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South Korea Blames DPRK For Ship Sinking


At approximately 9:30pm local time on March 26 a ROK Navy Pohang class, the Cheonan, corvette was patrolling off Baengnyeong Island when it was torn in half by an underwater explosion. The explosion killed 46 ROK sailors and a diver died during subsequent recovery operations.

Suspicion immediately focused on the rogue regime now ruling North Korea, the DPRK. Today that suspicion was borne out.

South Korea will formally blame North Korea on Thursday for launching a torpedo at one of its warships in March, causing an explosion that killed 46 sailors and heightened tensions in one of the world’s most perilous regions, U.S. and East Asian officials said.

South Korea concluded that North Korea was responsible for the attack after investigators from Australia, Britain, Sweden and the United States pieced together portions of the ship at the port of Pyeongtaek, 40 miles southwest of Seoul. The Cheonan sank on March 26 after an explosion rocked the 1,200-ton vessel as it sailed on the Yellow Sea off South Korea’s west coast.

The officials, who spoke on the condition of anonymity because South Korea has yet to disclose the findings of the investigation, said subsequent analysis determined that the torpedo was identical to a North Korean torpedo that South Korea had obtained.

Wretchard of Belmont Club has, as usual, the best run down on events and The New Ledger’s Joshua Stanton offers some interesting thoughts on the subject.

At a different place or time the destruction of a man-of-war of one sovereign state by the armed forces of another would have resulted in war. For a lot of reasons the risk of war today is probably no higher than it was when the Cheonan left its home port.

The ROK has ignored many much more serious provocations in the past. In 1968 as DPRK commando team was stopped less than a half mile from the ROK equivalent of the White House on a mission to kill the ROK president Park Chung Hee. In 1974 they made another try which netted them the ROK’s First Lady. It took a gunfight at a ROK cabinet meeting to accomplished what the DPRK intelligence apparatus failed to do. In 1983, an attempt was made on the life of President Chen Doo-hwan in Rangoon, Burma (or Myanmar or whatever). It was a near miss that killed the ROK cabinet while sparing President Chun.

Not only the ROK has ignored provocations but so have we. In 1968 the USS Pueblo was seized on the high seas, in 1969 a Navy EC-121 electronic reconnaissance aircraft was shot down with the loss of 31 men, and in 1976 two American officers were axed to death inside the DMZ.

Much to our national disgrace, three successive administrations have cooperated in propping up the criminal regime in Pyongyang, now allowing it to become a nascent nuclear power. The obvious solution to the DPRK problem is regime change.

Regime change, however, is fraught with problems. The obvious way to bring down the DPRK is via starvation. The DPRK is the only nation where adults today are shorter than their grandparents because of the institutionalization of starvation in that country over three generations. A squeezing of the food aid pipeline would create unmanageable unrest in the DPRK but we would have to be willing to starve about a million or so Koreans to death and our ability to manage the aftermath is questionable. Or it would force China to step up to the plate and spend even more money to support its unruly client state.

There is a rational fear that the ruling class in Pyongyang would elect to go out in some sort of Götterdämmerung. I don’t know how reasonable that fear is. The country is starving and how long it could maintain an army in the field is really questionable. The whole mythos of the thousands of weapons targeting Seoul is really crap as is readily apparent to anyone with access to a map, protractor, DPRK order of battle, and Google Earth which is not to say the DPRK isn’t crazy or dangerous but only to say that the ROK isn’t helpless and 30 miles remains beyond the range of all but the very heaviest artillery pieces.

The real brake on taking out the DPRK regime is the fact that the ROK really doesn’t want to. The impetus towards reunification was stopped, if not rolled back, by the fall of East Germany. When the ROK government and people saw that a very rich country like West Germany was struggling to economically integrate a country much wealthier than the DPRK a panic set in. It was obvious that if the DPRK did collapse the ROK would have to pick up the costs of rehabilitating the wreckage and they knew they could not do that without brutalizing the standard of living in the ROK.

So here we are. American presidents are taking the DPRK seriously because of the fecklessness of the Clinton Administration now has the capability to plausibly claim it has a nuclear weapon. The ROK is afraid of the costs of reunification. What China’s agenda is is anyone’s guess. And the DPRK remains free to purvey SCUD missiles, crystal meth, counterfeit currency and terror with impunity.

And there is no end in sight.

COMMENTS

  • http://itsaboutfreedom.proboards.com Conservative Phantom

    Nothing more. Nothing Less.

    And nothing is going to change with President Toonces at the wheel of the car.

