary draws near). To me that’s actually more of a real sign of interest in Huntsman, as opposed to any poll numbers right now. Thanks for sharing that info, elayman! I’m encouraged.

    I do hope to see the polls start to shift after the debates by Sunday, into Monday, though. Go Huntsman!

  • http://redmerrimack.blogspot.com/ charliebravoNH

    The Patriots have a first round bye.

  • septembergurl

    Because so-called “conservatives” launched an attack on him from day one. This includes talk radio, blogs like RedState and HotAir, as well as more mainstream republican types who rarely mention Huntsman. Specifically, Limbaugh, Levin, and others who promised us a new Ronald Reagan and who have given us a choice between Romney and Santorum. Yes, these geniuses think Santorum will be a great candidiate.

    Luckily for us — Huntsman supporters — Huntsman is not going to give up. He has plenty of money and will go forward assuming a decent finish in NH. That would be second, third, fourth — who knows?

    The attacks on Huntsman are hilarious — he has not attacked Obama? Please. At least try to be in the realm of the actual.

  • nancysabet

    Yep — this is one ad Rick Perry won’t have to dig himself out from under in a general election: http://youtu.be/IIUNtHm22-Q

  • http://redmerrimack.blogspot.com/ charliebravoNH

    That is a big zero. A lot of people in NH hate MA and the crappy institutions that run that state. The Boston Globe is one of them. Hunstman would have been better off with an endorsement from a NH paper.

  • katem

    He’s in third place (with 16%) in a poll that came out today. He will do well. NH is a Romney stronghold but Romney’s support is not very deep. In addition to the Boston Globe’s endorsement, Huntsman took 2 more local newspaper endorsements today. That’s in addition to the several local newspaper endorsements plus The Concord Monitor’s endorsement that he already had. We’ll see what happens in the 2 debates this weekend but Huntsman should place higher than Santorum in NH. Then he’s on to S.C., where he already has some key endorsements.

  • thosjefferson

    The numbers look great. Romney’s way up in NH and SC, and surely when the next Florida poll comes out it will show the same thing.

    Gingrich, at best, is a spoiler. Paul’s going to keep taking his percentage. Everyone is getting a look at Santorum’s lobbying activities and DC insider status, which as Perry rightly points out is exactly the opposite of what we need.

    This is exactly what we need at this point: come together for Romney and then spend the rest of the year focusing on Obama and Congress.

  • nancysabet

    Romney Hears Perry is still in.wmv
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=novRzrrymFQ&feature=share

  • nancysabet

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=novRzrrymFQ&feature=share

  • thosjefferson

    The SuperPacs just reminded people about Newt. Newt did himself in with his lie during the debate about his FreddieMac money (no one believes they paid $1.6 million for “historian” services), his premature declaration that he would be the nominee, and his visible out-of-control rage at losing in Iowa.

    If he really wants to defeat Obama, he needs to get behind Romney ASAP and get out campaigning for a Republican Congress.

  • septembergurl

    from New Hampshire newspapers than ANY other candidate inclusding Romney.

    In addition to the Boston Glabe, a major paper that serveas all of New England, the following papers have endorsed Huntsman:

    concord Monitor
    Laconia citizen
    Eagle Times
    Keene Sentinel
    Valley News

    So, you are wrong. Kindly acknowledge — thanks.

    To repeat (which is obviously necessary here): Huntsman has more endorsements from New Hampshire papers than any other candidate. So your comment is wrong. Also stupid.

  • gekster

  • goodgovernance

    but Romney’s not in the bunker, yet. Right now it’s springtime for him and the Establishment.

    Winter… for the Tea Party… and conservatives? Let’s hope not!

  • goodgovernance

    New Hampshire DOES have a history of surprising, and Huntsman really is the kind of candidate who should do well there. I think people there won’t really make up their minds until Tuesday, but they’ll be coming round to him.

  • bonnman

    That’s a tough ad.

  • elayman

    A ringing endorsement from a constituency that would really like jobs when they graduate! Young Republicans whose future is being stolen are apparently more rational than their older counterparts. Hope they realize that Huntsman has to come in no less than a strong 2nd or 3rd to be viable after New Hampshire and get out to vote !

  • trelane

    Erick was one of the few who stood up and said, “Hey, you know Huntsman is actually a solid conservative.” The HotAir troglodytes were completely retarded about his candidacy though.

  • stumpy

    like answered about Newt and Freddie Mac. He was paid $1.6 million. There has to be a contract for services of that size. The contract should clearly say what Newt’s services would be. Also he had to have some paperwork or someone that reported on his activities. These documents should back up Newt or destroy his credibility. If there is no contract, reports or other info, something shady was going on.

