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John Brown’s Raid

I John Brown am now quite certain that the crimes of this guilty, land: will never be purged away; but with Blood. I had as I now think: vainly flattered myself that without very much bloodshed; it might be done.

Shortly after dusk on October 16, 1859 a party of eighteen heavily armed men, the self-styled Provisional Army of the United States, departed the Kennedy farm house in Washington County, Maryland. They made their way south, crossed the Potomac into Virginia at Harper’s Ferry. In short order they seized the B&O Railroad trestles crossing the Potomac and Shenandoah Rivers, the US Armory and Arsenal, the US Rifle Works, cut all telegraph access, and took hostage two prominent citizens.

Their objective was to ignite a slave rebellion in Virginia which would spread and destroy the institution of chattel slavery in the South.

John Brown’s Raid was as much a signal event in the nation’s inexorable slide towards civil war as Edmund Ruffin’s firing the first shot on Fort Sumter. It should be viewed as the death knell of the non-violent anti-slavery struggle in the United States.

The raid on the federal armory and arsenal at Harpers Ferry in effect acknowledged that the long series of compromises between pro- and anti-slavery factions, beginning with the Constitution, itself, and sequentially addressed in the Northwest Ordinance, the Missouri Compromise, the Compromise of 1850, and the Kansas-Nebraska Act had reached a logical impasse. The slave states had expanded to the geographical limits of financially viable slavery, assuming, arguendo, that slavery was ever truly financially viable, while the westward expansion of the United States made it inevitable that new free states would enter the Union and that eventually the South would not only be outvotedin the House but in also in the Senate.

Unfortunately, issues of fundamental justice don’t lend themselves to compromise. This series of compromises on the spread of slavery failed not because they were flawed, per se, but because they were generally the product of bad faith negotiations. Abolitionists were determined that slavery be abolished. Slavery proponents, while realizing that slavery would never be permitted in all states, were insistent that slavery be recognized as a legal institution even in abolitionist states. These bad faith compromises led to violence which ended slavery as an institution.

The civil war gave way to another conflict, this one over civil rights. It was every bit as expansive in scale as the slavery controversy and many of the same phases are recognizable. A series of compromises negotiated between adversaries acting in bad faith, violence, and collapse of an unjust legal regime. The violence was obviously more muted than the Civil War but violence or the promise of imminent violence underscored the era of civil rights protests.

Which leads me to the pro-life struggle in this nation.

Conservatively, a fifth of all pregnancies in this nation since Roe was declared to be law instead of a cruel parody on legal thinking have ended in abortion. At a minimum 40 million American children have been summarily executed. By any standard of morality this is a travesty. If the era of legal slavery saw 12 million Africans arrive in the New World in chains, leaving the bodies of as many as 4 million more in the Middle Passage, surely the deaths of over 10 million black children in just 36 years must count for something.

We see, today, the same pattern emerging. An unjust institution has led to bad faith compromises. Those compromises, in turn, frustrate both parties.

I’ll be the first to admit that I participate in this debate in bad faith. Abortion is unalterably and irredeemably evil. As long as it exists I will oppose it. Having said that, I am willing to accept abortion on a state-by-state basis because I know, just as the opponents of slavery knew, though the institution is unassailable nationally it is extraordinarily vulnerable locally. So, when I accept compromises that permit abortion, even abortion with strict limits, I do so only with a view towards ending abortion not achieving a modus vivendi with the supporters of infanticide.

As we’ve seen over the years, when the power of the state in used in defense of the indefensible, whether dogs and water cannon at Selma or the noxious, if comically named, Freedom of Access to Clinic Entrances Act, neither does the injustice become just nor do those opposing it go away.

We haven’t yet entered a phase of this struggle where violence is generally viewed by those of us who oppose abortion as either the only way, or even an acceptable way, to move forward. Even at its upward bounds, you are safer as an abortionist or living in an abortion clinic than you are in most of Washington, DC, Baltimore, Atlanta, Philadelphia, St. Louis, etc. Though one would have to be totally dishonest if one denied that even this low level of violence has probably contributed as much to the shortage of abortionists and the reduction of the number of abortion clinics as had any social opprobrium associated with the act of killing infants in utero.

And so the struggle continues.

Many of us, however, have long since passed the point of denouncing or even being concerned by the death of a Bernard Slepian or a George Tiller but haven’t yet reached the point of holding up their killers as heroes. We haven’t yet reached the point where a man like Paul Hill receives the kind of eulogy that sparks others to emulate him.

