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The Return of the Lunch Bunch

That didn’t take long. Charlie Bass and other Republican “moderates” are already polluting the new House Republican majority.

In yesterday’s Washington Post, Bass—the former head of the Republican Main Street Partnership, which is made up of typically economically and socially liberal Republicans—attempts to balance out the perception that the freshmen are all conservative. He guesses that up to 50 of them will attend Tuesday Group meetings. The Tuesday Group, or the “Lunch Bunch” as it used to be called, is the Congressional sister organization to the Main Street Partnership, and if Bass is correct about the attendance numbers, that is a horrifying sign of things to come.

Another so-called moderate, Charlie Dent said that the Tuesday Group would “help provide some perspective and balance.” Perspective and balance should be read as compromise with liberals, refuse to draw clear distinctions between the parties, and avoid any action that conservatives have long proposed.

According to the article:

The key to keeping moderates in office, centrist lawmakers said, will be for the leadership to recognize that every district is different and to refrain from forcing lawmakers from tough districts into votes they can’t defend back home.

For a moment, ignore the fact that the country faces extremely tough times and needs Congressmen with the courage to take and explain tough votes. Instead, recognize this is the first line of moderate speak—don’t make me take a tough vote. The next line will be that you should not take any tough votes, because it has negative repercussions for me back home, since I have to be associated with all of you knuckle-dragging, conservative Neanderthals. The final pitch will be when they demand the House schedule and pass bad legislation at their behest to save them electorally. Slowly, as the Leadership begins to listen to this incessant chirping, momentum and courage fade and defeatism and status quo reign within the entire Republican majority.  And then you get a wave election of voter dissatisfaction against all Republicans that wipes every one out.

Sound extreme? If you go to the Main Street Partnership’s website, they admit that they were founded specifically to thwart the legislative momentum of the Class of 1994.

The November 1994 mid-term elections were commonly referred to as the “Republican Revolution.” Given the great gains made by Republicans in the U.S. House of Representatives and the Senate, a group of moderate House Republicans began informal meetings to discuss ways to further a centrist, pragmatic Republican agenda — one that could accommodate bipartisan legislative results. At that time, there was great concern that a dramatic shift to the right was quickly approaching, given the new congressional leadership.

And indeed they did. It was Chris Shays who gave us campaign finance reform in the House. It was Mike Castle who gave us embryonic stem cell research. It was Nancy Johnson who helped write the Medicare prescription drug benefit. It was the Lunch Bunch that blocked budgets that attempted to reign in spending when Republicans were in control.

Many of these moderates will argue that they are fiscally-conservative deficit hawks, and that they have much in common with the tea party movement that just elected them. But ask them whether they’re ready to balance the budget and talk specifics by reforming Medicare and Medicaid and most will likely beg off (as evidence by their votes against the Republican budget last year).  

House Republicans need to reject the wisdom of the Lunch Bunchers—it’s been shown to be bankrupt before and it will again. Voters selected Republicans in droves because they were willing to get spending and government under control. Now is not the time to go soft on them.

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  • AceInTX

    like I have been over the last 3 years when I report on groups like the Tuesday Group, the Republican Main Street Partnership, The Republican Leadership Counsel, Green Republicans and Republicans for Environmental Protection.

    Most of these “LIBERAL” Republican groups have PACs that were established from money given them by George Soros…

    That’s right…George Soros….Open Secrets shows funds going to RMSP pack when it was founded several years ago.

    but what do I know…I’m just a conspiracy kook for pointing it out…and before you know it..they’ll be calling you one too

    • AceInTX

      or they mught even call you my “Sancho Panza”….which has been done here…

      heh

  • jakota

    when you come to realize that the enemy is within?

    • AceInTX
  • Ausonius

    Quote:

    “…typically economically and socially liberal Republicans…”

    Why is the word “Republicans” in that sentence?

    What could possibly keep them in the party?

    • gunsrus

      “you just want to be one the side thats winning” …
      Bob Dylan, Positively 4th street

  • Locke

    again in the 2012 primary. [2010 results were Bass 43%, Horn 35% Giuda 17%, others 5%].

  • Locked and Loaded

    Who are the ones to watch?