  • JSobieski

    nt

  • http://travismonitor.blogspot.com Freedoms Truth

    you might say the same for Perry.

    Huntsman lost me with his gaffe dissing global warming skeptics. That was a clear McCain-like base-voter shin-kicking moment. …

    “I believe in evolution and trust scientists on global warming. Call me crazy.??Huntsman

    Might as well do an Al gore / sit on the couch spot.
    Totally self-inflicted wounds.

  • http://www.timothy-bladel.com/ center77

    and I love it.

  • jakeofalltrades

    Yeah hah hah!

  • septembergurl

    Huntsman skipping Iowa.

    Because of his opposition to ethanol subsidies he was not going to do well there. did it help Perry to spend $5 million dollars there to come in fifth? And gingrich has not recovered from the beatdown administered there by Romney. There’s such a thing as negative momentum. frankly I think Santorum would have been wise to avoid NH except for a token appearance as Paul and Perry are doing, for the debates. Coming in fourth or fifth is going to slow his momentum out of NH.

  • JSobieski

    What I really should have said was “campaign strategy”

    Huntsman has the worst stategy of all time. They should teach in campaign hack school as what not to do

  • tea4me

    Seems we’ve devolved into nothing but Romney and Huntsman shrills in here?

  • Adjoran

    called a DVR. You record stuff and watch it when you have the time. It’s all the rage – you should try it.

  • usedtobelib

    debate performances, but it seems that Huntman’s very persona turns off people. When your way of talking and moving bugs people, you don’t stand a chance.

  • Adjoran

    so he didn’t have to register as a lobbyist, but that’s what he did.

    They weren’t paying $25K per month for years, then rehiring him years later, if he wasn’t bringing some results. Why would they pay that for history lessons from a guy who couldn’t win tenure at Georgia Western College – not exactly the “Appalachian Ivy League” there?

  • Adjoran

    Perry was really the only hope, but the stars were against him. With a late start, he needed to do serious homework, but back surgery came first and he didn’t do that or debate prep.

    Then also, the hype before he came in was so ridiculous Reagan couldn’t have lived up to it. If he had entered normally, without the big fanfare and buildup of expectations, he would have started around 10-15% and built from there. Debate gaffes would not have been magnified as they were.

    But again, the saddest words are “what might have been,” aren’t they?

  • Adjoran

    The Huntsman supporters are a new feature. Nobody knows what to do with a candidate who speaks Chinese. We just sort of look at them and gawk a bit.

    For Huntsman, the problem appealing to Republicans is once they read his fawning notes to Obama and Bill Clinton, they want to wash their brains out.

    Check them out: http://tinyurl.com/1ii

  • jakeofalltrades

  • http://www.doctor-bob.biz rsklaroff

    …until you typed the third ‘graph.

    If, indeed, Huntsman is history within four days, the race will be narrowing to Mitt/The Newt/Perry/Santorum [+/-] Paul.

    Those who are rooting for Perry will draw comfort from the fact that his message will continue to contrast with that of the other three major contenders…each of whom could be expected to drop in the polls.

    If, indeed, The Newt is The Spoiler, he will remain to attack Mitt…as Santorum’s vetting yields recognition that he isn’t a Fiscal Conservative; granted, these are projections that favor Perry, but they aren’t unreasonable.

    Hope springs eternal….

  • http://www.doctor-bob.biz rsklaroff

    really?

  • http://www.doctor-bob.biz rsklaroff

    …for huntsman-supporters [goodgovernance, elayman, flgal208, septembergurl, dpmapper, katem].

    Is he ‘history’ if he remains in single-digits in NH?

  • http://redmerrimack.blogspot.com/ charliebravoNH

    that Huntsman didn’t receive any endorsements from NH papers? I never said that. I was diminishing the importance of the Boston Globe endorsement because of its role in the MA Democrat political machine.

  • renl57

    I didn’t hear Huntsman attacking Obama’s record.

    I heard Huntsman attacking Romney’s record. I heard Huntsman attacking other Republicans.

    I can’t remember one sound bite from Huntsman in which he took down Obama.

  • bobguzzardi

    this is terrific and thanks for your support. Rick Perry is BOLD; the others “more of the same”, conventional, unimaginative.

  • bobguzzardi

    Doesn’t an endorsement from conventional, and unimaginative, group-thinking, Establishment media tell us a lot about the candidate, Huntsman?