All historical analogies are somewhat forced as the human condition is anything but a static one. One could argue, I suppose, that our present day struggle be seen by future generations as the equivalent of Bleeding Kansas. And there is no doubt that the political compromises on slavery which foreshadowed the Civil War, however flawed they were, at least kept the hope of both sides alive while this present great moral question has been “settled” by a perversion of the judicial process and a bastardization of the Constitution leaving it festooned with penumbras and emanations hardly envisioned by neither the Founding Fathers nor anyone capable of reading English. This formula has made negotiation useless and requiring the appearance of some deus ex machina for our side to win the day.

Will we, metaphorically, reach the stage of a John Brown’s raid? Or will we be able to keep the movement within the bounds of civil disobedience? It took both the slavery and civil rights struggles a century to play out. We’ve only been at the ramparts for 36 years. The bitterness and aggravation haven’t had time to effervesce.

Seventy years hence I hope the pro-life movement can look back with pride on the fact that it never had to produce a John Brown to win the day.

COMMENTS

  • Xasteius

    One of them rode with Quantrill, and one defended Independence, MO as part of the Missouri State Guard (the Yankees did throw him off his land).

    I basically with you, Streiff, but why don’t I hear any noise from the national GOP about the states deciding the abortion question? Or are they, and I’m just unaware?

    • AceInTX

      as with the Whigs…no compromise is too great and no idea is too absurd to pursue in their vain efforts to appear to be more high minded and better than the rest of the unwashed masses they lord it over. for them…there is high principle that is worth fighting for and no soul that can’t be sold down the river or into the pits of hell so long as they are able to maintain “Peace” and order…but most importantly their perks and power!

      • http://www.hakubi.us/ Neil Stevens

        The Whigs had principles. They just had different priorities than the Republicans had.

        Your fixation with attacking the Republican party in no way ever reflects well on you Ace. Give it a rest and just go away.

        • AceInTX

          I was simply giving my take on the similarities between the Whigs who refused to take a stand on the biggest issue of the day…and the Republican Party who is doing much the same…on a lot of issues…

          • http://www.hakubi.us/ Neil Stevens

            Did you do that all by yourself? You should be proud of yourself.

          • AceInTX

            Honestly…I don’t know what your problem is? I made a simple comment in a thread that had nothing to do with you and you step in here and invite me to leave…this after I’ve been warned to lay off you…so I can’t respond to you while you have free range and open season to pound me when ever you see fit.

            I’ve tried to tell you we don’t have as much space between us on issues as you like to think…and I’ve reached out to you in other threads…yet you insist on trolling into threads I’m posting in and making personal slaps at me…

            My only request from this point on…is if I’m going to be pounced on and told to lay off you that you leave me alone.

          • http://theminorityreportblog.com David Hinz

            troll behavior is unbecoming no matter where it comes from.

          • http://www.hakubi.us/ Neil Stevens
          • http://theminorityreportblog.com David Hinz

            again

          • penguin2

            off here in the wrong direction.

          • http://theminorityreportblog.com David Hinz

            its not business its personal.

            He takes shots at me every chance he gets…

            …and I lob a few of his grenades back at him.

          • penguin2

            I just hate to see people fight, and there is blood all over the floor and everything…a bit soft-hearted I am.

          • http://www.hakubi.us/ Neil Stevens

            With all three of your readers?

          • http://theminorityreportblog.com David Hinz

            I love banning trolls

          • http://www.hakubi.us/ Neil Stevens
          • http://www.hakubi.us/ Neil Stevens

            You may want to ask Hinz not to take your side. It doesn’t help.

            It’s sorta like when Kos endorses Dede.

          • http://theminorityreportblog.com David Hinz

            of the cowardly attack — knowing you can hide behind your “status” — deliberately baiting people in the hope they will go “over the line” so that you can ban them…

            …and I DO mean cowardly.

            But not to worry, I don’t get angry with you anymore…I laugh at your juvenile attempts at baiting.

            I’ve seen that little short bus you rode to school and so I don’t take anything you say seriously.

          • http://www.hakubi.us/ Neil Stevens

            You’re gone not for insulting me, but for using as an insult defenseless kids with developmental disabilities. Just like Barack Obama.

          • AceInTX
      • http://www.hakubi.us/ Neil Stevens

        You’re just not very patriotic and don’t care about the integrity or security of the United States.

        Join or Die anyone? The imperialist vultures were circling us during the Civil War.