  • Scope

    and how proud she was that she bought the North Koreans out of developing a nuke, all while they were still developing a nuke. The Clinton way- just throw money at it and hope it goes away. If it doesn’t go away, lie and say it did. It, is subject to Clinton descriptions.

  • http://www.scragged.com petrarch

    North Korea vs. South Korea – and the United States, and large chunks of the rest of the West as well – are technically still in a state of war. The Korean War never ended with a treaty, only a ceasefire. So technically the war is still under way, and automatically turns hot as soon as someone feels like making it so. Which it looks like the Northies just did.

    The question isn’t, is there a war on? The question is, are we going to return fire in the war that’s already on, or just sit there and take what’s coming to us?

    But our response to that other long-running declared war, the one started by Osama bin Laden, doesn’t make me too hopeful. I’m glad I don’t live in Seoul.

    • streiff

      there is a cease fire which means that it really isn’t legal to carry out attacks. That’s why there is a Military Armistice Commission that meets in Panmunjom.

      • Raven

        The war Is still on and either side can open fire at any time for any reason.

        It’s just heavily frowned on as opening fire without announcing that the truce is off, is considered a sneak attack and thus cowardly.

        • streiff

          In Korea we signed an armistice not a “cease fire.” Anyone can just start shooting. The facts here indicate the DPRK did not intend to be found out.

  • http://www.thehayride.com MacAoidh

    …you’ve identified the real reason for the Korean situation to be what it is.

    South Korea has no interest whatever in taking over North Korea. North Korea is a nation of scarecrows with no job skills, education, concept of the rule of law, ability to self-govern or function in a modern society. German reunification was a walk in the park compared to what it would take for the ROK to bring North Korea out of the dark.

    It would be tantamount to the United States absorbing Haiti and Cuba, multiplied by 10. Just as we have no interest in such a prospect, the ROK looks upon the fall of the Nork regime as a complete disaster. The collapse of that regime even without reunification would bring on an immigration and humanitarian crisis for South Korea exponentially worse than the illegal immigration problem we have here on our borders.

    There is nothing in North Korea but trouble. And we have no leverage to positively affect that situation; none of the regional players there have any interest in making things better.

    What we should do is recognize the situation for what it is and get our troops out of there. We have suitable air assets in Japan to blunt any attack the Norks might bring to bear, and we have the naval capacity to interdict them if they try to export nukes or other contraband. Other than that, we should disengage and let South Korea and Japan figure out their own path.

    • leftylurker

      My mentor in academia always says “Everything that persists has a constituency.” That phrase has really helped me understand the world.

      Why is there no peace in the Mideast: people in Hamas live off of violence. Why is there no peace in Korea: because the South is terrified that they will have to a) pay for their own defense, and b) absorb millions of starving brainwashed new socialists.

      I was once accosted by a rally of South Korean students who were pushing for the withdraw of US forces in their country. It was hard not to laugh…they had no idea that Seoul was within artillery range of the north and that it was only the prospect of US nuclear or conventional deterrence that kept them from taking part in annual mass gymnastics demonstrations.

      • http://www.thehayride.com MacAoidh

        …HARD if there was another war. The Norks might have lots of guns and they could certainly do a number to Seoul, with economic damage of incalculable size, but the ROK has a far more capable and technologically advanced force than they had in the 1950′s and in three weeks they would be totally unable to feed or resupply their forces and they would be routed in short order as their supplies ran out.

        It still doesn’t matter. After the South won that war, they would be in a position of having to govern their newly-won craphole of an addition. At that point it wouldn’t be acceptable to install some other government; they either would get a new enemy to deal with or they would have an immigration crisis.

        In short, even if they win, they lose.

        You can’t really blame them for their posiiton. But since there is no way to make it better, we should come home. We don’t need ground troops in South Korea to guarantee a level of security for the South.

        • leftylurker

          The nuke…

          • SteveLA

            leftylurker

            The moment Kim caps off a nuke over South Korea he’ll get 10 back, and that’s why Japan, China and South Korea are stuck between a rock and hard place when it comes to the North Koreans.

          • leftylurker

            The man is about to die. He has tortured and killed countless people. And he makes people do those crazy gym routines…

            If I were in power in Seoul, I would lay awake every night praying for 1) missile defense, and 2) that KJL didn’t get a case of the crazies and launch a nuke as a funeral pyre.

            I know that there have to be people in the power structure who would try to stop him, if only to save themselves, but I don’t know, and I think that not many people know, how their system is really organized. Seoul as a glowing crater is the *end* of South Korea as a state.

