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Charlie And Jesus

“What would Jesus do this weekend? Or Moses. Or Allah. Or anyone else,” the New York congressman said at a press conference on Capitol Hill. “I don’t want this book (debt negotiations) closed without the clergy having an opportunity to forcefully express themselves as well as I know they can do.”

Congressman Charlie Rangel.

It seems that Charlie Rangel has found a new friend. Someone he apparently hasn’t spent much time with lately. (At least that’s how I interpret his ethical standards). He perhaps thinks he can mobilize an army of clergymen to descend on Capitol Hill and force the productive population of America into further tax slavery to the free stuff army that predictably turns out to vote Democrat for the goodies.

Rangel said he was stumped as to why Washington wouldn’t be “besieged by spiritual leaders saying ‘do what you have to do – but not to the homeless, the jobless and the helpless. Not to the sick. And certainly not to the aging that are sick or those depending on Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid. I have not heard from those people who have been called by God to protect the poor. I haven’t heard them,” he said. “The issues that are going to be discussed this weekend involve spiritual, moral issues.” And Rangel’s plea to the poor and helpless? Call your religious leaders and ask, “what is Medicare all about? What is Medicaid all about? Why do we have taxes?’”

Now these are all quite fascinating questions. I’d like to know why we pay taxes when Congressman Rangel typically doesn’t. But to get back to Jesus; before he gets successfully kidnapped by this amoral bum on the taxpayer plush. I think we can reference an interesting piece of scripture called The Parable of The Talents.

One servant receives five talents, the second two talents, and the third one talent, according to their respective abilities. Returning after a long absence, the master asks his servants for an accounting. The first two servants explain that they have each put their money to work and doubled the value of the property they were entrusted with, and so they are each rewarded. The third servant, however, has merely hidden his talent in a hole in the ground, and is punished for being lazy:

But his lord answered and said to him, ‘You wicked and lazy servant, you knew that I reap where I have not sown, and gather where I have not scattered seed….‘For to everyone who has, more will be given, and he will have abundance; but from him who does not have, even what he has will be taken away. 30 And cast the unprofitable servant into the outer darkness. There will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.’

(Matthew 25:26, 29-30)

So like the lazy servant in The Good Lord’s parable, Congressman Charlie Rangel has spent the better part of several decades flensing the wealth of the American taxpayer. He has then used that wealth to hand out bread and circuses and buy himself reelection. Now the money has run out and patience of the bread makers and circus performers has ebbed away to just about nothing. He has the unmitigated gall to wonder what Jesus would do. He’s fortunate that Jesus has vastly greater wealth in patience with immoral charlatans than do I.

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  • dajeeps

    assuming the ideological purity of the left, their whole paradigm of wealth redistribution is a wholesale violation of the 10th commandment – Thou shall not covet. It’s doubtful Jesus would agree with them on much of anything at all, much less to do a lot of evil to serve thyself under cover of doing some supposed good. And I’m certain he wouldn’t be paying for Planned Parenthood.

    • http://theminorityreportblog.com Repair_Man_Jack

      would involve taking care of your offspring as opposed to snuffing them.

      • http://www.examiner.com/x-1597-Charlotte-Law--Politics-Examiner Mike gamecock DeVine

        does Charlie realize that the Jesus he and the Dems very selectively quote spoke more about Hell than any other figure in Scripture?

  • drfredc

    What would Jesus do? He’d probably start with telling folks that you shouldn’t covet other people’s wealth — aka taxing others to pay for your benefits or support is wrong.

    Then he’d work on teach you how to fish, rather than giving you a fish. And it wouldn’t be done via government — It would be done via the community social marketplace vehicle known as a church or via family or friends…

    The massive welfare state would be seen as a place of moral decay and degredation. Things should move towards individually and community driven social marketplaces where folks in need have some connection with their benefactors. Folks shouldn’t be some faceless number getting government entitlements of other’s labors.