      • http://theminorityreportblog.com David Hinz

        talking to people at Tea Parties. I live in the birthplace of the Republican Party. That party became necessary because the two major parties no longer represented the people.

        Given the choice, I would prefer to bring the Republican Party –kicking and screaming — back to the US Constitution and to where the majority of the American people are. As would you!

        But any criticism is met with derision from the moderates who have [or are in the process of ] destroyed the party.

        • Achance

          because people in The Northeast figured out that if they could pick up a Northwest state or two they could win without the slaveholding states. And when they did win, the slaveholding states saw the handwriting on the wall and began seceding.

          The situation is the same today: the Communist, excuse me, Democrat Party has figured out that it can win with the Civil War Era US states plus WA and OR. And with this particular candidate, they enhanced the minimum winning coalition with lots of stupid children and white guilt.

  • penguin2

    so to speak. I have wondered too, why we have made so little headway on this. From the start of Roe v Wade, where I believe most people thought it would be limited and only in the most dire of circumstances, to acting as if it is a quick stop at your local abortion store.

    Just as we as Conservatives have a battle to wage for our political party to represent our principles, we have a war still going on to save the lives of millions of infants.

  • Achance

    I agree that there is a direct legal analogy between slavery and abortion, likewise between slavery and gay marriage. But there isn’t much of a political analogy.

    The South lived in mortal terror of a slave revolt. In the heaviest slave areas Whites were vastly out-numbered by Blacks and both races were well aware of that fact. By the 1850s abolitionist militance had both slaveholding and non-slaveholding Southerers deeply concerned about a revolt being fomented by Abolitionist recruited and trained slaves.

    Because of their numbers slaves also formed a very considerable potential political force. First, in many areas Blacks outnumbered Whates and any conferral of political rights would fundamentally change the political equation in much of The South – as has been dramatically demonstrated by the events since the Civil Rights and Voting Rights Acts of 1964-65. Even after the Civil War Whites held all political power in The South for a century. Second, there were political implications for the rest of the Nation as well. Under slavery Blacks were only counted as 3/5s of a person for purposes of apportionment. With emancipation, Blacks would be counted as a full person, giving The South a 40% increase in representation. In a little quoted section of the 14th Amendment, there is an implicit recognition that The South might not take well to voting rights for Blacks and the Amendment requires that if any males over 21 are legally barred from voting, the offending state’s representation will be proportionally reduced.

    The reason the abortion issue never gets adequate traction at the National level is that unborn children have zero political power and the women who do not want the child have considerable political power. Consequently, this has been and will be a battle in the courts, and one that the Right has lost thus far.

    • Ausonius

      is the “kulcher of konvenience” which has tentacles throughout American society.

      Slavery’s economic argument was becoming harder to make as the Machine Age beckoned: some historians have argued that slavery would have faded away by the 1880′s or so.

      Today we have relativism and hyper-selfishness to deal with: nothing is ever absolutely wrong, and so abortions therefore must be right sometimes. Imagine that argument being made for slavery!

      The Kulcher of Konvenience:

      The poor women/girls simply “made a mistake,” and so they should NOT have to suffer any consequences, since we live in an enlightened, scientific era which can “easily” remedy the mistake and spare the poor woman/girl any further trauma: this is the philosophy which will keep abortions alive (so to speak) with the help of constant leftist drumbeats on the heads of badly educated Americans whom leftists need to maintain their power.

      • Xasteius

        whatever contributions they could possibly make to society?

        Sounds like an economic argument to me.

        • http://impudent.blognation.us/blog kyle8

          which posits that criminal behavior went down as a consequence of abortion. Not that I believe in that linkage, there are plenty of other factors, but it is hard to dismiss this argument entirely.

          • ciscoguy

            That makes about as much sense as saying we should exterminate all black people in order to end the black on black violence.

            The sad thing is, libs have little trouble making applying moral relativism wherever they see fit. They would never overtly propose such a policy, but they can easily suggest that abortion ameliorates the problem of unwanted children born into poverty (you know which people we’re talking about – *wink*, *wink*) and more likely to live a life of crime.

            Please just don’t lecture them that raising children in a strong family, reinforced with faith in God might have a greater positive influence on producing a productive member of society than any institutions set up by the Almighty State.

  • http://whereswalden.com/ Jeff Walden

    “Though one would have to be totally dishonest if one denied that even this low level of violence has probably contributed as much to the shortage of abortionists and the reduction of the number of abortion clinics as had any social opprobrium associated with the act of killing infants in utero.”

