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If You Like 2012, You Will Love A 2nd Obama Term

Magically using the monthly job report as a time machine into the future.

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Presidents who are successful in winning a second term often center their campaigns on a grand vision.  Reagan had the ‘city on the hill’ in 1984. FDR continued his grand progressive vision of the New Deal, cementing Democrats as the majority party for a generation.  Even Bill Clinton and George W. Bush, neither known for the ‘vision thing’, largely had a clear, enunciated plan to move the nation forward.

Dare I ask:  What is Barack Obama’s vision?

Left to his own devices, Obama would love to run a campaign on ‘Hope and Change 2.0′.  But a little thing called reality stepped in the way.  The economy, which many have suspected was languishing in a period of stagnation we have not seen in four decades, has truly been struggling, as today’s July jobs report is sure to continue to show.

There is no change.  And there is certainly no hope.

President Obama has laid out very few specifics on what he would do with a second term.  The grand irony is the Obama campaign as well as the mainstream media criticize Romney for the lack of specifics, after providing far more than Obama ever has.  Obama’s stump speeches today are largely the same old message as he rolled out in 2010 and 2011:  more spending, more infrastructure, and magically…more jobs.

The truth is Obama’s economic plan is a house of cards.  The public, by large margins, is against another large stimulus. The evidence is clear that although infrastructure spending may have a positive economic impact in the ‘out years’ (meaning a duration of decades), it does not have much economic impact in the short term.  Obama himself now accepts that ‘shovel ready jobs’ never existed.  Those jobs were always an illusion created in a liberal think tank, not on the roads and byways of America.

So all that is left of the liberal solutions to our economic doldrums is to throw money blindly at the problem, and hope for the best:  The Krugmanian solution, as it were.  But we all know where that ends up, don’t we?

Actually, we are living that reality, here today, in 2012.

We don’t need to imagine what a future under a second term of Barack Obama would look like, because we are experiencing it in real time.  Obama as President. The House in GOP hands.  Sure, the Senate could switch to the GOP or not, but would that really make all that much difference? Basically, re-electing Barack Obama is a vote for the status quo.  There really is no reason to believe that any of the major players will change if Obama is re-elected.

And what is that status quo?

As of the last jobs report, the unemployment rate is 8.2%, while the Obama Administration predicted it would be 5.6% when the stimulus was passed.  Since the recession ended in June of 2009, less than half the jobs lost in the recession have been recovered. About 7.6 million people were working before the recession than are working now.  4.2 million of those jobs were lost from the time Obama took office to February of 2010, just as a point of clarification.

The Obama Administration arbitrarily picks a date 27 months ago as the starting point for their recovery.  Even using their own hand picked starting point, Obama’s recovery created 4.3 million jobs.  When you take that total and divide it by the intervening 27 months, we arrive at an average of about 159,000 jobs over that stretch.  That, my friends, is the economic equivalent of treading water, when you consider that as a nation we need approximately 150,000 jobs a month just to meet our overall population growth.

The closest analogue we have historically for this recession is the 1980-1982 recession.   At this point during that recovery, which is said to have begun in July 1981 and ended in November 1982, the economy had produced an 8.9 percent increase in civilian employment — almost 9 million jobs. Real GDP growth averaged over 5 percent in the first three years of the Reagan recovery, compared to an average of 2.4 percent three years into the Obama recovery.

Obama supporters will argue that this is a deeper recession with more profound structural difficulties.  Maybe so.  But traditionally, even going back to the Great Depression which certainly had far greater long term structural challenges, the economic rule has been clear:  the sharper the recession, the faster the recovery.  The opposite has held true under Obama.  Even if you can’t compare this recession to Reagan’s, you cannot make a valid argument to explain away the doldrums that we now suffer through.

What makes this doubly bad is that Obama really has no new vision to change the country’s course.  Ironically, his mantra has become ‘Stay the course’.   His stump speeches are the same, tired rhetoric about jobs and infrastructure we have heard from 2008 onward.  Intellectually, Obama’s well has run dry.  What you see is what you get.  And what we are seeing right now isn’t good.

Every presidental re-election campaign ultimately boils down to a simple binary choice:  does the President deserve four more years?  It has always been a referendum, no matter how the President in power wants to spin it.  1980 was a clear referendum on Jimmy Carter’s abject failure both in foreign affairs and domestic policy.  Reagan’s landslide in 1984 was driven by the appearance of a real recovery, with an average of half a million jobs being created a month late into that year.  1992 was fascinating, as the economy was clearly recovering (GDP grew by approximately 4% in the final quarter of that year), but the public didn’t feel the recovery, pushing George H.W. Bush to defeat.  Bill Clinton and George W. Bush both had good economic records while running for re-election, although they had secondary issues that were dragging them down politically.  But even in those cases, it didn’t matter, as the public gave both of them a second chance.