    U.S. Senate
    Sen. Susan Collins, Maine
    Sen. Mark Kirk, Illinois
    Sen. John McCain, Arizona
    Sen. Olympia Snowe, Maine

    U.S. House
    Rep. Steve Austria, Ohio
    Rep. Roscoe Bartlett, Maryland
    Rep. Charlie Bass, New Hampshire
    Rep. Judy Biggert, Illinois
    Rep. Brian Bilbray, California
    Rep. Mary Bono Mack, California
    Rep. Ken Calvert, California
    Rep. Dave Camp, Michigan
    Rep. Shelley Moore Capito, West Virginia
    Rep. Charlie Dent, Pennsylvania
    Rep. Mario Diaz-Balart, Florida
    Rep. David Dreier, California
    Rep. Jo Ann Emerson, Missouri
    Rep. Mike Fitzpatrick, Pennsylvania
    Rep. Rodney Frelinghuysen, New Jersey
    Rep. Jim Gerlach, Pennsylvania
    Rep. Nan Hayworth, New York
    Rep. Richard Hanna, New York
    Rep. Lynn Jenkins, Kansas
    Rep. Leonard Lance, New Jersey
    Rep. Steven LaTourette, Ohio
    Rep. Chris Lee, New York
    Rep. Jerry Lewis, California
    Rep. Frank LoBiondo, New Jersey
    Rep. Thaddeus McCotter, Michigan
    Rep. Candice Miller, Michigan
    Rep. Tim Murphy, Pennsylvania
    Rep. Erik Paulsen, Minnesota
    Rep. Thomas Petri, Wisconsin
    Rep. Todd Platts, Pennsylvania
    Rep. Tom Reed, New York
    Rep. Dave Reichert, Washington
    Rep. Aaron Schock, Illinois
    Rep. Steve Stivers, Ohio
    Rep. Lee Terry, Nebraska
    Rep. Patrick Tiberi, Ohio
    Rep. Michael Turner, Ohio
    Rep. Fred Upton, Michigan
    Rep. Greg Walden, Oregon
    Rep. Ed Whitfield, Kentucky
    Rep. Frank Wolf, Virginia

    If they don’t straighten up and fly right (pun intended), we need to really put the Alinsky to their a…

    • red_oakster

      First, your list includes people like Walden and Schrock, which tells me you haven’t done your homework.

      Red State can play a critical role in encouraging primary challenges where it makes sense. But complaining when a New York of Pennsylvania representative who represents a swing district “only” votes with you 70% of the time or differs with us social conservatives, it’s worse than stupid. It’s a mistake. The alternative is a Democrat will vote with us 10% of the time and 0% when it matters. Do the math. If there are 30 such members in the caucus and you can win 15-20 of those votes each time a conservative proposal goes to the floor of the House, that’s a lot better than zero.

      Instead, focus on solid Republican districts where members are not pursuing a constitutional conservative agenda of limited government and an assertive promotion of American ideals and interests abroad. La Tourette is well to the left of his district. John Mica is a porker who is trying to increase our national debt by continuing the terrible Build America Bonds program. These are guys who deserve robust primary challengers.

      If we can get to the point where we have solid conservatives in solid GOP districts and 70 per centers in battleground districts in blue states, we’ll have a working conservative majority.

      • Locked and Loaded

        I asked, ” Who are the ones to watch?”

        No more homework is needed where this post is concerned.

        Still, I believe in a furthering conservative ascendancy. The argument about putting up with less-than is getting very tiresome.

      • AceInTX

        read their web site…read the description of what they stand for and why the exist…

        They are Liberals to the core…they profess to be Socially Liberal but fiscally conservative…but their voting records say something else…most of them are also affiliated with the Tuesday Group which is a croup of congressmen who meet on one or a couple Tuesdays every month to plot and scheme how they can undermine the conservatives in the Republican Caucus and drag it to the left…

        Then there is the Republicans for Environmental Protection who are a collection of envirowackos in the mold of Al Gore…many of the same vermin on the rolls of the RMSP and the Tuesday Group are members of this pro Cap and Trade supporting, environmentalist organization…

        add to that the RIPON Society which is a group of Teddy Roosevelt loving envirowackos, statists and internationalists.

        And I’d be remiss if I left out Christi Tod Whitman and Michael Steele’s Republican Leadership Conference….

        All are left of center Republican groups set up to undermine every aspect of the conservative agenda with the possible exception of tax cuts….and is a large part of why it’s daXXed near impossible for the Republicans in Congress and the Senate to pass any paret of the conservative agenda…

        so go ahead…call us stupid…call us short sighted…give us your talking points about someone who votes witgh us 70% of the time is better than zero…all I hear is:

        • concap

          Republicans on the left of center, they are left-right wing.
          http://www.buzzle.com/articles/what-is-political-spectrum.html

          Most of the political spectrum is moving right of center.

