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GOP House Intel Chair Thinks We Are No Better Than Animals

Representative Mike Rogers is the Chairman of the House Intelligence Committee. Clearly, “intelligence” is a term used very loosely, as his remarks regarding the release of Bin Laden photos make abundantly clear:

“The risks of release outweigh the benefits,” Rogers said. “Conspiracy theorists around the world will just claim the photos are doctored anyway, and there is a real risk that releasing the photos will only serve to inflame public opinion in the Middle East.”

“Imagine how the American people would react if Al Qaeda killed one of our troops or military leaders, and put photos of the body on the internet,” Rogers continued.

Oh, really Mr. Rogers? We dumb old rubes can’t control ourselves, I suppose. You are so much Better and Smarter Than Us ™. I mean, it’s not like we’ve seen thousands of American civilians killed by Jihadists. Good thing we all didn’t see pictures of innocent people on fire jumping to their own deaths, huh?

Jimmie Bise over at The Sundries Shack sums it up best:

The larger point is that it ought to insult the hell out of every Americans that Mike Rogers thinks us no better than the typical riot-prone Muslim in the Middle East, even though he has ample evidence this is not the case. How little must he think of you and I (and Muslims in general, but that’s another story) that he believes we have the same limits of self-control as people who murder innocents because some guy in Denmark drew a picture of Mohammed?

You know, I don’t care to find out. I don’t want to hear an apology from him. I just want him gone. He’s disgraced his nation, Congress, and the Republican Party. I can no longer trust him and neither should anyone else. Speaker Boehner…it’s on you now.

Exactly. How dare he? He is likely parroting President Obama’s reasoning which is still no excuse. Do not want. Grow a pair, will you? As Bise also points out, this genius is ignorant of even the most recent history. We have seen how Americans would react. See, contrary to Rogers’ beliefs, we are not intelligence-deficient nor are we barbaric animals.

The disdain in which the Washington elite holds average Americans is disgusting. And the esteem in which they hold multi-culturalism and moral relativism is now beyond just horrifying – it is dangerous. It’s the same page from Mayor Bloomberg’s book and Senators Reid and Graham’s book.

After first trying to pin the blame on “someone upset by the health care law”, Mayor Bloomberg fretted more about “backlash” against Muslims than an actual car bomb being set in Times Square. To him, we pesky hicks are so ignorant that we might take to the streets randomly assaulting people! Senators Reid and Graham blamed Terry Jones for riots that killed innocents; riots perpetrated by and only by Muslims. They went so far as to suggest that our Freedom of Speech be quashed lest we “trigger” more violence. By speaking. We are too irresponsible to have such rights. Now, we are too irresponsible and stupid to be given information.

You know what’s risky, Mr. Rogers? Evil barbarians. And the wilful ignorance on the part of our alleged leaders. Attempting to quash our our freedom of speech by having members of the American government condemn the exercise thereof does nothing to protect our troops or our country. Neither does withholding information from us by creating a disgusting rationale in which we are equated with barbarians.

In fact, it spits on the very freedoms for which our troops fight, and die.

This delusional moral equivalency is revolting and must end. The “risk”, Mr. Rogers, is if it does not.

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Cross-posted from That’s What She Said

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  • http://impudent.edublogs.org/ kyle8

    it isn’t like we haven’t already seen US soldiers bodies dragged through the street.

    Is it a beautiful day in your neighborhood?

    • gekster

      that happened after the four bodies were hung from a bridge in Iraq.
      The helecopter crew that was draggged through the streets of Magadishu.
      All the American muslums that we hicks beat because of just those two incidents.
      You just know that we can’t be trusted to keep our heads.

  • paramedichess

    I kind of feel like this is a lot of outrage over a fairly innocuous statement. He said “inflame public opinion” not “start a murderous riot.” If (and I understand that it has happened) terrorists killed a soldier and posted bloody pictures, it would inflame public opinion. You are correct to say that the American public has demonstrated far superior self-control than much of the Muslim world, but I doubt that Congressman Rodgers would deny that. We can have an honest debate as to whether releasing the photos is a wise decision or not, but the crazy emotionalism needs to simmer down. Our representatives spend plenty of time saying and more importantly doing stupid things that deserve criticism. Let’s not waste time nit-picking statements.