    Jesus might also ponder what the whooo is going on with all these church leaders who’ve become party to this current social welfare mess in one form or another…

    • throwback59

      reworked campaign slogan: “Better Fred than the Red”

  • rcatheart

    Seminary student here, currently doing an internship at a small, rural parish.

    If any of my parishioners ever called to ask “what is Medicare all about? What is Medicaid all about? Why do we have taxes?”, I would find that as odd as if one of them were calling our congressman to learn more about Christology or liturgics.

    • http://theminorityreportblog.com Repair_Man_Jack

      and predictably, Congressman Rangel is handing people Google Maps to the wrong one.

      • http://www.examiner.com/x-1597-Charlotte-Law--Politics-Examiner Mike gamecock DeVine

        which is Caesar’s.

        • http://jhpruitt.blogtownhall.com/ kipling

          he was Caesar.

        • blooch

          “Why do we have taxes???

          and not, “Why do we pay taxes?”

          silvertongue

        • Green_Lantern

          I was saving that one all day.

          • http://www.examiner.com/x-1597-Charlotte-Law--Politics-Examiner Mike gamecock DeVine

            Lantern

          • Flagstaff

            Hornet. Aka Britt Reid, publisher of the “Daily Sentinel,” owner of “Black Beauty,” wielder of a gas gun (more effective than a TASER), and son (or grandson or great-grandson, depending on the incarnation) of Dan Reid, nephew of John Reid, aka the Lone Ranger. Whew!

          • http://www.examiner.com/x-1597-Charlotte-Law--Politics-Examiner Mike gamecock DeVine

            GE!

          • Flagstaff

            Next you’ll tell me that we will be getting emerald protection from Green Lightning Bugs.

  • NRPax

    I thought people like Mr. Rangel are the kind who screech about “separation of church and state.”

  • msctex

    . . .if he thought it would sway public opinion towards the Dem side of the Debt Ceiling issue.

    Telling these people they cannot spend any more money is not that far removed from cutting off the flow entirely, from their perspective. They spend in order to force more spending; to end the cycle is to no longer pretend Liberal Government actually has a beneficial effect for any group outside of DC itself, and to no longer pretend people such as Rangel are actually necessary in any way shape or form.

    They are getting more frightened than they have been in many generations, and they well should be.

    • http://www.examiner.com/x-1597-Charlotte-Law--Politics-Examiner Mike gamecock DeVine

      Bernadine Dohrn, Khalidi, Castro, Kennedy letter to Gorby trying to sabotage Reagan, Kerry met Viet Cong leader in Paris, pilgimages to Assad, Obama suck up to Ahmedinijad, Michael Moore, the guy that hit Denny in the head with a cement block, Casar Chavez, SEIU, PETA, Sharpton, Client No 9, Jane Fonda, etc

    • http://theminorityreportblog.com Repair_Man_Jack

      They spend in order to force more spending; to end the cycle is to no longer pretend Liberal Government actually has a beneficial effect for any group outside of DC itself…

      They are a self-licking, dog feces ice cream cone!!

  • gracepmc

    This is just so much garbage. This whole thing — debt, deficit, budget — is torturous. The fact of the matter is the party in power did not produce a budget. And now just like Obama does with every single breath — it’s everybody else’s fault. We are oozing money we don’t have. It’s a little late for Charlie to be thinking about Jesus. This is too crazy even for Jesus. If Jesus was remotely interested,Charlie wouldn’t be in Congress. And besides that Jesus is probably a little ticked off about all those dead babies.

    • http://theminorityreportblog.com Repair_Man_Jack

      I’m thinking book of Genesis, right after the two angels “advised” Lot to pake his stuff and walk.

  • johnt

    Harlem,a beach house in the Caribbean, Verily, He thundered, let him have a cut of the take from God’s House, the Apollo Theater and may the poor, and connected, reach out to him with donations for those holy crusades known as reelection And may he be blessed in not giving to Caesar what is Caesar’s, but put it in that holiest of places, the safe deposit box.
    I have spoken.

