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Tuesday night’s story was one of effective campaigning, not personality

In which I eat crow

There is a rush tonight to try to identify the true interpretation of the Republican electoral results. Many of them will be shared on the Internet, but this one is mine.

This wasn’t the first close race. Mitt Romney has won them previously. What’s different about tonight is that Rick Santorum pulled it off this time, This defied expectations, and went counter to everything I thought I knew about Team Santorum.

I conclude that the story of Tuesday night was not one of personality or of message. Instead, what happened was that the Santorum campaign proved that it has changed, and unlike before is becoming effective at turning out more voters than Team Romney, and as a result is capable of winning statewide primary elections.

This is a genuine surprise to me. I’ve been dismissive of the Santorum campaign because it went two months without winning a single primary. That’s old news though. See this chart I’ve made, based on Real Clear Politics’s handy chart of the state contests and their delegate results:

Santorum and Romney results

This is a total reversal. For the first two months of this campaign, again, Mitt Romney won all but one primary, and Santorum stayed alive by winning caucuses where he could. Now though, Santorum has turned it around. He won primaries on Super Tuesday, a day that was supposed to favor a strong national campaign, and since picked up more states after that.

It’s also notable how he’s won some of these states. In February, Mitt Romney had a habit of coming from behind to steal close ones. Ohio and Michigan were big wins of his that he took by beating the polls for bigger victories than expected. But look what happened on Tuesday: Not that. Instead, Rick Santorum beat the polls in tight three way races, and came out ahead. The polls had projected a Romney/Gingrich split of Mississippi and Alabama, not at all a Santorum sweep. That’s a change, and a very good sign for Team Santorum.

All of a sudden, in the last two weeks, Rick Santorum has stopped being a candidate that had to win low-turnout, non-binding caucuses in order to remain at all in contention. Instead, he’s duking it out in real, honest primaries, which operate much more like a general election than a caucus does. In the real, standard elections, he’s standing up to the mighty Mitt Romney, and he’s winning.

If this isn’t a fluke, and it seems unlikely given the chart above, then Rick Santorum is proving to be a lot more electable than he seemed. His delegate deficit is substantial, and it remains to be seen how much of a dent in that gap tonight’s results will make. But winning statewide at the ballot box is a path to victory that nobody can deny.

Final note: As I write this, results have not come in from the caucuses in Hawaii and American Samoa, and so they are not included in the chart or the analysis. Should Romney win both, though, then the story does not change.

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COMMENTS

  • http://pocketchangeproductions.net/ anotherindyfilmguy

    Santorum comes across as the average guy willing to try and fix the problem and be on our side* etc.

    To me, and I understand opinions vary, Romney comes across as a privileged elitist likely to sell us out for convenience once he gets what he wants.

    It’s not a complicated thing.

    *by our side I mean on the side of the US to start with, versus the O, and for the non-insiders in the case of Romney. Sort of a double whammy really.

  • kipling

    Santorum seems to be defying the odds and building a national campaign on the fly. He has no money and little organization but Mitt Romney still cannot put him away. Romney spent five times what both Santorum and Gingrich spent in Alabama and Mississippi. In the end he could not buy his way to victory.

    The Establishment must be deeply concerned after tonight. Mitt appears to be a very weak frontrunner.

  • retrocon87

    The story tonight was Newt losing, not Romney. No one is the least bit surprised that Romney couldn’t win in the deep south… At this point the question is whether or not it’s true that there were “strings attached to Adelson’s $20m” and that whether or not since Adelson has said that “he could support Romney but that he hates Santorum” that Newt will stay in at this point just to kill Santorum… in terms of strategy things are all about Newt right now.

  • http://www.hakubi.us/ Neil Stevens

    The guy who’s won two states, total, is not a story at all.

  • retrocon87

    As long as Newt stays in and keeps splitting the anti-Romney vote, like it or not he’s still part of the story.

  • mikelindell2

    AL and MS are very conservative states and Santorum, aided by Fox News, has somehow seized the “true conservative” label even though he has a lower ACU rating than Newt and has a dismal fiscal record. Still trying to figure out why Newt doesn’t expose Santorum, maybe they have a deal in the works. Wouldn’t be hard to shatter the perception of Rick as being conservative though-Union-backing, big spending Republican who has a tax plan that calls for gov’t to pick winners and losers.

  • rednation

    Santorum is a heavily underrated politician.

    He has the ability to psychologically connect with voters and if he had the money and backing Romney had, this race would be over already and Santorum would be the nominee.

    This is contrast election cycle.

    In such, choosing the nominee who provided the best contrast to Obama in the fall is the way to go. Indies and mods do not go by a check list in cycles like this, especially. Late deciders, as well, have the propensity to choose by gut, by instinct, a person who they are comfortable with, who “best represents people like me” which Santorum is tapping into even in the primaries.

    It’s suicide to go with Romney. He’s Alf Landon and John Kerry combined, with a touch of Wendel Willkie.

    He comes across as insincere, his record and reputation suggest he’s a lite Obama. When confronted with that, voters will choose Obama. Polls now mean nothing. In such situations, the odds are the best that can be expected for an incumbent with such terrible re-elect numbers like Obama has.

    Romney’s money means little in the fall. His wooden, plastic ken doll personality is suicide for a general.