    • dalexgo67

      Rational voices are often in short supply here.

    • ss396

      This is the mindset that declines to publish cartoons;
      This is the mindset that pulled the South Park Mohammed episode;
      This is a mindset that is free to mock every religion, except Islam;
      This is the mindset that condones outreach to CAIR, the unindicted co-conspirator in terrorist fundraising;
      This is the mindset of compromised values;
      This is the mindset of victimization;
      This is a mindset that accords legitimacy to a culture of hatred;
      This is the mindset of self-censorship.

      This is not nitpicking; this is a way of life that is anathema to a free people. For a a sitting Representative to recommend such a thing is a violation of his Oath of Office. That Oath means a lot to me. What does it mean to you?

      • paramedichess

        How exactly does a belief that

        • ss396

          For a sitting Congressman to advocate against freedom of expression in prior restraint out of fear of potential consequences places blame, burden, and cause on the freedom rather than on the perpetrator of the violence. Congressman Rogers swore to uphold the freedom, not to curtail its expression.

          • utahrepublican

            Prior restraint is when government tells a person (including entities) that they can’t publish something. It has nothing to do with whether the government itself chooses to publish its own photos. If someone other than the government has photos, they are free to publish them (in fact, I expect wikileaks will get around to it soon enough). So the issue isn’t freedom of speech.

            Indeed, if any Constitutional issue is involved, it would be privacy. How would you react to a government rule that said you MUST publish any picture in your possession that someone else wants to see? Aren’t you in fact arguing that the government must publish the Osama photos because you want to see them?

            What is the real issue? According to Rogers it is whether the U.S. gains more from the publication than it looses. So what are the gains from publication?

            Is it the nation’s credibility? The insinuation that our fine military can’t be believed unless they “prove it” with photos is itself an insult to the outstanding integrity of our SEALS. Frankly, I have such little regard for the opinion of anyone who needs photos to believe that I don’t care if they believe. Especially since disbelief wont bring Osama back.

            Is it satisfaction of voyeurism? Anyone who enjoys photos of dead people has, in my humble opinion, a serious problem that should not be encouraged.

            Is it protection of free speech? As noted above, that is not at issue here.

            Is it to increase a sense of revenge or satisfy a juvenile desire to “rub it in?” Totally unworthy of the Jewish/Christian heritage of this country, and probably not worthy of any other significant religion (although I don’t know enough about the others to express an informed opinion).

            Is there some other advantage? I can’t think of one.

            What are the disadvantages? I think it is reasonable to believe that the release of the photos will cause innocent deaths. Indeed, given the actual deaths caused by cartoons, a false rumor of Korans flushed in a toilet and the mere threat of a Koran burning, it seems incredibly that anyone could doubt that the death of Osama (who is admired by many Arabs) will be used to cause more terrorist attacks.

            Certainly, some such terrorist attacks are already bound to occur, but there are two reasons why releasing the photos is likely to increase the number of attacks, First, I believe that there are some Muslims who will believe photos who will not believe mere news reports. Second, visual imagery carries an emotional impact (especially for men) that is not carried by oral or written statements. (A picture is worth 1,000 words?) With over a billion Muslims in the world, many of whom have demonstrated lack of self control, it seems highly probably that, for one or both of the above reasons, additional idiots will be recruited by the terrorists. Even one death of an innocent person, American, European, Arab, Asian or any other, is a higher price than I would pay to satisfy the voyeurs.

            So why is the conclusion that the benefits of release are not worth the risks such a controversial conclusion? I don’t understand.

      • 20jan2013
    • spainishirish

      “(o)ur representatives spend plenty of time saying and more importantly doing stupid things that deserve criticism.”

      Granted, this is indeed minor and not on par with the near-treasonous statements by Majority Leader Reid and Sen. Graham that some radical minister burning Korans should result in congressional hearings about how far the First Amendment should go. Nonetheless, when stupid things are said–particularly when they betray a profound ignorance–they need to be called out.