    Agree in sentiment, but as far as comparing quantities goes I don’t see how one, without serious study and analysis of the question, could agree or disagree with “as much as”. There’s certainly an effect — but how that effect compares to the effect of any other discouragements I don’t see how any but a very few could knowledgeably say. (I’m pretty sure you’d agree with this and that your wording is merely misleading me a little, just to be clear.)

    Tangentially, it’s one of history’s little ironies that the commander who suppressed John Brown’s raid was Robert E. Lee.

    • Achance

      cadets who stood guard at the hanging, IIRC. Lt. J.E.B. Stuart was a part of Lee’s command as well.

      • Streiff

        who commanded the USMC detachment went on to be an officer in the CSA marines.

        • Achance

          service of The War. I’ll admit that all I really know is that there was one. I guess the CSA ships that operated on the rivers and from CSA ports as long as that lasted must have had them. I know the major ocean raiders didn’t. Of course, the major commerce raiders never saw the US and only the officers were US/CS citizens.

    • Streiff

      Lee was home on extended leave from command of the 2d US Cavalry at what is now called the Custis-Lee Mansion on the grounds of Arlington Cemetery to act as executor of the estate of his father-in-law. Part of that duty entailed manumitting the slaves on the estate.

  • constitutionalistconservative

    Fantastic article Streiff!

    The direction this country is heading has been weighing heavily on me lately.

    Until we as a country realize that we have turned our back on God, the values this country once held will be in vain and will slowly be destroyed.

    Until we accept the fact that our Judaeo-Christian beliefs need to be our guide in our decision making processes in both the political and social arena of ideas, we as a country will be lost.

    Refer to the Bible and see what happens to countries and civilizations that turn their back on God. The results of these findings are scary.

    As long as the Liberals continue to mold this county into a “me-centric / quick fix” societal focus; where an individual’s decision to kill an unborn child is their “right,” we will have a difficult time winning the war on abortion. There is no grey area, abortion is an ethical and moral war. This is an issue of right and wrong. To abort a child is to kill one of God’s children (our brothers and sisters).

    To win the war on abortion, we need to win the war of the moral and ethical direction of this fine country. We need staunch conservative politicians that no longer bend to the will of their constituents, but hold their conservative values and character in their heart. We need politicians that say no to compromise and yes to fighting for their (and our) moral and ethical beliefs. We need politicians that have read, understand and are willing to put into action the rights granted to us under the Constitution of the United State of America.

    We have become a grey society, where the Liberal propaganda machine has robbed us of right and wrong. It is time to demand a change in the status quo and move back to understanding that there is that which is right and that which is wrong.

    I pray everyday that we can win this battle of ideals.

    • AceInTX

      and I may be nit picking…because I know what you mean…but I think this is an important point to be made…

      understand and are willing to put into action the rights granted to us under the Constitution of the United State of America.

      Our rights are granted by GOD and are only guaranteed by the Constitution under the concept of natural law…again…it’s a small distinction but big in it’s implications for those who don’t understand natural law

      • constitutionalistconservative

        You are not nit picking at all – I agree 100%. I appreciate the additional clarification.

        As a Christian, I am a God fearing man first and an American second. I thank God every day for the gifts He has given me and at the top on my list is my heritage as an American.

        When being fired up about these issues, it is sometimes easy to miss a minor detail that does hold major relevance.

        Thanks again!

      • Third Street

        The entire premise of the United States is that the default state of mankind is freedom. That we tell our government what our rights are, not the other way around. The Declaration made this explicitly clear, and the Bill of Rights lays out in bold, clear terms not what rights we are to be allowed, but what rights we already have and upon which the United States government is forbidden to infringe.

        Even our Fearless Leader recognizes this and is none too happy about it, hence his infamous condemnation of the Constitution as a doctrine of “negative rights”.

  • http://blog.beliefnet.com/cityofbrass/ Aziz Poonawalla

    streiff, bravo. i want to say more – especially since i disagree on certan premises and agree with others – but for now, simply: bravo.

    • Streiff

      do you have some kind of genetic condition that requires you to be all smarmy over here and then slam us on other sites? Because I’d much rather that this long established pattern of behavior was the product of a medical condition than a run of the mill character defect.