  • http://ilikemikehuckabee2012.blogspot.com/ texasconserv

    Mike Huckabee was on Fox and Friends this morning and had a great response to Charlie Rangel: Jesus would pay his taxes.

    You can watch the video here:

    http://www.mediaite.com/tv/huckabee-responds-to-rep-rangels-what-would-jesus-do-budget-query-with-scripture/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+mediaite%2FClHj+%28Mediaite%29

  • http://jhpruitt.blogtownhall.com/ kipling

    Charlie Rangel is a fraud who steals from the government – and thus the welfare programs he supports – in order to line his own pocket. How many children went hungry when Mr. Rangel failed to pay his taxes? How many elderly went without their medication because Mr. Rangel felt no need to abide by the tax code he wrote? How many people lost their homes while he enjoyed his illegally tax free vacation property?

    Jesus did not have much to say about tax codes but He had a lot to say about leaders who oppressed their people while claiming moral superiority. Charlie Rangel – the white washed tomb who tries to appear good on the outside but on the inside is full of death and decay. (Matthew 23:27)

    “For they [Charlie Rangel and the Democrats] bind heavy burdens, hard to bear, and lay them on men’s shoulders; but they themselves will not move the with one of their fingers. But all of their works they do to be seen by men.” (Matthew 23:4-5)

    Rangel wants the money so he can further enslave once free people to the welfare state. He wants it for his own power and glory and cares little about the people. His own failure to pay taxes witnesses against his claim to champion the poor through government aid.

  • raxter54

    Why doesn’t Rangle ask that question when talking about abortion…

  • Finrod

    My first thought to ol’ Chuckles was what Jesus did to the moneychangers in the Temple: he grabbed a whip and drove them out. Would that we could do the same to the modern moneychangers in the Democratic Party.

    • http://jhpruitt.blogtownhall.com/ kipling

      Driving the moneychangers from the Capital would make a great story and a good visual image. Perhaps with a caption: “You have turned an institution dedicated to democracy and the government of free men into a den of thieves dedicated to enslavement and oppression.” Some days I wish I was a cartoonist.

  • http://jhpruitt.blogtownhall.com/ kipling

    Neither Jesus nor the early church advocated state sponsored social welfare.

    Paul wrote that he primary duty of taking care of widows and orphans belonged to the family. (1 Timothy 5:3-16) He said nothing about state involvement. The church only became involved if the family proved unwilling – in which case the family was treated as worse than unbelievers. The widows supported by the church were to be true widows, godly widows, and not busybodies or welfare mamas.

    In 2 Thessalonians 3:10, Paul laid down a simple rule: “If anyone will not work, neither shall he eat.” He went on to elaborate. “For we hear that there are some who walk among you in a disorderly manner, not working at all, but are busybodies. Now those who are such we command and exhort through our Lord Jesus Christ that they work in quietness and eat their own bread.” (3:11-12)

    Christianity and western civilization has always held a high opinion of work and dim view of those who did not.

    In Leviticus 19:15 Moses weighed in on the issue of favoring either the rich or the poor. “You shall do no injustice in judgment. You shall not be partial to the poor, nor honor the person of the mighty. In righteousness you shall judge your neighbor.” How righteous is it to steal the fruits of someone’s labor to fund the indulgence of others?

    The Founding Fathers knew that slaves were the only people who could not keep the fruit of their labor. It is why they opposed taxation without representation. Today we have a major party bent on confiscating wealth to fund dependents of the state. Jesus came to set the captive free, not to enslave him to a secular government and a group of secular elites who only worship their own power. (Luke 4:18)

    • lineholder

      in Acts 6:1, there is an example of an argument that arose because of “unequal distribution”. This is what led to the establishment of deacons in the Christian church, as “problem-solvers”, with Stephen being among the first deacons.