      It is a tempest in a teapot, but it does fit into a larger narrative of craven statements and actions to appease those who cannot be appeased in the name of political correctness.

    • The_Gadfly

      mischaracterizing the nature of the American people. The statement should result in condemnation of even a freshman congresscritter until he apologized. Coming from the Chairman of the House Intelligence committee it is simply inexcusable. He should be removed from his seat and replaced by someone with some actual intelligence.

      • paramedichess

        I understand what everyone is saying, but I am afraid that we are becoming exactly like the liberals who are constantly looking/listening for something to be offended about. They are always on a witch hunt for something that sounds racist or sexist, and we too often are on a witch hunt for something that sounds anti-american.

        • The_Gadfly

          who expect Americans to bend their knee and abase themselves because we have been the most prosperous nation on the planet for the last 70+ years. I’ve had it with race-baiters and all the rest of the street theater confidence artists who wantonly condemn ALL Americans as troglodytes. If that happens to include you, that’s too bad. I expect more and more Americans think about this the same way I do.

          Rogers statement is offensive on its face. Imagine? Imagine? No, I don’t have to imagine. That isn’t a hypothetical. It happened in that godforsaken African dessert. They bodies of US peacekeepers WERE dragged through the streets, their bodies paraded for the cameras. I EXPECT someone on the Intelligence committee not to simply KNOW that, I EXPECT them to live, eat, and breathe it. And if you live, eat and breathe it, you DON’T start with “Imagine” to describe something which is a historical FACT.

  • http://snarkandboobs.wordpress.com/ Lori Ziganto

    It is one statement, yes, but it is part of a larger picture of multiculturalism and moral relativism.. Therein lies the danger; it is the mindset some of our “leaders” are embracing.

    Furthermore, I don’t mind a little emotionalism. Nothing wrong with a bit of passion. I’ll fight like a girl :D

    • paramedichess

      I see your point, and I agree that there is a certain culture in Washington that needs to be avoided. Nevertheless, it is not helpful in the least when we blow things out of proportion. We expect of our leaders that they will stand up and be strong, but this is discouraged when we crucify them every time they step even a little out of line. When Bise demands Congressman Rogers’ ouster from Congress over this statement, that is absurd. There are points to be made on both sides of this debate, and freaking out over one statement is not helpful.

      • davesinsanantonio

        inane statement as the Congressman has to make it. But, the person who has a position of responsibility, and is an official of the government, needs to be more careful of his words and what the subtle messages are than the average citizen. Just sayin’.

  • rasvar

    Does it really matter if they think the bum is alive? He is now fish food. I’d rather they waste their time and fracture their networks by believing he is still alive.

    One way that We are better is that we do not have to parade our victories around beating out chests. The job is done. It is not time to go to the next mission. There is no advantage whatsoever in showing the photos. I dare say it is a strategic advantage to withhold and allow the seeds of dissent within the terrorists own organizations if some don’t think he is dead.

    • rasvar

      Dang autocorrect. It is NOW time to go to the next mission. Not not.

    • gunslingr45

      I am not a conspiracy theorist nut but does anyone else find the timing a little suspicious here? I would like to see the photos my self. Just to keep him honest, which I don’t think he can be.
      P.S. Keep in mind that he got a 11% jump in his poll numbers from it.

  • Nuclearnerd

    Never were his statements addressed to Americans. If you watch him on Fox this morning, he argues the potential risk to soldiers is too great if we release the photos. This post sounds more like the professional victims that we spend most our time arguing against. There are other things to worry about than creating a false outrage about a picture of a dead guy.

  • spainishirish

    There will be riots, attacks on troops, and bad blood flowing with or without release of these photographs. You also are right in your comment below the OP, Lori. This is one more pathetic and futile attempt to placate those who cannot be placated.

    I want the picture released and emblazoned on the bottom of my toilet.

    Now.