    Even his own side is voting against Santorum and not for Romney because they buy the establishment and media and Rove line that Santorum cannot win in a general. Not because they WANT Romney.

    It makes no sense to vote for Romney who will likely use the same team that gave us the Souter nomination to pick more of them if he gets a chance even if he barely beats Obama.

    The idea that Santorum cannot win is idiocy. He actually matches up best with Obama, in a REAL contest in many ways.

    The trouble is not with Santorum, It’s with “settle out of fear” voters who buy into the electability meme myth.

    The new line of B.S, is that Santorum will get killed with women, and somehow Romney will not. He won women tonight…

  • http://www.hakubi.us/ Neil Stevens

    Some guy who’s a distant third wins nothing… and you claim he’s The Story, over the delegate leader and the guy who won both primaries?

    Give it up.

  • http://www.hakubi.us/ Neil Stevens

    Don’t conflate primary and general election arguments.

  • rednation

    If Newt keeps drawing votes from Rick, we get Romney.

    Newt has no realistic chance. He consistently polls high in negatives and cannot beat that in a general due to his personality.

    Elections are personality contests. We have ONE person who can potentially win on personality.

    His name is Rick Santorum.

    Wake up.

  • JSobieski

    None of the candidates is addressing the BIG issue that needs to be addressed ASAP.

    Romney is purposely addressing as few issues as possible.

    This entire campaign has been as devoid of issues as possible.

    Could any of our candidates identify three meaningful programs that they would cut?

    Could any of our candidates make a credible case for even $100B in “cuts” in the 2014 budget?

    We are getting so caught up in tactics and reality TV that we miss the fact the country is going down the toilet, and nobody is building a mandate for any kind of solution.

    What is the GOP going to do if someone like a Gov. Johnson campaigns on a budget that includes a $1T in cuts?

    Does anyone think the Dems wouldn’t find a way to help make that happen?

  • Melody Warbington (rwm52)

    were a lot of hard-working volunteers for Santorum making calls and knocking on doors. He drew large crowds and had signs out everywhere.

    I signed up Saturday night to put signs up for Newt at and around my precinct. When I went to the forum last night, I asked one of the staffers if they had the signs because I hadn’t gotten a call yet. Apparently, they were expecting a delivery that didn’t make it. I have on idea how much difference signage makes, but perhaps this was a “sign” that Santorum’s campaign here in AL was better prepared.

  • http://www.hakubi.us/ Neil Stevens

    I came up with this just by analyzing the numbers and the results.

    It’s good to hear confirmation like that.

  • SoFiMil

    I need some fairly compelling data to go with your (reasonable) assumption? I want to get this wrong, and turn a bad situation into a disastrous one.

  • kipling

    I thought he was banking on these two states to keep him alive.

    I don’t really expect you to answer. It is more a rhetorical question. I just find his lack of preparedness shocking given his statements.

  • SoFiMil

    I don’t want to get this wrong.

  • SoFiMil

    Don’t want to have to vote for Santorum, Newt, or Romney, but will if I have to.

  • rednation

    Fact is, a good GOP nominee IS supposed to run UP the totals in small rural areas in places like OH, to beat the effect of a liberal winning in Cleveland.

    That’s how WE win. Just like they do not win by trying to steal votes in small counties but by running it up 70%-14% in Cleveland. Then, they hope to beat all the small ones together.

    The myth is in arguing that a moderate, like Romney, will “hold down Obama in the big cities, drawing a few critical votes, since the Republican will win whoever he is in Nov, in the small ones.”

    Wrong!!!

    Romney will NOT get hard conservatives in the fall, even though he WILL win all those small counties, the turnout and intensitty and bodies raw in those counties in aggregate will be lower, and OFFSET any small nick into the pop centers Romey as opposed to Santorum would get.

    Fact is, Obama will KILL either of these men in Cleveland when the battle for OH is fought. We need a common man person who will fight for blue collar votes and not be killed by the class warfare arguments, which Romney is poster child for.

    He is not likable. Combine that with history, the fact that anyone with a brain can see he’s John Kerry with an R next to his name, and it’s not hard to see where this is going.

    Running it up in the small counties, only possible for Santy, is the only way we win OH. And it’s NOT DESIRABLE to do the other strategy because any Repub nominee who does appreciably nick into O’s numbers in the big pop centers is too liberal to be of any value for us, anyway.

    On CNN now, all the talk is how Romney wins in the big cities, ‘burbs, etc. So, he will win a place like IL. News flash: Obama will kill any Repub in IL.

    He only loses when ordinary folks and indies who are able to vote for any degree of the political spectrum are in play.

    They are only in play with Santorum.

  • annas

    Santorum is the nominee, we lose the general election! Period.

  • retrocon87

    In a 3-person race, the guy who generally comes in third who is taking away votes from the guy who generally comes in second does usually matter if you happen to care about what happens to the guy who usually comes in first… I know the “anybody but Romney” people seem to be getting a little desperate here to the extent that they seem to be losing their “sense of logic” a little (and personally I don’t even particularly care anymore and I’m following this essentially just for the sport of it at this point until someone finally wins this crazy mess to go up against O’Marxist), but yes, Newt does still matter as long as he’s in the race…..