          • SteveLA

            lefty

            Missile defense would assume that a NK nuke would be delivered by such a system or that you could tell the sheep from the goats if they fired off a whole bunch at the same time.

            NK’s are pretty into the special forces and infiltration and all that sort of thing. A truck, a car, many other ways of delivery of a nuke that no missile defense can stop.

            Ignoring the saber rattling of a mad man name Kim is about the best that can be done.

          • leftylurker

            A cocky student once asked “come on, how do would a terrorist get a bomb into the US,” to which my wise friend replied “he’d hide it in a bale of cocaine.”

        • SteveLA

          MacAoidh

          I read one time that there was something like over 2 million gun barrels within 50 miles of Seoul. What happens to the South if the North comes South?….scary thought.

          Another scary thought, the US Army is not what it once was in terms of troop strength in Korea, so what military responses are available from the US today if the North Koreans go mad?

          Probably the reason why China and Japan are very interested along with the Korean government of not letting anything start.

          • Raven

            We would respond with nukes and/or air-raids and their troops would go exactly nowhere. What their artillery or nuke(s) did in the first few hours would be all the Norks did the entire war.
            US Air assets have demonstrated several times the capability to halt upwards of a million soldiers in their tracks. Simultaneously.

          • SteveLA

            Raven

            The unspoken fear is where is that trip wire for the US and Korea if the North starts coming south. The decision to go nuclear in the face of an invasion is obviously a very complex and more political than military in my way of thinking. It is also the nightmare that probably keeps people in Washington, Seoul and Tokyo up at night every me Kmi and NK’s get to acting nutty.

          • Raven

            I really don’t think we’ll ever nuke NK. Our air superiority is so great that I don’t think we’ll ever be convinced nukes are necessary vs NK.

            However, I DO see NK launching a first strike if they ever get a working one of their own.

          • http://www.hakubi.us/ Neil Stevens

            Given that their test failed by any account, I don’t know if they have the intellectual capacity to build a working one.

          • Raven

            IF.

            And I don’t see them trying too much of anything if they don’t have them.

        • streiff

          They only have a couple of hundred systems that can range Seoul and all of those have to be within 5 miles of the DMZ. This, of course, implies that those guns won’t be available for combat operations anywhere else along the DMZ. The ROK Air Force and our own airpower would shut them down in the first couple of hours.

          • SteveLA

            steiff

            There was a fiction book that came out in the 90′s called Red Phoenix by Larry Bond. Pretty good tail of that very story if you’re into the Tom Clancy sort of fiction.

          • streiff

            Larry Bond was IMHO better than Clancy.

          • SteveLA

            Read both Red Storm and Red Phoenix back to back and see if you can tell who did much of the heavy lifting in Red Storm. TC sort of acknowledges that in the forward to Red Storm.

            Speaking of TC, but off topic, try to find a copy of “Teeth of the Tiger” at a local book emporium. Seems like the PC crowd made it go away…maybe not, but I lost my copy and had to order a new one from Amazon.

  • romeg

    of JFK, the CIA and Kennedy’s willingness to employ/deploy them.

  • Alberta

    As I see it, North Korea is bought and paid for by the Chinese. If the country collapses, the South doesn’t have to let a single North Korean in if they didn’t want, they have that militarized border. The North Koreans would then head, well, north into China.

    Call me stupid or whatever, but sending millions of starving North Koreans into China would be a good thing, I think. Maybe the effect of that would topple the illegal Chinese regime!

    • Raven

      And the Chinese already have millions of people starving to death. Plus the unrest of millions more with no marriage prospects.

      2 birds. 1 stone.

  • streiff

    Chinese are not Koreans. If the place melts down they aren’t going to let refugees in.

    South Koreans are Koreans. Many, if not most, have relatives in the North. There is no way any South Korean government could refuse to either accept refugees or reconstruct the country.

    • http://www.thehayride.com MacAoidh

      …something happens. And that’s why they don’t want anything to change.

      It’s almost like the guy who gets shot with an arrow. You might do more damage pulling it out.

  • Kudzu

    In 2003-2004 we walked along the DMZ in the eastern sector along the east coast and a few other places that get ignored. It hasn’t changed. No one wants a war on the Peninsula especially the DPRK because they will be annhilated in short order.Nukes or no nukes…we couldn’t let and South Kore nor Japan would allow an aggressive, expansionist China a stake on the Peninsula…it would mean a wider, longer, and far more deadlier conflict