          The left-right wing has become saturated with blue dog and other moderate Democrats

          • AceInTX

            I mean…this post is about a bunch of fifth column statists in the Republican Party and I can’t see what your posts has to do with any of that?

          • http://www.hakubi.us/ Neil Stevens

            The independents tend to be libertarian squishes, not committed activists for anything.

          • concap

            Sorry
            I thought he was implying there are some Republican groups left of center. I was just stating they are not left of center just left-right.

          • edintexas

            My responses to your post under “Repeal is Real”. Somehow we have a basic misunderstanding of terms. Possibly I, and presumably others, fail to understand your position. Or possibly you have read something which gives you a misunderstanding of the Conservative movement. Certainly, with people like Peggy Noonan, et al, around the movement, that is possible.

          • concap

            You are correct about a misunderstanding.

            Perhaps, if you have time, please read my profile all the way through and you will know what kind of Conservative you are talking to.

            Maybe this would help clear up some things.

      • miroco

        IF we were going to let any more namby pamby Yankees in. I so much hate the Snowes and Collins of this country that I would sooner do without. We got Sheila Jackson Lee and a couple of other loons and eventually we got Black guys realizing they were Republicans or at least TeaPartiers all along. This “Get Along” garbage is what set us back from natural progression.

        • AceInTX
        • acat

          but after sitting outside in 90 degree weather and hearing from my potential neighbors how nice and cool it was …cat has decided to remain in the North, but wish y’all the best of luck.

          Mew

    • Locke

      U.S. House
      Rep. Brian Bilbray, California
      Rep. Mary Bono Mack, California
      Rep. Ken Calvert, California
      Rep. David Dreier, California
      Rep. Jerry Lewis, California
      Rep. Mario Diaz-Balart, Florida
      Rep. Judy Biggert, Illinois
      Rep. Aaron Schock, Illinois
      Rep. Lynn Jenkins, Kansas
      Rep. Ed Whitfield, Kentucky
      Rep. Roscoe Bartlett, Maryland
      Rep. Dave Camp, Michigan
      Rep. Thaddeus McCotter, Michigan
      Rep. Candice Miller, Michigan
      Rep. Fred Upton, Michigan
      Rep. Erik Paulsen, Minnesota
      Rep. Jo Ann Emerson, Missouri
      Rep. Lee Terry, Nebraska
      Rep. Charlie Bass, New Hampshire
      Rep. Rodney Frelinghuysen, New Jersey
      Rep. Leonard Lance, New Jersey
      Rep. Frank LoBiondo, New Jersey
      Rep. Richard Hanna, New York
      Rep. Nan Hayworth, New York
      Rep. Chris Lee, New York
      Rep. Tom Reed, New York
      Rep. Steve Austria, Ohio
      Rep. Steven LaTourette, Ohio
      Rep. Steve Stivers, Ohio
      Rep. Patrick Tiberi, Ohio
      Rep. Michael Turner, Ohio
      Rep. Greg Walden, Oregon
      Rep. Mike Fitzpatrick, Pennsylvania
      Rep. Jim Gerlach, Pennsylvania
      Rep. Charlie Dent, Pennsylvania
      Rep. Tim Murphy, Pennsylvania
      Rep. Todd Platts, Pennsylvania
      Rep. Frank Wolf, Virginia
      Rep. Dave Reichert, Washington
      Rep. Shelley Moore Capito, West Virginia
      Rep. Thomas Petri, Wisconsin

    • cam1

      Saxby Chambliss and Johnny Isakson both from Georgia to that list.

      • rightwingmom52

        They may not officially be part of the group, but they are not conservative.

  • http://www.buckforcolorado.com bjwilson83

    We will never succeed in fully controlling the GOP and getting a conservative agenda enacted. I hope we can have a Tea Party caucus with members from both parties, maybe even from third parties. Another reason to start looking at other options is that it will scare the pants off of the GOP and keep them in line. We can’t reward the GOP for tolerating behavior like this anymore, like we did after the Republican revolution in 1994.

    • AceInTX

      because of we have a group of left leaning Rrepublicans…makes total sense to me

      /sarc

      • sparkyva

        My TEA party chairman was an old time Democrat. She didn’t leave the Democratic party, the party left her. We are united for fiscal responsibility, constitutional government, and free market solutions. Violence and calls for violence are not tolerated. Come join us.

        • http://908StraightSt.wordpress.com/ mbecker908

          Democrats are the enemy. Every last one of ‘em. We should be working on strategies to target every elected Democrat at every level and our goal should be be to crush and destroy them politically, professionally and personally. Good would be the day that they fear to show their face in public for scorn of their neighbors.