      • http://jhpruitt.blogtownhall.com/ kipling

        Yes, from the beginning the church provided a social safety net for believers. Paul later provided guidelines regarding those who could use the safety net. The church appointed deacons to manage the situation. Paul later worked to define the office of deacon in the local church. (1&2 Timothy)

        Sharing amongst believers was never state sponsored or compulsory. Nor was Acts 6 or Acts 4:32-37 the foundation of communism as some leftists have claimed.

        • lineholder

          only that even back then, the whole concept of equal vs. unequal distribution caused dissension and conflict. That’s always been the way of it, and modern socialists prey on that dissension and conflict.

          • http://jhpruitt.blogtownhall.com/ kipling

            Being familiar with your posts, I never thought you meant to imply that it was. I just thought you were opening a door for further elaboration in case anyone else had thought otherwise. That is why I said “some leftists” in the last line. I would never include you as a leftist.

            I had this issue come up in a Bible study a few months ago. It is amazing how far leftist propaganda has penetrated our society, even the church.

          • rightwingmom52

            ?There are six things which Jehovah hates; Yea, seven which are an abomination unto him: Haughty eyes, a lying tongue, And hands that shed innocent blood; A heart that deviseth wicked purposes, Feet that are swift in running to mischief, A false witness that uttereth lies, And he that soweth discord among brethren? (Proverbs 6:16-19).

            This doesn’t tie in directly to the point you were making, but clearly exposes Rangle for the hypocrite he is. The left tries to use the Bible to suit their own purposes, not in the way for which it is intended, but they forget how well versed we clingers are which leaves them caught up in a web of their own making.

          • http://jhpruitt.blogtownhall.com/ kipling

            And also an apt description of Rangel and most of the Democrats.

  • Uma Richie

    And I think it would be very helpful if Jesus would be a guest at his House (of Representatives).

    Ref. Luke 19: 1-10

    • raxter54

      I agree. After all, Jesus spent most of his time ministering to the dregs of society, so he would feel right at home…

  • SoFiMil

    By a statistically significant amount, conservatives *do* provide for the needy much more than liberals.

    http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2008/03/conservatives_more_liberal_giv.html

    And of course, there’s Mr. Compassion, Al Gore, who gave a whopping $353 and his tax paying patriot Joe Biden, who sacrificed $369 according to previously released tax returns.

    • SoFiMil

      http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2008/03/conservatives_more_liberal_giv.html

  • http://www.ArchitecturalShots.com mdyou

    …but it’s always appropriate – another ‘self-licking dog feces ice cream cone’. Like it or not, it’s a truthful reply to any story about any liberal position.

  • loganyung

    It seems to me that the only approach left for the Republicans is to feed Obama and the Democrats a reduced calorie diet.

    There are a little over 5 quarters left before the election. Let’s have a clean debt ceiling increase each quarter that funds the government at 2006 levels. Let’s have a clear and public message sent to Obama that this is all the money that the government will get, and that he damn well better spend it on only necessary items. The practice of using the government to fund his friends is over.

    I would find it extremely hard to imagine that he will veto a clean bill like this. Does an alcoholic turn down a airplane sized bottle of vodka in hopes of getting the 1.75 liter bottle? No, the alcoholic will always take the drink in the hopes that he will get more.

  • Menlo

    The reaction would be quite different had a Republican called on clergy to “forcefully express themselves as well as I know they can do.” We’d never hear the end of it if a conservative had said, “the issues that are going to be discussed this weekend involve spiritual, moral issues.?

    I would like to know, by their party’s logic, how helping the “poor” and “homeless” (besides the fact they never actually do so) does not violate the establishment clause?

  • http://travismonitor.blogspot.com Freedoms Truth

    Yes, Charlie listen to the words of Holy Scripture and the folly of being a debtor:

    Proverbs 22:7 says: ?The rich rule over the poor, and the borrower is servant to the lender.?

    Psalm 37:21, ?The wicked borrows and does not pay back, but the righteous is gracious and gives.?