There is no historical analogue for Barack H. Obama to create a path to re-election. There is no real example of the economy languishing and the public giving the President a pass.  Maybe, as liberals keep hoping, this time will be different, unique, unexpected.  And Obama’s supporters hope that he will come up with some miracle to help the economy recover in his second term.  However, one thing is clear:  you don’t need to imagine what a second Obama term would look like.

We are already living it today.

 

COMMENTS

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  • pauld408

    As bad as Obie is ,,he`s had lots of help,,He inherited a mess of epics, I don`t care if infrastructure work shows benefits long term and not right away,,Do it,, better to pay people to work than Unemployment,

    PS 1/3 of the Stimulus was tax cuts,,Reagan`s 2 terms were one large “stimulus” he cut taxes while increasing spending.. He was forced to raise payroll taxes ,, His budget director Stockman has repeatedly informed multi medias that his supply side policies and predictions were fiscally dishonest

  • http://libertynews.com/ mbecker908

    Great three post run. For a troll.

  • whit3

    Blaming Bush may have worked the first six months of his administration, but its now three plus solid years since Obama was innaguarated. He now is the proud owner of the economic mess in this country. Yet he refuses to take owernship and admit that everything he did was a failure.

    In the past, I have been hired for three IT jobs to clean up the mess that an unqualified person caused. When I was hired, I was expected to clean up the mess. If I would have not made any progress and seen things get worse and only blamed my predecessor, I would have been fired quickly.

    November is the time when we fire Obama and hire someone else!

  • gbenton

    That you ‘don’t care if infrastructure work shows benefits in the long term and not right away’ says plenty about your economic ignorance.

    Obama dropped nearly a trillion on the Keynesian roulette wheel and much of it went into his cronies pockets and, as he laughed, wasn’t so ‘shovel ready’ after all. So it didn’t work ‘now’ and it won’t work in the long term either, you know why? Because Krugman and others already whine that that money is gone bye bye and they want MORE stimulus to jump start the flatlined economy.

    Hint: demand-side government spending doesn’t work because it drains money from the real economy in the form of debt or taxes or both and crowds out real investment, which you can see with banks now preferring to buy risk free bonds instead of lending to businesses and consumers.

    Reagan’s supply side tax cuts freed up private capital to invest and that worked inspite of increased spending on things like, oh, I don’t know, what was it, that’s right, DEFEATING COMMUNISM.

    Gorby took down that damned wall eventually and we defeated Communism in the first round… only to have one sneak in the White House under the mantle of ‘progressive’ when he hid his Marxist upbringing.

    Result? Reagan defeated a global super power with targeted spending and cut taxes and deregulated OUR economy from the constipated Carter years and we had a multi-decade BOOM. Obama blew more money than any preivous president (combined!) and has 43 months of unemployment over 8% and has no more cards to play… and he couldn’t defeat Iran, lost our gains in Iraq, and is muddling through Afghanistan, and led from behind in Libya, Egypt, and now has an incontinence problem with Syria, too.

    So… “As bad as Obie is…” is just daft when you follow it up with a lame call for ‘make work’ jobs that are funded by borrowing that literally have never worked in history as a viable economic plan (ask the Romans, sparky).

    As for your canard about the failure of supply side economics, are you an 80′s denier? Go away. We would take Reagan over Obama any day and any real American would, too. Draw your own conclusions about what I mean by that.

  • emptybucket

    gotten the knack first read through was suspicious, but I wasn’t quite sure.
    Thanks

  • tnfriendofcoal101368

    His latest troll post: “He gives more to the Morms than he does to the US treasury which provides for our defense and so much more” because you know denigrating someone’s religious beliefs is what the cool kids do and of course all the Dem’s say to themselves …I think I’ll pay 50% more taxes than I legally owe..

  • pauld408

    Did I tell a lie?

  • emptybucket

    something like that? We mute the tele when he or any of his minions are on spinning but a few days ago I think I saw a Forward sign.

  • http://libertynews.com/ mbecker908

    Look at the content of the posts. When you find short no-context stabs that’s an indicator. When you find content like this post, it’s obvious.

  • checkmate2012

    “I agree,,if he discloses his tax records he`ll lose
    pauld408 Friday, August 3rd at 12:30AM EDT (link)

    Stonewall at all costs,, The less the people know ,,the better”

    We all know Romney has nothing to hide and the Left just wants to get at something from this clean cut nominee we have running…they’ll make it up out of thin air if they have to but need some fodder to start the fire.

  • emptybucket

    appreciate the hints. I am not going to debate or try to educate a narrow minded troll.

    Now if Lib starts asking questions for enlightenment, that’s a different matter. But I’ve notice once they get someone going, Lib ends up going back to their own viewpoint.

  • http://libertynews.com/ mbecker908

    “Lie”? Please. You wouldn’t know the truth if it hit hit you on the head, nor would you have a clue about a “fact”.