  • texastaxpayer

    But it is time for Newt to get out and back Rick. This seems to be our only opportunity to ensure our election isn’t between the guy who invented American socialized medicine and Obama. At the end of the day I would walk over broken glass lit on fire barefoot to avoid the Romney Obama choice. I personally like Gingrich best of the remaining candidates however like Perry for whatever reason he isn’t getting the job done. Time to face facts, swallow the pride and do the right thing.

    BTW… Ron Paul… DROP OUT… This guy is a joke and it’s long past time for him to go. As I am already asking people to leave the race thought I would point out what is absolutely obvious to everyone but him apparently.
    P.S If you agree to leave Texas Ron I am pretty sure I can get enough donations to buy you a new home. New Hampshire perhaps????

  • SoFiMil

    He learned from his mistakes last week.

    Office pool question: What friend and profession will Romney invoke next?

  • JSobieski

    nt

  • http://pocketchangeproductions.net/ anotherindyfilmguy

    If Gingrich continues to pull overlapping voters from Santorum then he’s pretty much either handing the election over to Romney or maybe, possibly, forcing a brokered convention.

    The question is will Newt finally drop out or will he basically keep splitting away delegates from Santorum and force one of the two above options?

  • aesthete

    People accuse me of being cynical… but if anything, I consistently low-ball the extent to which our political “leadership” fails us or operates in bad faith.

    Qs: Does anyone know what Mitt Romney’s exact views on Afghanistan withdrawal are, and what residual force structure he thinks should be in place after withdrawal? What he plans to do about Iran? What about for the candidates who have expressed a desire to go to war with Iran: have they justified themselves, or explained what they will do differently from Iraq, or what lessons we learned from a recent failure in foreign policy? What about the Arab Spring: which of our candidates has been clear about what, exactly, they feel Obama has mishandled vis a vis the Arab Spring, and does it correspond with their other views regarding the Middle East? Simply put: do we know what these candidates will do in a given situation, and why? I could do without the constant bombardment of cliches about America’s greatness and our military; I could do with some specifics.

    Even if you completely ignore the debt and the economy (the two largest issues confronting the US, and areas where conservative policy could be applied), there is little about these candidates that is specific or that instills confidence. We are getting blown off by fools who’s past behavior gives us no reason to trust them for asking very relevant questions about public policy. Conservatives at this point should be deeply mistrusting of politicians, and should submit them to scrutiny. I see followers in place of voters, and emotionally invested fanboys.

  • mikeymike143

    he will knock off romney and have plenty of money and resources when he becomes the republcian nominee.

  • mikeymike143

    its nice to see the anti war left getting rejected so soundly by the american people

  • Melody Warbington (rwm52)

    Newt drew large crowds, and the crowd I saw Saturday night was very diverse as well. It’s just that perhaps Santorum was better prepared.

    My sense of things is that everyone underestimated Santorum. Maybe Newt made a mistake on that score. Or maybe they just had a shipment of signs that got lost.

    I can tell you without a doubt that many of the voters I talked to don’t have a clue of the issues beyond what they hear in a speech. Standing in line at the forum the other night, I was talking to a guy who was a Santorum supporter. We compared notes about our reasons for supporting our candidates. I mentioned Rick’s union support in PA and his vote for Sarbanes Oxley. He actually said he had no idea what SO was. He left a Newt supporter.

  • winning2012

    As a Southern Baptist, I knew going in Romney would lose these states despite what the polls said. Believe me, I know the Mormon propaganda.

    When the exit polls show around 50% of voters said a candidate’s religion mattered in how they voted, that tells you all you need to know. It’s not about public policy, it’s about sending a message. It’s completely idiotic, we’re not electing a spiritual leader here.

    Fortunately, Newt and Santorum will split the South, nullifying the delegates. Romney still came out of tonight with more delegates than either thanks to Hawaii and Samoa.

  • texastaxpayer

    Hopefully this November we’ll see the rise of the hawks. This “we’ll write a strongly worded letter if you don’t stop killing our people” crowd we have now makes me sick…

  • jdaman

    support for Romney in most small towns and county’s in horribly low. In Ohio this time around, Romeny kept winning cities and losing most of the outlying towns and districts.
    In the general election, Obama and Romney will be trying to outspend each other to get the big cities and Obama will inevitably those because he will be able to outspend any Republican at least two to one. Santorum on the other hand is great at the up close and personal voting, winning over county’s and towns, that, and the grassroots are what will enable the Republicans to win in 2012.

  • kipling

    My general impression of Newt is that he relies heavily on his ability to connect with people and not so much on an organized ground game.

    You would know better on that account due to your experience on the ground. I am just going by general impressions and what I read.

    Thanks for your work on the ground.

  • SoFiMil

    I’ll take a candidate with an active belief in God and strong convictions, who’s active in his/her church whatever that faith may be.

    Sure glad we’re not like France where only (I’m guessing) 2-3% likely say religion matters.

  • kipling

    I seriously question your viability as a candidate.

  • SoFiMil

    Romney and his supporters gave to blame Romney himself for this, and not any supposed religious differences. Speaking in terms of political ideology, there is a significant difference between Santorum/Gingrich and Romney. That is what accounts for Romney’s inability to wrap up the nomination.

  • septembergurl

    but come in second if only because of the money he is spending. This is a weak showing that reflects the continuing unease of the base with romney. He has not solved that problem, and won’t, till he does something dramatic.

    My suggestion is to renounce Romneycare and especially the mandate. He could also name his running mate, it would help if it were someone the base trusts. Hint: not christie. DeMint would be my choice. Jindal. Perry.