          • MF

            Yes, Democrats are the enemy. Yes, they need to be destroyed politically. But when you continue with “professionally and personally,” that is where I draw the line. I could sort of understand how you might be able to justify destroying them professionally, because if that happens, they have no money in order to be able to run for office or contribute to like-minded candidates.

            But under no circumstances should we go after them personally. That is the attitude that Democrats have (destroy us in every facet) that is so wrong with today’s politics. We need to separate these actions.

          • AceInTX

            and you stumbled into why he’s right with this:

            That is the attitude that Democrats have (destroy us in every facet)

            you don’t deal with people who are out to destroy you utterly by making nice with them…it’s not till you’ve taken their boot off your neck…and put your boot firmly on their neck that you can get them to see things your way.

            Look at Israel’s failures with the Palestinians over these 60 years….they’ll go on the offensive….they put the terrorists on their backs who then start behaving and make nice…then use the time they gain by making nice to rebuild their strength, rethink their strategies, and devise more effective ways of killing Jews…

          • MF

            I just believe that the boot on the neck must be politically speaking and not personally. And I agree completely that what Israel has been doing is a completely losing strategy. (And I’m 100% behind Israel – pray for the peace of Jerusalem… Oh, and these poor Palestinian refugees are mere political pawns of the Arabs, no fault of Israel at all, but I don’t mean to threadjack here.) I don’t think it’s a similar comparison. Israel doesn’t try to destroy the Palestinians politically, they merely try to seek peace (for which we both know there will never be peace until Jesus returns).

            Bringing it back to our current political situation, these so-called moderate Republicans are acting like Israel, in that they want to play nice and compromise, apparently failing to realize that to the Democrats, the compromise is merely a temporary truce to replenish the ammunition and await the time when they have more power. This approach from the RINOs is quite different from trying and wanting to destroy your opponent politically — unless you believe that if you don’t destroy them personally as well, you can’t destroy them politically.

            I agree 100% with your (and MBecker’s) passion and desire to destroy them politically. I believe it can (and should) be done without doing it personally as well.

          • http://908StraightSt.wordpress.com/ mbecker908

            Cut the deal to make ObamaCare happen, went home and got run out of a pizzeria by the good citizens of his home town. I’m really good if he can never show his face in public again.

          • AceInTX

            then I call “No Quarter asked…No Quarter given”

            We always play fair with the Dems while they work incessantly to destroy us. That’s how they win.

            We need to have the same attitude…destroy them and their ability to destroy us…

            I’m not speaking in terms of violence…but from a political and metaphorical perspective…we are given no choice

          • AceInTX

            they are worse than the Dems IMHO in that they are trying to destroy us from within…

          • lineholder

            but I’m genuinely hoping that you don’t mean this literally. Perhaps this was a comment made in the heat of a moment?

            I’ve seen someone who was basically a good and decent person let themselves be consumed by a desire for vengeance. They wanted to see someone else pay, to make them suffer, to strip them down to nothing, not even the slightest shred of dignity. This was the desire of their heart above and beyond anything else.

            For two years, they let it consume their life, Becker. TWO YEARS. Did it bring them happiness or joy? No. Was it something that they could respect themselves for doing? No. It ate away at that person until they became bitter. And the bitterness destroyed the relationships they had with friends and family.

            How much of good could that person have accomplished in those two years if they had responded to it differently?

            I respect you very much, Becker, and I just don’t want to see you take the same path that this other person took, okay?

          • http://908StraightSt.wordpress.com/ mbecker908

            personal. Democrats, with the active help of some Republicans, are working to actively destroy this country. There needs to be a price for that. For instance, right after the ObamaCare fiasco the so-called Blue Dog Senator from Nebraska went home. He and his wife went out for a pizza with some friends and were literally hounded out of the pizzaria by the good citizens of Nebraska. I think that is absolutely appropriate.

            There’s no bitterness or hatred involved. No retribution. Just a simple application of the idea that actions have consequences. Harry Reid, Nancy Pelosi, etal have no place in public life and I’m perfectly happy to see them ostracized in the extreme for what they’ve done and are trying to do.

          • lineholder

            I hope you don’t mind my asking, but you have such a positive influence for us as conservatives and I want it to go on being that way.

            Call me selfish!!!

          • http://908StraightSt.wordpress.com/ mbecker908

            I’m humbled (really).

    • concap

      Most of the political spectrum is moving right of center.