    You’re a creature of talking points.

    Now take your pathetic pointy things and shove them where the sun doesn’t shine. You’re done here even if the Mods don’t get around to gaking you for a while. You did pick a busy week.

  • gbenton

    so yes, you told a lie.

    supply side economics was only a failure in leftist’s eyes because it meant they wouldn’t have the White House for 12 years… and Clinton basically coasted on a revival of the boom that Reagan started.

    When did things go to crap? Oh, that’s right, a year after Democrats took over Congress and things got even worse when the anti-Reagan got his socialist mitts on the levers of the economy.

  • checkmate2012

    You can’t debate with libs because they can’t stay on point. They always change the subject and then proceed to lie.

    I wish just one lib, including the prez, would just come out and tell the truth about their visions. Just once he could say, “I always believed in gay marriage, socialism, a weak military, banks are evil, but I lied to get elected!”.

    Not ever going to happen with any lib, so they lie and obfuscate.

  • ken58

    1. Spend trillions of taxpayer dollars
    2. ?
    3. Millions of jobs created

  • pauld408

    I get Modded out? wow ,,I thought this was a forum,, Fair and balanced in practice,, Jeez I was hoping for real debate,,Well I have to experience first hand how you all get on the same page

  • tnfriendofcoal101368

    But then again as liberal socialist misinformed is how you make it through the day. We are not interested in debate about Barack Obama or his socialist policies; we are only interested in running his tail out of Washington in a U-Haul with a sticker that says “Chicago or Bust” on the back (sorry, acat). If you aren’t on that play; this isn’t your huddle.

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  • http://libertynews.com/ mbecker908

    I hate to say this, but you even make garfield look rational.

    You come in our house, pretend to be something you’re not, you’re quickly found out by your betters and now your pathetic little feelings are hurt.

    Lefty posters are always welcome here and folks like Crab Cakes and Lefty Lurker are treated with respect because they can articulate their views and they’ve never pretended to be something other than who they are. They are intelligent (you’re not), they can make a cogent argument (you can’t) and they’re not pathetic, girly whiners (you are).

    Don’t let the door hit you on the way out. And before you start telling your little friends how you faced the enemy and made fools of them be sure to zip up your pants and wash your hands.

  • checkmate2012

    enough for you? Oh, and we abide by the site rules which you may want to read before posting here. They are real simple to follow.

  • APA Guy

    I have rarely crossed a path of ignorance this distinctive on this blog, but you have pulled it off…congrats.

  • http://libertynews.com/ mbecker908

  • tnfriendofcoal101368

    as CrabCakes said: “not to poop the sandbox” i.e. try to hawk Obama campaign talking points or memes.

  • pauld408

    What did I “pretend” ?

  • emptybucket

    got it now?

    “girly whiner” might have hit home, eh?

  • pauld408

    Yep ,,Im a first timer,,Don`t want to break “rules”,,No matter ,, I learned alot..

  • http://libertynews.com/ mbecker908

    Troll.

  • emptybucket

    comments at RedState are incredible. I try to be very careful and articulate in the best way i can. The trolls drive me nuts because as you say, you can’t help them understand. Way too busy spouting those talking points or resorting to name calling.

    Liberals don’t know how to have fun. Can’t they read between the lines and see sometimes we are all joking about something?

    What drives a troll to even come to RedState? I certainly have never been to Huffpost or whatever it is called.

  • funwithknives

    David Ax. Says, They Do. Simple and no deep thinking* required.
    {Like Progressives do ANY of That *……}

    But it’s always nice to get caught up to what Progressives call Thinking , Policies or Democracy, blue state style.
    Funny thing though, it always sounds so damned infantile and
    not-smart.
    Each and every time it’s brought here.

  • funwithknives

    at the bottom of the ‘Forward’ thingie.

    It reads ..”to reach the cliff we’re headed for”.

    It’s almost ‘transparent’, but not quite yet…….

  • edintexas

    The unadjusted data has been released. The norm has been an adjustment downward in the increase, and a decrease in the increase is expected when the final data for July are released. The MSM is hawking the 16x,000 employment increase in July, while picking an academic economist or two to denigrate the increase in unemployment from 8.2% to 8.3% (a rounding issue they claim).

    Only FNC seems to be interested in the U6 data (percentage inclduing those unemployed and seeking work, those forced to accept part time employment though wanting full time work and those who are simply no longer seeking work but would be working if they could find work). which remains above 16%.

    The spin has already started and we can expect the final data to be quietly released, with little to no fanfare from the MSM.

  • edintexas

    “inclduing” should be including.

  • popdaddy

    A meaningful diary, thanks however I believe the point of reverence regarding Obama

  • audax

    Congratulations on making the Front Page!

  • gbenton

    and look, you even caught a troll :)