    Deuteronomy 28:43-45 says: ?The alien who lives among you will rise above you higher and higher, but you will sink lower and lower. He will lend to you, but you will not lend to him. He will be the head, but you will be the tail. All these curses will come upon you. They will pursue you and overtake you until you are destroyed, because you did not obey the LORD your God and observe the commands and decrees he gave you.?

    Not a good fate, Charlie. a blessed nation doesnt borrow:
    Deuteronomy 15:6
    For the Lord your God will bless you as He has promised you, and you will lend to many nations, but you will not borrow; and you will rule over many nations, but they will not rule over you.

    Charlie, only a fool enacts programs that he cant afford to pay for to completiong – are you a fool? ..

    Luke 14:28-30
    “For which of you, intending to build a tower, does not sit down first and count the cost, whether he may have enough to finish it; lest perhaps, after he has laid the foundation and is not able to finish, all those seeing begin to mock him, saying, This man began to build and was not able to finish.”

    Last reminder – pay your taxes:
    Ecclesiastes 5:5
    It is better that you should not vow than that you should vow and not pay.

  • Wayne

    political showmanship. I would suggest Congressman Rangel is as insincere as his plea is ill informed with respect to what Jesus would do.

    All commands from Jesus, speaks to the individual. And, that is the place for openhandedness. Not government.

    Unfortunately, As an individual, Mr. Rangel’s reputation would demonstrate he is not “openhanded” as Jesus “commanded” him to be. In his religious zeal his piousness becomes transparent as he has found that it is much easier to give away other peoples money. He does so not out of charity, but for selfish reasons only.

    If one wants benefits with no moral or ethical strings attached. One best get it from someone who’s only requirement is a vote.

  • johnt

    but being twisted, mount their soap boxes to hector the Normal on their supposed duty to replace their faith with that of government, So they relate and equate the two. The Left despises Christianity, it’s a rival to their own bizarre worship of power and the State.
    Being half crazy at best, compared to the rest, old Charlie believes what he says. No introspection, no self knowledge. Somethings are to ugly to be examined.

    • http://www.examiner.com/x-1597-Charlotte-Law--Politics-Examiner Mike gamecock DeVine

      to their liking

      • http://jhpruitt.blogtownhall.com/ kipling

        to serve their own purposes.

        • http://www.examiner.com/x-1597-Charlotte-Law--Politics-Examiner Mike gamecock DeVine

          atheists tell us that if there were a God, then said God would “obviously” do x and not allow y!

          • johnt

            There is no difference. Yes, one wears a robe and the other sits in Washington but apart from that? There is a conjunction here, these lunatics actually equate what they do with the Almighty. Power twists the mind, and Render unto Caesar has no limitations or room for competition, God gets cut out of the take.
            Now allah is a different story,

  • BigRedConservative

    Equating Jesus and Moses (both men) with Allah (a supernatural deity) just betrays his ignorance of foreign culture. And I’m not even a Moslem.

    And for the record, I know Jesus is part of the Holy Trinity, but it is essential to Christianity that Jesus died like a man.

  • gkendall

    Jesus would NOT hide $90K in his fridge.

  • aesthete

    and is enchanted with appropriating God and His Book to advocate for his policies — heck, Communist China has official Christian “churches” at its beck and call, and Hugo Chavez invokes Jesus more often than he does Marx! Of course, when church membership gets those funny ideas about “sin” and “responsibility”, as is their wont and their calling, the relationship between the compelling truth of the Word and the facsimile that politicians in general (but leftists in specific) have devised becomes clear.

    • http://www.examiner.com/x-1597-Charlotte-Law--Politics-Examiner Mike gamecock DeVine

      than any other figure in the Bible.

      • JSobieski

        “better for him never to have been born”

        I have spent many hours trying to fully digest that particular statement.

        • http://jhpruitt.blogtownhall.com/ kipling

          The phrase used in Matthew 26:24 refers to Judas who betrayed the Son of God.