      • http://blog.beliefnet.com/cityofbrass/ Aziz Poonawalla

        and I dont think any purpose is served by expressing my ideological differences of opinion with you here. I’m a guest in this house; I’ll only be agreeable while I’m under your roof. Under mine, I’ll do as I please. It’s not like you don’t know where I stand on these issues, or I have some history of mobying or whatnot.

        • http://www.hakubi.us/ Neil Stevens

          Which means *nobody* can trust you in life.

          • penguin2

            He comes here with ill intent.

          • http://www.ssce.net/Web-Articles/Web-articles-indexed-authors.html#authors-l JLenardDetroit

            and it is a Troll/Moby, despite his attempt to redefine it, trait – to Troll the site to seek comments to lift and blather about elsewhere OUT OF CONTEXT to fool other Politically Brain-dead like him.

            As he said, he is a “guest” (we usually have to remind newbies of this — as a Guest, the Hots have every right to ask someone to leave FOR ANY REASON including this “disingenuous” Trolling – no other reason or “cause” is needed!!!

            Frankly, this moron“our friend” here should try and learn a thing or two from a real/honest “Liberal” in lefty lurker!

          • http://www.hakubi.us/ Neil Stevens

            But the minute he misrepresents himself he’s toast.

          • aesthete

            I disagree with Aziz (strongly), but I don’t see him as being two-faced: he said exactly the same thing about Redstate on his site as he did here. That said, his “commenters” (read: the appropriately-named “shams”) are completely disgusting and idiotic.

          • http://www.hakubi.us/ Neil Stevens

            He didn’t bother to mention the idiotic accusation of hypocrisy.

            But what do you expect from a Deaniac? The disciples of a screaming maniac, the Deaniacs were.

  • Read Chesterton

    Introduction to Three Approaches to Abortion:

    A Thoughtful and Compassionate Guide to Today?s Most Controversial Issue

    By Peter Kreeft

    Abortion is the single most divisive public issue of our time, as slavery was for the nineteenth century, or as prohibition was for the 1920S. Intelligent, committed pro-lifers will not be satisfied in principle with anything less than the legal prohibition, or abolition, of all abortion (though most pro-lifers are pragmatic enough to accept partial abolitions as incremental steps toward that goal). And intelligent, committed pro-choicers understand this and resist, also in principle, any of these incremental steps. Pro-lifers find it intolerable that the most innocent and vulnerable members of our society and our species are legally slaughtered. Pro-choicers find it intolerable that women be forced by law to bear unwanted children against their will. Neither side can or will budge, in principle.

    There are only four things that can possibly be done in such a situation.

    First, we could simply accept the current standoff and hope it will not erupt into violence and civil war, as abolitionism did in the nineteenth century. Click here for rest of review

    Perhaps it would be useful to “walk the dog backwards” in attempting to unravel the social problem. If abortion were outlawed nationally tomorrow, what social phenomenom would ensue that would be ananogous to the 75 year civil rights struggle that followed the abolition of slavery? Another “Women’s Rights” movement would be as absurd as another “Slave owners rights” movement. I submit that the socially conservative movements pushing for a return to “Biological nuclear families as the core unit of society” would be that struggle. The rights of fathers to be fathers in the same home as their children, the rights of children to be subordinated to their biological parents vice the state, and the rights of mothers to “just say no” to the state as the de facto “Father” over their lives.

    It’s been 79 years since the Anglican Lambeth Conference – under the influence of Margaret Sanger – opened the door, socially speaking, to the mainstream acceptance of abortion. Abortion rights are preached in protestant pulpits much as were slave-owners rights in the South. But this isn’t, and cannot be, solely a religious battle. As the diary points out, the issue of slavery, unfortunately, wasn’t settled by pacifists. But the ensuing battle for civil rights actually was. If we take that lesson, perhaps putting the “Family Rights” cart before the “Stop Abortion at any cost” horse might be worth thinking about.

    • Achance

      are marginalized by the left and so-called Women’s Rights advocates dragging out the well worn and largely fictional stereotype of the abusive husband and father. If properly framed, the issues surrounding keeping a functioning family together in the face of the opposition of the state make a good political plank with which to build.

      As many others have said here, in many states abortion is THE litmus issue. In the Blue and even in some Red states, mine among them, a vehement anti-abortion stance will cause the electorate to turn off to anything else you say, at least in a statewide race.

      • Read Chesterton

        Father’s rights are marginalized by the left and so-called Women?s Rights advocates dragging out the well worn and largely fictional stereotype of the abusive husband and father.