      The left-right wing has become saturated with blue dog and other moderate Democrats

      • http://www.buckforcolorado.com bjwilson83

        Social conservatives don’t get pushed out.

        • concap

          right they don’t.

          I’msure it was just an oversight.

          I said:

          “with the hard core Socialist Party pushed out all together”

          • http://www.buckforcolorado.com bjwilson83
      • rightwingmom52

        who would ever align with Democrats – blue-dog, moderate or otherwise. And I know a lot of social conservatives. We don’t like RINO’s either.

        • acat

          who vote Democrat every time.

          They’re a little more rare these days, but they do exist.

          Mew

    • http://www.hakubi.us/ Neil Stevens

      This is a conservative and Republican site.

      If you want to make nicey nice with Democrats or tin foil third parties, then there are other sites for that.

      • http://www.buckforcolorado.com bjwilson83

        The diarist himself said Tea Partiers should even take over the green and communist parties. Why don’t you focus on that if you have a problem with it. I am a conservative first and foremost, and a Republican if the GOP doesn’t desert conservative principles. Lately I’m starting to wonder.

        • http://www.buckforcolorado.com bjwilson83

          But if you’re concerned about it you should go talk to that guy.

  • gunsrus

    Already we couldn’t leave with the one who brought us.
    It didn’t take long before the media started stacking the deck for moderate candidates who take reasonable positions.

  • politicalqrm

    know that Charlie Bass is a moderate, in spite of his conservative TV ads during the last election. I knew he would be up to his old tricks after the election. As a matter of fact, 2 days after the primary he wrote a column on the RMSP website lauding those “centrist Republicans” who helped push through the latest financial reform bill.

    http://www.republicanmainstreet.org/index.php/pressreleases/detail/id/21%C2%A0

    .Hmmmmm, wonder if a recall is possible….

    http://politicalqrm.com

  • napensnake

    The reason a political party should try to gain a majority is to pass their agenda. Charlie Bass is saying that Republicans should shy away from difficult votes because it could cause problems back home. That is gutless and wrongheaded.

    What is the point of having a Republican majority if they aren’t voting to forward a Republican agenda?

    I heard a Republican Congressman on the radio yesterday saying that the vote to repeal Obamacare, even though it wouldn’t pass in the Senate, was to show the people back home that they are serious. Personally, I don’t want a “show.” I want results. Don’t worry about public opinion, DO WHAT IS RIGHT! I don’t vote to send a “vote whore” to DC. I vote to send a representative. I want to be represented.

    The real test will come when the House budgets funding for the Departments of Education, Labor, Health and Human Services, and all the other unconstitutional misuses of government. That isn’t on the radar screen. Will Republicans do the right thing, or make excuses? If those departments continue to be funded at the rates they currently are funded, the “Republican” majority is meaningless and we will have to realize that we need to elect Americans rather than politicians.

  • billybaa

    Demoncrats are Socialists
    Conservatives are Americans

  • miroco

    Dems, Traitorcrats, and the Coward in Thief are the enemy, they are scum. They hate you and they are sneaking liars who prefer to hit you from behind. Those used to be stated in jest, at least hyperbole, now they are proven true, what a shame. I have never liked a liberal but I used to hope that one day I could abide one. Now I don’t even want one in my state.

  • Mike Krempasky

    Would be great to recruit folks to report on some of these caucus meetings, especially those that pose a real challenge to conservative governance.

  • inathanael

    Sometimes we minimize the impact of showing up for public meetings or calling the office, but it’s the only way to get through to these moderates before the 2012 primary season. They need to be reminded why they were elected: to enact conservative policies, not drag the cause down to the middle.

  • http://www.billyockham.blogspot.com mousestalker

    I hate to disagree, but the first line and true meaning of any centrist politician’s message is “We have plenty of deposit slips for anyone who wants to make a donation. No amount is too large!”

  • walter_hanson

    I got an idea. If Bass is so proud of this group publish an attendance sheet.
    Than we know the 50 or so Republicans to have to focus on to help improve the performance of Congess by making these people unemployed

    Bass you were an ex-congressmn. Didn’t you learn why you became an ex-congressman? Apparently no!

    Walter Hanson
    Minneapolis, MN

  • BrendanW

    As someone who was out sticking signs in the ground till 4 AM the night before election: expect to be “primary’d” Charlie.

    If we had to lose an election in NH, why did it have to be Stephens instead of Bass?

  • carolina

    How many TEA party read this site? Is there a way to communicate the above list of ‘moderates’ to the TEA party folks in their districts? (though they probably were not the tea party candidates to start with)