  • texastaxpayer

    Their large Mormon populations choosing religion as the major qualifier / disqualifier for candidate selection? Do you fain the same outrage for them?

    I am personally sick of the bigotry attacks by Rombots. Not everybody loves your boy and for most of us it has more to do with his failures as a leader than the crazy crap he believes.

  • SoFiMil

    I’m glad he doesn’t waffle on religion. Why can’t he say/decide what he believes as to a political ideology. This is why I can’t stand Romney. I disagree with Santorum and Gingrich in several policy prescriptions. But I’ll take someone who will tell me what they believe.

    Besides Bush 43 being a man of honor and integrity, this is why I love and support Dubya – even when I strongly disagree with him.

  • stumpy

    That basically changed tonight. Newt is done. That is significant.

    Second, while understanding that more Newt voters will go to Rick than Mitt, Newt leaving doesn’t necessarily hurt Rick and help Mitt. Hereis why. In keeping the vote split and neither candidate from getting 50%, the delegates split three ways. This keeps Mitt from getting to 1,144. This should be Rick’s goal at the moment. Once we get to winner-take-all, Newt will be in the single digits and be basically irrelevant except for attacks against Mitt. Also, with a three-man race, Mitt has to keep from driving his negatives too low. Once it is down to two, Mitt will viciously attack Rick, making the ads so far look tame. At that point Mitt only has to make voters dislike Rick more than him. Now they have to sell themselves.

  • kipling

    Romney is an opportunist who converted to conservatism when he decided to run for the Presidency. Obama will use Romney’s own words to attack him.

  • SoFiMil

    on each leg of the conservative stool.

    -Social issues
    -Fiscal issues
    -Defense issues

  • WillWong

    when they got behind Gov Huckabee. They came tantalisingly close. They got a first taste of what grassroot campaigning can do. Many were hoping Gov Huckabee would run again. It took them a while to figure out who to support this time and eventually they coalesced around Santorum. I am sure the endorsement of the group of 150 Evangelical leaders helped as well. Gov Huckabee did not endorse anyone and I think in the absence of any direction from him, his supporters eventually went for the strongest of the so-cons.

    I was part of a Huckabee meetup group back in 2008. I tried soliciting support for Newt from those groups but the response was lukewarm at best.

    So I think your arguement that Santorum’s triumph was due to his organization could very well be true. Santorum’s reliance on retail politics can only work with strong grassroot support.

  • SoFiMil

    .

  • SoFiMil

    Romney’s not pro-choice. He’s pro-Romney.

  • http://www.examiner.com/x-1597-Charlotte-Law--Politics-Examiner Mike gamecock DeVine

    Evangelicals want the most conservative candidate and Mitt is third most

  • hisgirlfriday

    The AP says that the entire American Samoa caucus consisted of “about 70 people” and Mitt Romney is taking all 9 delegates there. Now 3 of those are “super” delegates, but still…

    http://www.boston.com/news/politics/articles/2012/03/14/romney_wins_in_american_samoa/

    If you break it down for American Samoa that’s 1 delegate for every 11.67 people casting a vote.

    Pretty crazy when the breakdown from Alabama tonight is about 1 delegate for every 13,000 people casting a vote.

    And the breakdown from Mississippi is about 1 delegate for every 7,500 people casting a vote.

    This whole process just seems so bizarre to me.

  • SoFiMil

    of bribing National Right to Life for their endorsement. I don’t think he or his campaign have changed one bit. They’ll take down their opponent in dishonest ways, then play the victim and accuse others of negative campaigning.

  • septembergurl

    I read on RCP I think — exit polling of why people in AL an MS voted as they did.

    Romney won those whose main goal was to beat Obama

    Gingrich won those whose priority was the right experience.

    Santorum won most conservative and has integrity.

    Now why can’t we get these in one person?

  • SoFiMil

    his/her identity/geo-location, and motives.

  • texastaxpayer

    The man has been running for president for six years and I have no clue. His positions all come with a disclaimer “This statement is subject to change without notification or explanation.” and a twenty four hour warranty *subject to change should polling indicate this position is no longer popular*. His supporters must all wonder daily if they are pro-life or pro-choice, pro-tax or pro-spending cuts, pro-second amendment or pro-gun control. Are we liberal or conservative today? Must be very confusing….

  • SoFiMil

  • texastaxpayer

    Seems there are a lot of question marks concerning the rules and processes this primary season. It’s also puzzling that all the question marks seem to end up as benefiting Mitt Romney………

  • SoFiMil

    While he shouldn’t have said it regardless, I do wonder if the owner of the Dolphins, Jets, and NASCAR team owners have ever even met Romney, mich less consider him a “friend.”

  • Viet71

    Continue to believe Romney will be the nominee, because he’s who the Republican power structure (guys like GHWB) want.

    Redstate will continue, however, to be a great rebel outpost.

  • Melody Warbington (rwm52)

    at the number of uninformed voters, regardless of which candidate they support. The number of inconsistencies in the candidate elected in AL tonight is astounding.

    As the Devine GC says, more later.

  • mistel

    One need only look at the shenanigans Romney’s backers pulled off in the primaries for Iowa, Michigan, and Virginia. Those are 3 public misdeeds, so there’s no telling what was done in the other primaries that we don’t know about. He apparently sanctioned the lack of integrity, as he never spoke out against it.