    In a 2010 KTRK interview during his gubernatorial race, Perry called the shooting range ?my golf.?
    http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2012/01/rick-perry-unwinds-before-new-hampshire-debate-at-texas-shooting-range

    America needs a BOLD change in course or we will hit the fiscal and moral iceberg ahead. Rick Perry governed Texas, and the Texas Model works. Rick Perry personifies the Constitutional Model, Limited Government and Economic Freedom, and a nation of free individuals with unalienable rights, where every life is a life worth living.

    Rick Perry is The Guy.

  • bobguzzardi

    The best part of Iowa experience where dr. bob and I spoke for Rick Perry to Iowa Republican Caucus Voters is meeting Rick and Anita Perry and their enthusiastic, highly competent and committed team.

    Rick and Anita Perry are Americans in the Exceptional Constitutional American tradition of Limited Government and Unalienable Individuals where every life is a life worth living.

  • elayman

    I honestly don’t recall specifics of the first debates except that I would be surprised if the president wasn’t mentioned even in passing as the campaign fund raising themes emphasized above all else Obama’s failure on the economy. Perhaps being marginalized by the media forced a strategy to distinguish himself from Romney and Perry from the outset and not waste time criticizing the president for empty rhetorical effect.

    What is important is that Jon has the laser-like focused mindset of a master problem solver – organized, methodical, analytical and practical in a way that looks enormously appealing as we watch the Obama administration and the incumbent Congress run out of ideas on even basic issues. I listen to him and hear dead on solutions that our country so desperately craves but I suppose it is true those types can be fantastic at governing and don?t always come off as the most likeable or relaxed of candidates.

    Sadly, Huntsman is always given so little time in these media ‘debates’ that he is continually in a position of having to reiterate the basics of his campaign sandwiched between attack sound bites and buzzers which would drive any candidate to buzzwords or rehearsed lines. It’s a shame because he has has many more sensible solutions that people need to hear and clearly feels more comfortable building a relationship of trust with the audience by walking through the points in a more sustained format. All this campaign needs now is a good spark.

  • http://travismonitor.blogspot.com Freedoms Truth

    I agree. His strategy was flawed too.

    I understand a candidate dismissive of the socon wing wanting to skip Iowa entirely, but it didnt work for even a high-profile well-funded candidate like Rudy and it wont work for a lesser-known guy like Huntsman.

    You can survive coming in 4th in Iowa. McCain proved that. You cant survive getting 1% there.

    It’s been bizarre watching MSM folks talk about him like he has a chance.

  • http://travismonitor.blogspot.com Freedoms Truth

    “What is important is that Jon has the laser-like focused mindset of a master problem solver ? organized, methodical, analytical and practical in a way that looks enormously appealing ”

    The ‘problem solver’ – Cain articulated that mindset well in debates. It was and is very appealling. Cain got me when he rolled through a 4-point immigration solution in under 60 seconds. Newt likewise can reel off his solutions oriented agenda in 60 seconds.

    Huntsman displayed little of that. While cain had 9-9-9, Huntsman cracked jokes ABOUT PIZZA. After seeing Huntsman in half a dozen debates I have no idea if what you say is true, because he didnt show it.

    Instead, Huntsman came off flippant, elitist and in some cases non-conservative.

    Again, ‘a campaign ill-served by its candidate’.

  • porkandcheese

    If the Boston Globe points out that Huntsman is sane and electable, more power to them. Much of Romney’s “appeal” is name recognition.

  • JSobieski

    Why did Rudy skip NH? Makes no sense to me—he seemed like a great NH candidate.

  • thirstyboots

    Here’s Erick in his own words and habitual over-emotional tone:

    John Huntman?s disloyalty to the President of the United States, regardless of the President or to which party the President belongs, should not be rewarded by any patriot of this country.

    No, it is not his terrible record. It is not his lefty record on the environment. Nor is it Huntsman?s willingness to stand against 70% of Utah?s voters as Governor and come out for civil unions without anyone asking him. Nor is it his buddy-buddiness with Ahnuld and their global warming pact.

    The reason I will never, ever support Jon Huntman is simple: While serving as the United States Ambassador to China, our greatest strategic adversary, Jon Huntsman began plotting to run against the President of the United States. This calls into question his loyalty not just to the President of the United States, but also his loyalty to his country over his own naked ambition.

    From a level of patriotism and pride in my country, regardless of politics and Presidents, I cannot tolerate a man serving as our ambassador to our chief strategic adversary in the world plotting, while in that capacity, to run against the President of the United States. It is unseemly and disgusting.

    http://www.redstate.com/erick/2011/05/09/why-i-will-not-support-jon-huntsman/

    Obviously, had Huntsman picked a campaign manager not named John Weaver, things may have been different.

  • thirstyboots

    McCain campaigned in Iowa as strongly as Huntsman or Giuliani. He was just more well liked.