        The first ten years of my internet presence, starting from 1995, centered around the “mens/fathers rights” rights issues. One of the RS moderators, a charter member, was right there doing a LOT of heavy lifting with deep investigations into things like “Girl Power” and the scandalous under-reporting of suicide in teenage boys. It’s probably no coincidence that such internet activity would gravitate to assailing the source of the problems… big, ugly, socialist leaning government.

  • Tbone

    “Unfortunately, issues of fundamental justice don?t lend themselves to compromise.”

    • Ausonius

      As I wrote above (q.v.), relativism disallows the whole notion of “fundamental justice” since one person’s “fundamental justice” can be the opposite of another’s, and “who is to say what’s right or wrong?”

      Triumph of the Will determines the ultimate right and wrong!

  • Alberta

    Im pro life too man, but are you really trying to tie our cause in with a fanatic who murdered family men? Noted, of course, slave owning family men.

    I agree with most of your points, but as to whether ‘that our present day struggle be seen by future generations as the equivalent of Bleeding Kansas’? While this topic is one that ignites passion, and passion ignites the hyperbole, thats a little much, for me at least.

    • Streiff

      I can’t help you read them.

      • AceInTX
    • aesthete

      The arguments to the effect of abortion = holocaust are indeed incorrect and hyperbolic, as it would require that the government be heavily involved in eradicating babies both in the media and in real life, and would also require a complicit populace, none of which can be said to be the case under the current setup. Slavery, OTOH, is a good (though not perfect) point of comparison, as it, too, wasn’t directly promoted by the government, but rather, was allowed to exist and slightly incentivized by the governments of the Southern states. (Also, the division between abolitionists and slave-owners parallels the division between pro-aborts and anti-aborts in the US in a way that the unity of opinions in Nazi Germany on the “Jewish question” doesn’t.)

  • AceInTX

    is the fact that Brown has become almost universally recognized as a madman because his raid on Harpers Ferry happened in an era of compromise but would have been totally acceptable only a few months later after the votes for secession and the bombardment of Fort Sumter.

    I would add…the real violence didn’t start with the abolitionists and I doubt it ever would have….the condemnation of Brown I would argue is proof of that…I think it’s human nature that people won’t resort to violence to end something as readily as they will to defend it…

    What I’m driving at is…it was those who wanted to preserve slavery who actually initiated hostilities. Had they not initiated them…I don’t think the abolitionist movement would have ever agreed to a full scale war to abolish slavery…and I don’t thin it would ever happen in the pro life movement either.

    If the violence ever starts…it will only be at a point where the Pro Life movement gains enough power and gathers enough of a political will to abolish abortion. As that happens…the Pro Abortion faction in this country will feel threatened and resort to violence using the rational that they are simply defending what is right against an encroachment by zealots hell bent on destroying their rights and liberties which is in essence what drove the south to secede

    • ZootSuit

      … and Streiff.

      Too all (or at least to the RedState Directors), I initially came to this thread because for some reason I wanted to read Dave Hinz’s last posts; since I understand he died in a car accident last week. But from reading above, it seems that Hinz was banned!

      Is that true?

  • http://www.hakubi.us/ Neil Stevens

    That’s the only problem with the comparison.

    Mass murder is the worst crime any society can commit.

    • http://www.redstate.com/tnjim TNJim
    • http://www.examiner.com/x-1597-Charlotte-Law--Politics-Examiner Mike gamecock DeVine

      let’s re-visit Patton – a quick break and more later

      • http://www.examiner.com/x-1597-Charlotte-Law--Politics-Examiner Mike gamecock DeVine

        Because liberal eggheads were so discredited due to the giveaway of half the globe to slavery in China and the USSR, much of which Americans fought to liberate.

        Because the GOP presided over the economic boom of the 50s, that’s why.

        Chamber’s book caused Reagan to become a republican.

        Dems abandoned Vietnam to slaughter. Many dems converted to the gop due to dem support for Ortega in Nicaragua. more later

        • http://andrightlyso.com/ civil_truth

          Only coupled with national insolvency and the dismantling of our military and sale of our military technology to our enemies, it’s not clear whether we’ll be able to reverse our losses this time,

  • JadedByPolitics

    I love the store’s and I always go to the John Brown museum. It is old but it is really kewl to see. I cannot as quickly get to the cemetery at the top of the hill as I could when I was a kid but it is always fun to make the effort :) Living in this region we did learn about John Brown’s raiders in school though I cannot say they do anymore.

  • http://www.thestandardcandle.com Justin Spagnolo

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