  • Melody Warbington (rwm52)

    in Santorum’s speech here in Birmingham last night, when he spoke about religious freedom, he included people of all faiths or no faith. If we Alabamians who didn’t vote for Romney are so biased, you’d think we’d be looking to find someone just like us.

    Apparently Romney supporters have gotten the memo from Romney that the best way to build him up is to tear down the other candidates and the voters who didn’t hand him their votes. Count me among those. I voted for Newt.

  • lynnotting

    PPP surveyed 656 likely Republican voters in Mississippi and 600 likely Republican
    primary voters in Alabama on March 10th and 11th. The margin of error for the
    Mississippi poll is +/-3.8% and for the Alabama poll it?s +/-4.0%.

    Alabama

    Q11 If the Republican candidates were just Ron
    Paul, Mitt Romney, and Rick Santorum, who
    would you vote for?
    Ron Paul ??????????????????? 12%
    Mitt Romney?????????????????. 40%
    Rick Santorum???????????????? 43%
    Not sure ???????????????????. 6%

    I couldn?t find the Mississippi results. Obviously, these polls were totally backwards, but it makes sense because half of Newt?s votes would be fiscal conservatives?..just guessing at that part, but it sounds about right.

  • garfieldjl

    Gingrich can appeal to both fiscal conservatives (and I don’t have a clue why they would support mittens in the first place), and social conservatives.

    The Santorum vote if he were to drop out, would overwhelmingly go to Gingrich.

    Gingrich’s supporters could split more down the middle, plus Romney would have a single target.

    What is nice though, is that both Santorum and Gingrich beat Romney.

    If the two of them would agree to be on the same ticket and determine at a later date whom is on top, it would be a complete blowout. Between Santorum and Gingrich they have effectively pulled double the delegates that Romney received.

  • garfieldjl

    Obama is a lot better liar than Mitt Romney. The media will fall all over themselves in a debate.

    As long as Newt stays in this I’m supporting him, I have no enthusiasm for Santorum (this could change depending on who his VP pick would be, but he would be at a disadvantage).

    On a seperate note, it wouldn’t surprise me if Newt’s signs will later be found in a trash bin courtesy of a rival campaign. If Santorum’s I doubt he authorized it, if it was Romney I think would have happily done it himself.

    My problem with Santorum isn’t on his charecter he has his faults, but I respect the man is honest which is a rarety in politics. My concern is that he doesn’t have the experience to be President (he will be in over his head), I further don’t think he can beat Obama’s smear machine.

    The reason Gingrich has been having trouble is that the conservative vote is split and everyone is in panic mode that we have to get Obama out of office.

    Gingrich, Santorum, and Paul all probably have a better than 50% chance of beating Obama.

    Romney is more likely to get beat.

    People keep worrying about beating Romney, polls favor Santorum, so they bail on Newt despite their better judgement.

    I’m just glad there were enough conservatives that they still clobbered Romney.

    I disagree that either one should get out until maybe the winner take all states.

    This proportional delegate stuff means that the two can still make sure that they have the advantage between them. However, I would say Santorum is the one that needs to bow out when the understanding that no matter what he is on the ticket. Santorum’s supporters will break for Gingrich overwhelmingly, then have the two of them combine delegates and figure out who is on top.

  • garfieldjl

    Proportional Delegates remember, the issue will be when we have the winner take all states.

    Until they are in play, both of them can stay in.

    I would argue that it would be easier for Newt to beat Romney than Santorum.

    Santorum supporters overwhelmingly choose Newt as their 2nd pick.

    Newt takes votes from both sides.

    I think both Newt and Santorum should be on the ticket at this point. Best chance Santorum has is for Newt to gobble up enough delegates that Romney can’t hit the magic number.

    As long as proportional delegates continues, neither one has to get out.

  • bk

    1. Santorum broke Mittmentum and racked up a pair of wins. Huge!
    2. Gingrich was bested by a Yankee in two southern states, so he is officially toast. G’bye!
    3. Despite those two splitting conservative votes, Romney only managed to finish third in both states, proving beyond any doubt that he’s the favorite of the establishment GOP but not of the rank and file GOP.

  • garfieldjl

    I don’t think Santorum would do something like that, but it wouldn’t surprise me if Romney would, given what happened in Iowa, Virginia, and Maine.

    The fact that the totals between Gingrich and Santorum are so close, means this could have been thrown.

  • SoFiMil

    Otherwise, Santorum would have received at least 60% of the vote.

  • jeffreywturner

    Just think of how striking this is.

    Only slightly more than a generation ago, John F. Kennedy had to try to convince Evangelical Christians that he wasn’t “too Catholic” in order to get their votes. Now, much of Rick Santorum’s appeal to Evangelical Christians is the devoutness of his Catholicism.

    Whether you think this is a good or a bad thing, or whether you support Santorum or not, this is an incredible turnaround over such a short period.

  • WillWong

    Interesting observation as well!

  • edintexas

    Uninformed voters are the standard for the entire US these days. They spare little time to (pardon the cliche) get off the couch and bother to participate in the elections. Yes, it is frustrating.

  • Locked and Loaded

    Would any one of them pull their wagon into the rut he has created?

