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Some GOP Candidates Have Uninformed Beliefs on the Environment and Energy.

We hear recently from GOP Candidate Mitt Romney. He tells us the following:

I’m told that we use almost twice as much energy per person as does a European, and more like three times as much as does a Japanese citizen. We could do a lot better. I’d like to see our vehicles, and our homes, and our systems of insulation and so forth become far more efficient. I believe that we have a role in trying to encourage that to happen.

Mitt Romney’s lack of data can be easily remedied by referring to The Little Green Data Book which The World Bank puts out once per decade. Steven Hayward posts some results on Powerline.com. One useful metric of energy efficiency is GDP in $/Kg of Oil burned.

The world averages 5.4, the US scores 5.5. This puts us behind the Eurozone average (8.2), but ahead of Canada and Finland. This makes me wonder if the statistic is primarily a measure of two variables; the cost of energy and mean population density. Places where people live further apart (Canada and Finland) have worse efficiency ratings. Places where people live closer together (The Eurozone – Great Britain in particular), have much higher efficiencies. The US falls in between these two extremes.

Mr. Romney’s statement is an exaggeration at best. No country in the survey scored twice as well as the United States on energy efficiency. Great Britain was the closest at $9.9/ kg of Oil burned in GDP. I’d also like to see our vehicles; homes and insulation do a better job. This explains why all the firms that make these things hire engineers.

Candidate Romney’s (or any other Presidential Candidate’s) role in making energy efficiency happen does not exist. American engineers and workers can both design and build cars well enough, or they can’t. Japanese cars have done better than American cars in energy efficiency for years and have far exceeded US government fleet standards. They have accomplished this with no fuel efficiency mandate whatsoever from the Japanese Government.

Mr. Romney’s tendency to position himself in the informational void, based on passé conventional wisdom, extends also to the issue of Anthropogenic Global Warming. “I believe the world is getting warmer, and I believe that humans have contributed to that,” he told a crowd of about 200 at a town hall meeting in Manchester, New Hampshire. (Rueters, ObCit).

I believe the world is getting warmer as well. I’ll show you 32 years of satellite data that prove it. That would be a total warming +0.13 degrees Centigrade in 32 years. That’s +0.0041 degrees Centigrade per year. How much of that +0.0041 degrees Centigrade I personally contribute this year is not even a statistically relevant question.

All of this points to a much bigger question about Mitt Romney. It goes straight to the man’s intellect and work ethic. The relevant data about both US energy use and Global Warming can be had with a few short clicks on the Internet. James Hanson’s bogus allegations of scientific censorship aside, there is no legitimate excuse for a man who wants as much power as Mitt Romney to remain so abysmally uninformed.

He takes positions on these issues from The New York Times. He takes them uncritically, despite the fact that people’s livelihoods will ride on every decision he makes about these issues if he makes it to The White House. He only needs to talk to Roy Spencer or Steven Hayward for five minutes to learn about twice as much about energy and the environment as he currently knows.

Mitt Romney’s poll numbers may be ascendant. His hair may indeed look perfect. But what’s under that coif begins to bother me if he continues to remain as badly informed about energy and the environment as he currently stands right now. The next US President cannot possibly resurrect the decaying US economy if he remains fundamentally ignorant of the physical and economic realities regarding its primary source of motive power. Mitt Romney, like every other current GOP candidate, has a lot to learn before he is truly ready to serve as President.

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COMMENTS

  • paulnashtn

    From a former huge Mitt supporter who is now having SERIOUS second thoughts

    • Flagstaff

      Mitt supporter, but I am still disposed to listen to him. However, as you say, every time he mis-speaks (that is, says something he should leave unsaid), second thoughts follow.

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  • Finrod

    Romney seems to be nailing down his position as the least conservative Republican running for President.

    • 308winchester

      Holy Cow Batman, Mitt is far worse then I ever imagined. He’s nothing but a Left wing RINO. Golbal Warming, energy rationing, farm subsidies for ethynol gas. The RedState article, pretty well sums it up. He’s from Mass, no big surprise. We can do way better than this guy. Nio more McCains please !!!

    • GregInFla

      from the quotes I’ve heard on Rush.

  • luvnthebigsites

    Either he’s pandering to the other side because he might believe the drivel he’s spewing, or he has surrounded himself with the most inept idiotic campaign staff imaginable.