          Another tough one is Matthew 18:6 where Jesus says that if someone causes one of His little ones [believers] to stumble that it would be better to have a millstone tied around his neck and be drowned in the sea. The verse is repeated in Mark and Luke.

          Rangel should be very cautious about speaking for God and trying to lead believers astray. The Lord is not too gentle with wolves disguising themselves as shepherds to mislead the flock.

          • rightwingmom52

            the very nature of God and his son in that for the most part, they totally ignore Jehovah God of the O.T. who destroyed the earth by flood, Sodom & Gomorrah by fire and punished Israel over and over. Each of these things was done because of sin. Then we have Jesus in the N.T. who indeed teaches us of love and mercy. What they ignore is that Jesus was in the beginning with God (John 1:1-3; 10:30) as was the Holy Spirit. God cannot act against his own nature. Therefore, God’s actions in the O.T. were taken fully and completely with the knowledge and support (for lack of a better word) of the Son. Likewise, the love and mercy demonstrated by Jesus comes from his Father. The nature of God encompasses love, mercy and grace beyond measure, but also, a just and everlasting punishment for those who would reject, disobey or pervert his will.

        • http://www.examiner.com/x-1597-Charlotte-Law--Politics-Examiner Mike gamecock DeVine

          support NOT raising the debt ceiling? Didn’t you start out there and what is your desire now? Plus, don’t you think that it is at least a good thing that it looks like we are not going to cave on taxes?

          • JSobieski

            My position on the subject hasn’t changed. Welcome aboard. I know that the day of reckoning cannot be delayed indefinitely, but I am confident that we can go several weeks if not a few months past August 2nd before the wheels truly start to fall off.

            The big question in my mind is exactly how aggressive Obama would be in purposely impacting certain things in a negative way. For example, would Obama purposely withhold SS checks instead of say slow paying fed government vendors?

          • http://www.examiner.com/x-1597-Charlotte-Law--Politics-Examiner Mike gamecock DeVine

            I suspect that bondholders could panic because while they know Obama COULD pay all public debts forever; that he would be likely to precipitate a crisis on purpose by defaulting on bonds. The GOP would have to be laying the groundwork via public arguments to make sure they don’t get blamed and this they simply don’t have the guts or skill to do, I fear.

            PS, I hope also to do a 180 on not being an ahole to ‘skis! Great to have you back friend.

          • aesthete

            There’s no chance that Obama will pass up a chance to scaremonger for the purpose of driving scared old people to the polls. It’s crass and tactless, as well, pretty much guaranteeing that his administration won’t be able to pass it up.

            I am seriously hoping that the GOP has more strategy than “curl up into the fetal position and hope this all goes away”. I think that many of the Reps (even the Tea Party ones!) are hoping that the Tea Party is just a passing trend, and that it will die out if they just ride out the storm. This seems to be especially true of the leadership: Boehner and Cantor, specifically, have been playing footsie with this issue for a while now. IMO, the Tea Party will have to make some more heads roll this upcoming season, as well as have a hand in nominating the next GOP nominee for President. If we’re to have hope of dealing with entitlements in an orderly fashion, the Tea Party movement needs to have good faith representatives in DC, and I see precious few of those today.

  • agentilis

    if he continues this tack.

    1 Corinthians 16:1 – 2

    [1] Now concerning the collection for the saints, as I have given order to the churches of Galatia, even so do ye.
    [2] Upon the first day of the week let every one of you lay by him in store, as God hath prospered him, that there be no gatherings when I come.

    The way I see this is that I have earthly obligations that I must meet (food, bills, home, retirement, etc.). These obligations include paying my taxes. After my obligations, the rest goes to the church.

    Therefore, by proposing higher taxes for anybody, he’s taking money away from the churches. Taking money from the churches also takes money from the charitable services that they provide. Which means that the government will be looked upon to make up the difference. Where will it stop?

    We may want to be pressing the clergy to think clearly on this issue.