  • Juggernaut

    offered the VEEP ticket to Newt. That’s a winning team that would unite the party. Would be nice to see Newt debate Joe Biden…….Sarah Palin smoked him in 2 debates. Newt would destroy him. With the 2 of them, gov spending and costs would drop and they’d be less likely to cave to dem pressure. Romney, yes he would sell us out.

    http://www.newsmax.com/Headline/santorum-gingrich-runningmate-alabama/2012/03/08/id/431942

  • RonsBoy

    As a former Perry supporter (pre-debates) and Gringrich supporter (post-SC debate), I’m now firmly in the Romney camp.. After Florida I became a Romney supporter. He is an acceptable conservative and electable. It is time for conservatives to stop throwing a hissy. The argument that the best Republican Nominee will be produced by the back door dealings of a brokered convention. Mark me down as one conservative that wants to win.

    Gringrich and Santorum (neither capable of running a national campaign) tag teaming Romney to deny him delegates so we can have a broker convention.

    That’s the only thing that is happening now.

    Delegate Count Before Tuesday:

    1144 Delegates Need to clinch Republican Nomination
    Romney Santorum Gingrich Paul
    Delegates Won 439 197 113 62
    RNC Delgates (unpledged) 16 2 4 2
    Current Delegate Count 455 199 17 64
    Delegates Needed for Nomination 689 945 1027 1080
    % of Delegates Needed for Nomination 48.93% 67.12% 72.94% 76.70%

    Delegate Count After Tuesday
    1144 Delegates Need to clinch Republican Nomination
    Romney Santorum Gingrich Paul
    Delegates Won 479 232 138 62
    RNC Delgates (unpledged) 16 2 4 2
    Current Delegate Count 495 234 142 64
    Delegates Needed for Nomination 649 910 1002 1080
    % of Delegates Needed for Nomination 50.35% 70.60% 77.73% 83.79%

    All that happened last night is the odds of a brokered convention went up 3%. As a former Gringrich supporter, I can honestly say Santorum seems to me that his campaign shrinks the conservative tent. The Gringrich and Santorum strategy of making this a brokered convention where one of them rises as the nominee is a loser for the general.

    I just don’t get why Romney the conservative alternative to McCain in 2008 is not acceptable in 2012.

  • RonsBoy

    I think it is really funny that people actually think Santorum is an outsider.

    First, His plan to win the nomination is to take this to a brokered convention and have the RNC Delegates (The definition of insiders) pick him after the first ballot.

    If Mitt is the very weak frontrunner, what does that say about a candidate who is tag teaming him with Gringrich to take the nomination to a brokered convention.

    I say it makes him very very pitiful and shouldn’t be the Obama Alternative.
    As a former Gringrich supporter, I’m saying it time to close ranks around the front runner, Romney and start preparing for the general.

    I want to win against Obama, not deny Mitt a chance so an even weaker candidate can be our nominee.

  • RonsBoy

    I’m a southern and former Gringrich supporter who is now firmly in the Romney camp. Santorum maybe the social conservative darling but he is not mine. I like Ron Pual better than Santorum.

    It is time to close ranks around the front runner and start focusing on winning in November.

    A brokered convention will be a disaster for the General Election.

  • Scope

    In addition to Foster Freise (sp), it doesn’t hurt to have the support of an energy executive on your side. I’ve also read that there was another big pow wow in Texas over last weekend with the evangelicals to all pony up more money for Santorum. I would expect after last night’s wins, the donations would just keep increasing, including attracting more big dollar donors.

    Santorum is obviously being outspent on negative Romney ads, but it seems that Santorum is using his dollars for on the ground get out the vote efforts. That has been a successful play on Santorum’s part on where to put his money. While Romney buys and pays for negativity, he only gains more negativity.

    The energy executive, William Dore knows what side of his bread is buttered, as Obama just refuses to do anything to drive the price of gas down. As the price per gallon goes up, Obama’s polls go down. We haven’t seen the top price per gallon yet either. Summer driving season hasn’t even hit yet. And the idiot Chu now says, well maybe that european price per gallon really isn’t something we can achieve if we want to keep our jobs.

  • Scope

    to figure out that every one of his dollars is getting flushed down the john? I would think that after last night he would cut his losses and move on. I actually wonder if he even did in fact donate $10 million to the Gingrich campaign, as I’ve read that he is barely in the black right now.

    As a pundit just said, the only reason Gingrich should be looking to go to Tampa would be to look for a retirement property.

  • RonsBoy

    Why is a brokerd convention any good?

  • RonsBoy

    None of these guys are a Ronald Reagan.

    I want to WIN in November so I’m in the Romney camp now.

    Romney is an acceptable conservative and electable.

    Romney was the conservative choice in 2008 election cycle and is the only candidate truly running a national campaign.

    It’s time to close ranks around the front runner.

  • xymbaline

    Romney is not acceptable and is even worse than he was in 2008.

    The Conservative wing needs to stay in until the convention. Newt is preventing Romney from getting the nominations, and God Bless him for that.

    Let’s start concentrating on how to bully the Republican Left at the Convention and take the power away from them.

  • Spartan4Life

    Santorum could probably hold some of the Southern states plus Texas and lose the rest. He would lose big in Florida, Ohio, Wisconsin, MI, PA, Nevada, Colorado, NM, NH and probably all the other swing states.

    You Santorum supporters can kid youselves all you want that he is a viable national candidate but it isn’t going to make it so. He has neither the stature or the resources to take on Obama. Sorry.