    The final nail was ” I believe in AGW but I wont do anything about it” I heard a one liner similar to that that goes like this: ” I voted for it before I voted against it”. Obama and company will beat him over the head with that endlessly not to mention the conservative base scorned.

    Yea, Its over.

    • msctex

      “I believe the world is ending and we might be able to do something about it, but I won’t because I want to be elected.”

      Global Warming is nonsense, but the above is possibly worse.

  • gpclaw

    While Governor, both Tim Pawlenty and Rick Perry signed renewable energy mandates into law,

    A renewable energy mandate, as the name implies,requires energy companies to produce a specific percentage of electricity from renewable sources. Minnesota’s mandate calls for 25% by 2025, while Texas mandates 10K MW by 2025.

    Pawlenty and Perry aren’t the only ones who have implemented this type of policy. In total, 24 states have signed a renewable energy mandate into law.

    Now, these laws aren’t always about AGW. They are often proposed in the name of “investment” and “job creation”. Of course, the idea that the government can create jobs is as big as a myth as AGW.

    • luvnthebigsites

      pass provided they sincerely walk it back and explain why it was (and is) bad policy. Now if you Double-Down on stupid… Your 86ed for life. ( Sorry Romney )

      • gpclaw

        When it comes to bad legislation.

        It depends on when the person walks it back. Let’s not forget that these are politicians we are talking about, and will say what they have to in order to get elected. Of course a person who is running for higher office is going to try to walk away from a bad policy decision.

        It also depends on how bad the policy is, and how destructive. Anyone can say that they no longer support a position, but their is no way of telling how committed they are to that statement. What if the President’s party was ever in the minority, and this type of legislation passed the congress. If it is related to something that the president supported earlier in his career, will he veto it? He didn’t support it, but he didn’t oppose it either.

        • luvnthebigsites

          “Bad legislation” opens up a thousand cans of worms, so look at it this way.
          The Dems take the house in 2012 (REMEMBER just hypothetically) but one of these souls gets the POTUS spot:

          T-Paw
          Perry
          Palin
          Cain
          Romney

          Congress passes “Cap n Tax”. Which candidate is most likely to sign it into law? Not that any of them would, but which one carries the highest probability based on the fact that all politicians are liars? (On top of what we know about them to date)

          • gpclaw

            1) Pawlenty – Proposed and advocated, what at the time was considered to be the most aggressive RES in the nation. MN is now number 2, behind California

            2) Perry – Did sign legislation, however a RES already in place in Texas. The legislation he signed made it more aggressive.

            3) Romney – Never passed an RES, because it was already on the books when he tool office. Also, we have his recent comment.

            4) Cain – No record to go by. Put him here because I don’t think he is more pro-hydrocarbon than Palin.

            5) Palin, although aesthete says she signed a RES into law, the EIA doesn’t have Alaska on it’s list of states, so I can neither confirm nor deny. I know she loves hydro-carbons, and a RES doesn’t seem like her thing.

            I wrote down thread, what I would need to see happen for me to support a candidate who is ‘soft’ on this issue.

            Great question, BTW

          • luvnthebigsites

            I guess I should give my picks… and for fun based entirely on my “gut”…

            From “most likely” (top) to “least likely” (bottom) to sign cap n trade:

            Romney
            T-Paw
            Perry
            Palin
            Cain

            :)

          • gpclaw

            Because I’ve officially labeled him a Democrat.

          • http://www4.webng.com/rickbull/lostlucky/ rickbull

            is a Free Market Capitalist Economy. We didn’t need the government to mandate telephones, light bulbs, television, automobiles, alternating current rather than direct current power lines, and the list goes on ad infinitum. We will need renewable energy eventually, because the fossil fuels won’t last forever, but anything that the government mandates creates massive inefficiency. The free market will find the most efficient, cost-effective means of capturing new energy sources. If the government wants to offer a reward for such innovation, that’s great–but a reward and a subsidy are NOT the same thing.

            I’ll end here. Got to get back to work on my Mr. Fusion.

          • gekster
          • GregInFla

            Huntsman

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      • gpclaw

        It seems like more Republicans support this type of thing, than maybe we thought. Lindsey Graham is a big proponent of climate change legislation, and I’m sure their are a host of others.