    Huntsman’s problem wasn’t the 1% in Iowa. It was that he was never competitive with Romney in New Hampshire.

  • elayman

    I think Jon would get out with a 4th place or lower finish, but if these results are accurate and the investment shows signs of starting to take root, he has the viability to go at least one more round.

    Not having had the spark to get ballot access in multiple states later in the race, now that becomes a more paramount concern with a late breaking viable candidacy….can he get the numbers to work in terms of delegates needed?

  • dpmapper

    Do you really think you can’t be personally nice to someone without agreeing with them on the issues?

    And you do realize that the Obama administration leaked those letters, right?

  • elayman

    Great swaths of the country still don’t have the foggiest idea that he even exists. It’s the difference between a 6 month campaign and either running for a 2nd or 3rd time or being on the national stage in some capacity for decades as with the other candidates.

  • thirstyboots

    He has the same name recognition that, say, Santorum had till he won in Iowa.

    People don’t really know Huntsman because he was never able to differentiate himself from the field. I’d say the large majority of the primary voters saw him as the guy who tried to run as the democrats best friend because that was the initial tone of his campaign.

    Anyway, pretty much every other guy, even a complete rookie like Cain, managed to gather national attention and the opportunity to make his case at some point. The fact that Huntsman, a two terms governor and former ambassador, failed to do it, is all his fault.

  • joshdunn

    But his exit will help Romney more than any other candidate.

  • joshdunn

    But the candidate himself has made so many mistakes that he finished in fifth place. In New Hampshire and South Carolina, he is still polling behind RP. As long as Rick stays in the race, Romney has a clear path to the presidency.

  • elayman

    That was the tone of conservative commentators who couldn’t see beyond the Tea Party candidates and failed to do due diligence on his real record. Huntsman also comes with a diplomatic bearing that makes him less stand out less at the debates than the big personalities of Cain and Santorum .They won’t be the nominees either. And the numbers are real (I believe from a Gallup survey ?) although a bit dated at this point.

  • avagreen

    I would suggest that we hie thee to make some supportive posts there. The libs will drown out this article with their usual lies, smears, and insults…..
    Here is the original:
    http://www.texastribune.org/texas-politics/2012-presidential-election/rick-perry-quitting-no-option/

  • Common_Cents

    I guess he’s confident in his campaign and debates this weekend, taking a vacation in TX shooting some guns.

    “Ready, aim fire. That?s apparently Texas Gov. Rick Perry?s idea of relaxation before returning to the campaign trail this weekend.

    Ahead of Saturday night?s ABC News-Yahoo-WMUR debate in New Hampshire Perry took a few moments to himself at an Austin-area shooting range.

    ?Just relaxing a bit @ Red?s Range before we leave for New Hampshire!? @governorperry tweeted Friday along with a photo of himself wearing a green sweatshirt and a baseball cap with a firearm in hand.”

    I think Perry ought to be preparing for the 2 debates rather than hanging out at the gun range.

    Is this the Fred Thompson campaign?

    He’s lucky to be in the NH debate w/ polling at what, 1%?

  • Scope

    and live and breathe knowing that you can slam Gov. Perry, and his supporters yet again for another 24 hrs. Your hit pieces are old, tired, and boring. Don’t you have any other life other than watching for every comment in support of Perry on RS that you can go and slam? It seems that that is the only way you get your jollies on, or, as others have said in the past, do you post one handed while hiding out in mom’s basement? I personally find you to be the most borish lot of Perry haters, but hey, many get their jollies on in different ways. There really is life other than Perry hating. You ought to try it.

  • Common_Cents

    You are setting a wonderful example. You attack anyone personally that criticizes your the man you worship. You even attacked Erick. That was a hoot. This isn’t high school teen spirit, or a justin bieber fan site. It’s big leagues. If you can’t take the heat, then you should take a break too, like Perry. Perhaps hit a local gun range.

    I focus on Perry, the issues, and electability, you know, to beat Obama. I don’t go out of my way to personally go after any supporters like you do.

    Perry is awesome and wish I could appoint him President, but I can’t. He doesnt have a chance in getting elected, he is too radical right(in a good way) at this time. I wish we had 49 other governors like him. However, him staying in the race, after quitting on caucus night, just helps romney at this point. We need rapid consolidation of conservatives to someone who can actually beat romney, then Obama, Gingrich. Time is running short. If Romney wins NH, does well in SC and FL, he will snuff out any momentum and money for any challenger.

    You might want to take some time off. The poor Perry campaign is obviously getting to you and you are lashing out at others.

  • jakeofalltrades