  • xymbaline

    It is Romney who needs to drop out, and drop out Now!

    Then, Santorum and Gingrich can open a real national conversation, and let the best man win.

    Romney is a snake.

  • RonsBoy

    The thought of a broker convention seems like a loser to me. It is why I’m in the Romney camp now.

    Before primaries yesterday the candidates need to win this percentage of the remaining nominees to clinch the nomination.
    Romney 48.93%
    Santorum 67.12%
    Gingrich 72.94%
    Paul 76.70%

    After the primaries the candidates need to win this percentage of the remaining nominees to clinch the nomination.
    Romney 50.35%
    Santorum 70.60%
    Gingrich 77.73%
    Paul 83.79%

    The only thing that happened here is that now all the candidates have to get over half to avoid a broker convention.

    I’m a bigger supporter of WINNING in NOVEMBER then Gringrich supporter.
    It is time to close ranks behind ROMNEY and start the fight with OBAMA.

  • Spartan4Life

    While your comments may be correct this is not something to get excited about. Santorum may be elevated by running around and reminding us all about what we hate about Romney but he stands no chance of beating Obama in November.

    I blame all of this on the GOP. If they weren’t so ignorant of their Conservative base and so afraid of the unpopular Obama they would have recruited a decent candidate.

  • xymbaline

    This is just classic ‘concern trolling’. This guy was never a Gingrich supporter.

    He’s a romneybot, and like all Romney people, is afraid of an honest convention.

    Besides, actual Newt people can spell his last name correctly.

    It wasn’t just a finger mistake, either; this dummy can’t even spell Ron Paul.

  • Ann_W

    nt

  • xymbaline

    Period times two.

  • xymbaline

    Romney needs to drop out Now!

  • xymbaline

    :-0

  • texastaxpayer

    Bill Clinton is conservative enough to be the “alternative” to Mccain.

    Clear it up for you?

  • xymbaline

    He can’t win. His base is the same as Obama’s, and he can’t outspend Obama 10 to 1.

    Tell Romney to do us a favor and drop out now.

  • xymbaline

    He can’t win.

    Let Gingrich and Santorum debate and may the best man win.

  • JSobieski

    Healthcare and spending should be the two big issues in 2012.

    Do you “get” it now?

  • xymbaline

    can be easily located via Google.

    That’s where your comment belongs.

  • RonsBoy

    Isn’t it time to start thinking about November?

    I have and Mitt Romney is an acceptable conservative and electable.
    I want to win and Romney is at least running for President of the United States
    The others aren’t even running a national campaign– not on the ballot in Va. Santorum hasn’t even tried to win a western state.

    It time to get ready for the General.

  • mikeymike143

    a strong national defense is a must for america.

  • mikeymike143

    naturally the conservative base is not going to support him. if santorum had mitt’s money and organization this race would already be over

  • RonsBoy

    xymbaline,

    By “honest convention”, you mean NOT Romney. I’m man enough to wear pink and I’m consrvative enough to back Romney. I’m interested in winning in November. You seem interest in it not being Romney.

    My Blog when I came out for Romney over Gringrich.

    http://www.teapartynation.com/forum/topics/newt-crying-for-a-cheerleader-made-me-a-romney-cheerleader-1st

    Sorry for the misspelling.

  • RonsBoy

    Let’s take a Presidential Election and turn it into a Power Struggle.

    No Thanks. I want to win the Presidency and Congress. There are things that need to be done to put this country back on the right track.

  • vastrightwingconspiracy

    …of the moment people.

    Let’s not forget what states voted yesterday, and that Romney did much better this time around than last time around. We’re halfway through this thing and Romney has a prohibitive lead and Santorum’s running out of states where religion is as much as a factor is it is in AL and MS.

    The big story is Santorum’s wins over Gingrich and Romney’s inability to manage expectations.

  • RonsBoy

    All we need is “Santorum”, “Perry”, or “Gringrich” because you say so.

  • RonsBoy

    is pinning his hope on a brokered convention.

  • vastrightwingconspiracy

    Message is more important than money. The Senator’s messages is as oppressive as the President’s. It’s a message of a coerced utopia v. theocracy. People want neither.

    While far right so-cons think they are the majority, they are not. Outside of specific regions, obviously.

    Don’t be a prisoner of the moment.

  • giatny

    The tea people are guaranteeing Obama’s reelection by voting for Santorum. Ironically he has the WORST record on fiscal matters, not to mention the fact that he will NEVER win nationally. The Republican Party seems determined to continue its unbroken record of stupidity. Anyone thinking this primary process is positive isn’t paying attention. The GOP has taken a clear path to the WH and control of Congress and made it a near impossibility. Another 4 years of Obama will annihilate what little is left of the country. Just the fact that both Santorum and Gingrich have stated their intention to put spite and ego before what is best for the party
    disqualifies both from consideration.
    This election is the LAST chance to
    stop Obama’s fatal agenda. It is not
    the time for the tea party to battle
    the establishment. It will be fatal.
    Santorum’s support of Arlen Spector
    supplied Obama with the 60th vote for
    Obamacare. That is a far, far worse sin
    than Romneycare. Wake Up. Stop
    torturing the country with the creepy
    ex-senator from PA.

  • bayareamj

    Recent polling does not agree with this statement. If you think Ron Paul could beat President Obama in a head to head match up – you’re delusional.