        Conservatives are not only fighting the left on this issue, but other Republicans too. This is why I judge this issue more harshly than others. If the nominee is ‘soft’ on climate change, he will have no troubles finding others in his own party, who share his views.

        This issue needs more attention. I need assurances, on the level of a campaign promise and agenda item, that the GOP nominee will NEVER sign climate legislation – which includes cap and trade, and renewable energy standards – before they will get my support. It needs to be as clear as day, ala “Read my lips”, so that if they waiver, there will be no weaseling out of it.

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  • juumanistra

    You refer to the fact that Japanese automakers have produced lines of products in their home markets that out-perform their American counterparts in terms of fuel economy in the absence of governmental fuel economy standards. This is technically true, but it implies that the Japanese government promulgates no regulations relating to such things, which is not true in the slightest. The Japanese method of promoting automotive efficiency is to levy a tax directly on engine displacement: The larger the engine, the greater the tariff owed to the government. (I am unsure if it’s levied at point-of-sale or if it is a recurring annual property tax, except that regardless of when it is levied, it is rather hefty.)

    Such methodology actually has a lot going for it compared with fleetwide fuel efficiency standards, because it attenuates the regulatory burden more efficiently and leads to arguably better engineering solutions. Of course, such is also liable to get hell raised in a nation where the 5.0L V8 is as sacred to the national identity as George Washington and Gettysburg, so I suspect we won’t see any rationalization of CAFE any time soon.

    • drothgery

      That other countries’ emissions standards and safety standards are very different; many cars available in non-US markets that get great fuel economy either fail US emissions standards (this is common on European diesels) or fail US safety standards (generally common on small cars from anywhere).

  • billinsuwanee

    Only the most primative societies thought they could affect and/or control the weather. The danced to make it rain. They cut-out the hearts of living humans to appease the God’s. They sacrificed animals and people to get their wish.

    Now we have a whole stable of worthless Republicans and Liberals that think we can impact the weather. Unbelieveable!

    • juumanistra

      Localized weather manipulation has been proven in real-world circumstances: The Chinese used a fair bit of cloud-seeding during the run-up to the 2008 Olympics to provide a short-tern cure to Beijing for its smog problem, lest it look terrible on international television.

      If you were referring to anthropogenic global warming…well, haven’t you been listening to the Left? Weather isn’t climate! (Except when the Left wants it to be.)

      • gpclaw

        Land use effects temperature.

        Clearing away grasslands, and replacing them with miles of concrete roads and buildings will raise the temperature in the immediate area.

        Also, clearing an area, and converting into a corn field for ethanol production, also changes the land to make the local area warmer.

        You know what else increases the local temperature, solar cells. Solar cells are very, very inefficient. In addition to producing electricity, they produce heat.

        • juumanistra

          The urban island effect is a myth! Just like the Moon landings. And Chimpy McBushitler legitimately winning Florida in 2000. And the CIA not being able to listen to my thoughts because of the braces I wear.

          • gpclaw

            Developed invisible braces , specifically with people like you in mind.

  • standingonthewall

    Romney is a conservative in the tradition of the Bush Presidents. He’s better than Obama and that’s about it.

    • gpclaw

      Romney is conservative in the tradition of the Clintons.

  • Tbone

    required to vote for his idiot butt.

  • Menlo

    To an extent, I don’t care if they raise the price of certain products as long as the products function just as good or better and are no more likely to be made in China. That never seems to happen though.

    In a marketplace already dominated with “Made in China,” we don’t need MORE faulty appliances and equipment that will ultimately lead to MORE waste and environmental damage (while artificially lining the pockets of the wealthy elites who will benefit).

    I ultimately would not care if such actions were proven beyond a shadow of a doubt to cause catastrophic climate change (and especially a loss of natural resources, a threat for which the market by definition accounts). Such a threat would not be sufficient justification for Congress to act; and until the belief to the contrary is changed I don’t give a hoot what people believe about “climate change.”

    The “science” is and should be irrelevant, and I’d like to hear someone acknowledge it.

    • gpclaw

      Unless AGW can be definitively proven, then the government needs to stay out of it.

      If the potential of AGW is such a large concern, than private individuals can take what ever preventative measures that they see fit. This may mean purchasing a more fuel efficient vehicle, installing solar panels, better insulating their homes, car pooling, or even refusing to purchase products from companies that are heavy “polluters”. If enough people are concerned about the issue, and enough people change their habits, the market will produce products to meet those desires.