  • Adjoran

    - originally intended for Howard Dean, but in truth broadly applicable:

    “Consider the beauty of the unspoken thought.”

    • arthurmanger17

      Does Rogers believe that if you put to many people on an island it will tip over? How do screw balls like this get elected?

  • jraiffie

    Ummm, what a moron!
    You can’t fix stupid, but you can vote them out!

    I can’t count how many live videos were put online of the killing of Americans.

    If the photos are legitimate, they should be posted. We can’t do more to invite another attack…a photo or two are not going to make a bit of difference. They are already pissed off. Who cares. Not showing the photos is an act of weakness and Jihadist prey on weakness. The act of killing OBL in itself is all they need to move USA back to the top of their hit list.

    When willl this Administration grow a pair?

  • 20jan2013

    we have to deal with Democrat stupidity but to have our own Republican side spouting such nonsense makes me very angry.

    I am so over this RINO House leadership.

    • ihateliberals

      in your house? Then why do we want RINO’s in our house? It is and has been time to clean the House of RINO’s. To continue to have them is like having that many more Democrats. A RINO is not much better than a Democrat. It’s like having a snake hidden in your bed. when yougo to bed with it, it is going to bite you sooner or later.

  • bcomber38

    What a bunch of BS.Rogers is afraid of backlash?What the hell were we getting since the Cole.first tower attempt.9/11.all the other nice things coming from the muslims.So What.Show the pictures.I have seen one of the pictures already on an email I received.with a hole in his eye.wishy washy rogers

  • hertfordkc

    The decision should have been made before 0bama announced the raid. If the decision had been to release the photos, the photo would have announced the result.
    Now… how about giving the SEAL that thought that OBL was about to detonate, reach for a weapon or whatever at least half of the reward money. Consider how much he saved the taxpayers in court costs and lawyer fees.

  • ag8tor

    They have it so tough. Rodgers, they are NOT the religion of Peace like “O” says in his book. Even if he stands with them as he stated he would and he cottles them now, they are NOT going to like us! What part of “they want us dead” do you not understand? You and “O” just don’t get it. McCain proved that we can’t make nice with them or the Dems. You haven’t learned anything from 2008!

  • ihateliberals

    as to think anything can put our service people or ourselves in any more danger than we are right now. What is the deal with this? I guess Mr. Rogers has never severed his country or been in harm

  • aldutt9mm

    obummer ordered the hit any backlash from his muslim bros should be on him…that is of course it really happened just like his birth certififcate and all public records that we cant see..no pics will make these animals hate us any more than they already do…give it a rest please and start IMPEACHMENT NOW…

  • geah

    this effects only the elite in DC we the tax payers should fold our hands and say “if you say so” and pay more taxes and sent more of our family into the open mouth and raised fists of the next uprising.

    maybe it’s time for us to act up a wee bit,

  • ammagic

    if the word is “OBL” is dead, I believe it. Why do I need a picture. A lot of people die and I don’t see pictures. Is Elvis really dead? On the other hand I think a good general never needs to brag about what he has done. Keep the enemy in the dark. Let him wonder about what’s going on. It’s easier to fight a confused enemy then a enemy looking for revenge. Even when you don’t know what your doing you may guess correctly now and then. I think President Obama doesn’t have a clue but he guessed correctly this time.

  • annplato

    Seeing the picture of the monster DEAD and disfigured is TRUE closure. KNOWING he is dead is just not enough! NOT IN THIS CASE! I am not one into enjoying gore, but I am not afraid of it either. We have a right not only to KNOW, but to actually see too!

    Obama cares so much about the sensitivity and the volatility of the Muslims, that he denies the American people from having the much needed closure!

    Furthermore it is insulting and un-presidential to say that

  • rightwingmom52

    We have a Mike Rogers as rep in AL-3. I was ready to call his office and voice my opinion, so I googled “Miike Rogers Congressman” and a link to Congressman Mike Rogers Michigan popped up first. Figured out pretty quickly it was Michigan Mike rather than Alabama Mike who made the comments. My suggestion is it would be helpful to note where the reps are from when writing a diary. Thanks.