    RealClearPolicitcs average poll data has Obama up on Romney by 4, up on Santorum by 7.3 and up on Paul by 7.4. Newt is down by a whopping 13 points.

    All Republican candidates are down but Romney is the closest. Romney is who the Left is concerned with. The rest are not even within the MOE. Note: I do not support Romney.

  • garfieldjl

    Remember most of the media wants Obama to win, that’s why they are being shills for Romney.

  • bayareamj

    But consistently behind. If economic news sours, Romney could beat Obama using the ABO strategy + voters who are dismayed by the economy.

    I do not believe Newt or Paul have a snowball’s chance in hell of even competing with the President.

    Santorum has spirit and loyal supporters, but does he have the support of the middle, the population that actually decides presidential elections. That support remains in question.

  • bayareamj

    Thats what we get if Newt or Santorum wins the nomination. If Romney wins, the debates wont feature the dramatic contest of ideologies.

  • bayareamj

    is that the far right is rejecting Romney as the pundits predicted from the first day. The Question I have is, can Romney win the Presidency with tepid support from the far right base?

    How well will ‘get out and vote’ programs work for Romney come the fall if he is the nominee.

    The right seems to be at each other’s throats. However, in 08, many Hillary fans claimed they would never vote for Obama after the bruising primary, yet when time came, they did. Romney is hoping for the same kind of successful woo’ing to take place

  • http://www.hakubi.us/ Neil Stevens

    Watch out, the Mitt Romney black helicopters are coming!

  • littlehouse18

    But that did not work out for him. Then he changes his tune and says just wait till Alabama and Mississippi. They did not really work out for him. So now its all the way to Tampa.

    It just adds to the concerns I have about part of his character. He is a great speechmaker and debater, but his organization is not good, and he doesn’t seem to stick to his word. It may or may not be critical yet for him to leave the race, but I don’t have confidence that he will do the most honorable thing and get out and leave when indicated for the sake of the conservative cause.

  • littlehouse18

    Remember that townhall in Iowa that only one person came to, and yet Santorum took the time to speak with him?

  • acat

    Really? That’s their story?

    Mew

  • acat

    I know evangelicals who voted for Obama.

    I know evangelicals who do volunteer work for Dem campaigns.

    I know evangelicals who can’t name their Senators.

    (shorter) “In other news, correlation and causality are still different.”

    Mew

  • littlehouse18

    Sounds like there’s a fix in. Lots of questionable goings-on this season.

  • acat

    .. and has this cat wondering how long, after the Tea Parties got a *lot* of new eyeballs looking at the process, this level of nonsense will remain business as usual.

    Mew

  • demsaresatanic

    that he is in all the way to the convention for weeks. He has not changed his tune.

  • davenj1

    that Romney’s Mormon faith would certainly not help him in the south. However, instead of focusing on performance in the south, which will turn to whoever the GOP nominee is (under the anyone but Obama theory), too much emphasis is being placed on Santorum’s victories in AL and MS. Performance and outcomes in swing states are more important indicators of “electability” against Obama which is the ultiimate goal. That beingb said, because Romney won a swing state like FL or a marginally swing state like MI does not translate into him winning those states against Obama.

    I have concerns aout Romney. Unlike Santorum, he lacks that connection variable with people. I am not going to question the degree of his conservatism, but would hold him accountable should he win. Excluding the colonization of the moon proposal, Gingrich probably has the most commonsense and practical solutions to problems. Sometimes when I watch Romney speeches (trees grow the correct height in Michigan?), I get embarrassed for him. The same for Santorum at times. But not so much Gingrich, so go figure…

  • acat

    Although .. with some stumbles… (it’s a short piece, just go read it…)

    Mew

  • ffc99

    will love this…

  • http://www.gmsplace.com/ civil truth

    I’m getting the impression that the first letter is an “O” – looking at all your comments. If so, you’re welcome to observe but please don’t get into the middle of our family disputes.

  • garfieldjl

    I voted for McCain in 2008, I want Obama out of office.

    I have supported Newt Gingrich from summer of last year all the way through now.

    I was delighted at the possibilty of a Gingrich/Cain or Cain/Gingrich ticket. I was upset when Cain left the race, I don’t blame him after that smear job done on him.

    I didn’t much care for Perry at first, but if he was the nominee I would support him whole heartedly.

    I would support Santorum, particularly if he got Newt as his running mate.

    However the one I want to be the next President of the United States is Newt Gingrich, I think he has the solutions, he knows how to impliment said solutions, and he has a rough idea where all the bodies are buried in DC so he can kinda get congress to go along with implimenting those solutions.

    The are only two people that I will not support in this race:

    I will not support Mitt Romney in the primary nor will I support him in the general.

    I will not support Obama in the general PERIOD.

    I want someone else to be the nominee so I can be happy that Obama gets thrown out of office and Romney doesn’t become President.

  • http://www.gmsplace.com/ civil truth

    My question as to whether he supported Obama was directed to bayareamj, to whom we both had replied.

    You just made a mistake in following the comments lines. I was not questioning your bona fides in the least. At ease.

  • http://www.developmentcatalyst.blogspot.com/ raphnexx

    Traditional politicians are doomed if the transparency will be publicized.

  • Juggernaut

    low on money too in comparison to Obama. Sorry!