      If the number of American’s who claim to be concerned about AGW, put their money where their mouth is, then I would see a lot more Honda Civics on the road, and less Chevy Tahoes.

      • Menlo

        My point is that even if it CAN be definitively proven, the government should stay out. THAT is what people need to be persuaded to believe.

        • gpclaw

          If AGW were to be proven real, and the near future consequences were dire enough, then government intervention would be acceptable.

          AGW would then become no different than any other form of pollution, with real consequences to a community. This is one of the few legitimate purposes for government.

          If a company releases toxic chemicals into the water supply, causing harm to everyone who drinks from it, then their is a role for government. To take it step further, if a chemical has a known legitimate public health risk if it enters the water supply, it is appropriate for the government to lay out regulations to reduce this risk,

          Why would CO2 emmisions be any different, if AGW were proven to be real and harmful?

          • Menlo

            The way it is defined by most of the elites, it is not a problem of dire near-term consequences but of long-term ones. In addition, the government of one nation cannot solve a global problem. It can’t even solve local environmental problems. They are actively polluting the water supply in the name of “helping kids’ teeth.” In any event, their proposals would only make the problem worse. Anyone electable would incapable of improving things. Perhaps more importantly, it is also an unprovable phenomenon. If it could be proven to have dire near-term consequences, it would have been proven long ago.

  • doncorleone

    He’s going after the all-mighty, fearless, white, moderate. They were instrumental in the installation of the means our destruction as a republic. Romney is merely showing his true face. With a.e.p. in ohio, the t.v.a. closing coal burners to adhere to the economically homicidal e.p.a., the climate change hoax’s net is closing, and he’s one of the “fishermen”.

  • boonerdan

    . . . what in the hell was the question? Why would anyone be surprised by Mitt supporting government-run climate action when he supported, promoted, and PASSED government-run health care?

    If he is the GOP’s front-runner, we are doomed.

  • skorrent1

    Gary Paul and Ron Johnson at the bottom of my GOP list. Still above BHO, tho.

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      • whit3

        I’ve talked to several conservative Republicans and conservative leaning independents that I know. They all do not like Mitt Romney and feel that he is nothing more than a “white Obama.”

        Several of them said that if Mitt Romney is the Republican nominee, they might as well not vote!

        For the record, I do not want Romney as the Republican nominee. I much prefer Herman Cain or TPaw.

        • http://www4.webng.com/rickbull/lostlucky/ rickbull

          In every interview I have seen on CNN and Fox (I refuse to even let BSNBC touch my television), Cain has directed the conversation. He won’t let interviewers dwell on questions he feels he has adequately answered. His business experience has most definitely given him much media savvy.

          I haven’t seen as much of TPaw, but if he can stay on his agenda and not let the media dictate the subject matter, I think he may have a good chance of picking up the moderate independent vote.

  • izoneguy

    Okay, here’s the bombshell. The volcanic eruption in Iceland, since its first spewing of volcanic ash has, in just FOUR DAYS, NEGATED EVERY SINGLE EFFORT you have made in the past five years to control CO2 emissions on our planet ? all of you.
    Of course you know about this evil carbon dioxide that we are trying to suppress ? it?s that vital chemical compound that every plant requires to live and grow, and to synthesize into oxygen for us humans, and all animal life.

  • 6eorge Jetson

    of the average Japanese citizen.

    I say we go for 4!

  • silentcal2012

    Attacking Romney for his intellect and work ethic is not a winning strategy. He is one of the brightest and most hard working men in politics. Even his enemies in Massachusetts reluctantly concede this.

  • http://aposematic.wordpress.com aposematic

    Anyone dumb enough to believe leftists’ scam that is AGW, or crooked enough to promote the scam that is AGW, is too dumb or too crooked to be POTUS (May I use Obama and his cabal of misfits as the perfect example)! I don’t care what their other “so called” qualifications are touted to be. Dumb is dumb and crooked is crooked…period. Romney craws his way onto Gingrich’s and Pelosi’s park bench is all I needed to know about this RINO. I have never ever voted for a Democrat; so, if Romney is the GOP’s nominee, I guess I will be forced to sit out or vote Democrat for the first time in 2012! At least with Obama, I know I’m getting a lying back stabbing Marxist and can try to defend against him.