key to short-term response. Unfortunately, the Obama admin remains unreliable in support of the Israeli realists.

Acting like these are “pro-democracy” protests is about the same as complimenting the Basij for putting down “anti-democracy” protests in Iran after the “elections” there.

Egypt is going to be a democracy with the Muslim Brotherhood calling the shots about as much as Lebanon, Syria, and Iran are democratic.

When are pols going to learn that democracy movements do not necessarily correlate with America’s interests or even an expansion of freedom for the country with this so-called democratic movement?

real bad. And yet, we still give billions of dollars of aid, even military aid to these unstable mid east governments.

I’ve felt for some time that Egypt was in a downward spiral of no return.

The Muslim Brotherhood has had Egypt by the nads for some time. And due to Mubarak having had such control over the country for decades – with good old American backing (because hey, a minor baddy is better than a big baddy) – they’ve become a inept in their authority. Sure, they could keep the MB under control, but they emasculated themselves and their country’s future at the same time.

Even had the swell of democratic prostests not swept from Iran to the Magrib and back to the Middle East, the Mubarak dictatorship would still probably fall to the Muslim Brotherhood. Mubarak’s son has been seen as very weak. When Hosni dies, a power vacuum will/would occur, whether or not his son replaces him.

The MB would exert control over the Mubarak administration. And as for the democracy movement? Hamstrung from the start due to the way the Mubarak government has squelched freedom for so long. The MB has the infrastructure and friends to overpower any democratic movement.

Egypt is surrounded by governments friendly to the Muslim Brotherhood: Libya and Sudan. Combine that with Syria, Lebanon and Iran. Iraq is effectively playing Switzerland right now.

Israel has been playing with Egypt like the US has, but soon they’ll be completely isolated with the exception of perhaps Jordan. Considering how Israel has been reacting to Lebanon, Syria and Iran over the last four years, I suspect that Israel will not engage in any war with Egypt.

All so Biblical.

I think the myth of that has already been deconstructed sufficiently by streiff above. I just note that in 2009, Bambi displayed not a bit of interest in any “universal rights” possibly belonging to Iranians unhappy that the despotic government had yet again staged a mock election with phony results.

I personally saw videos of protesting citizens being shot in the street by the Iranian government. IIRC, there were widespread reports of arrests, disappearances, and rapes of detainees perpetrated by the internal police. Bambi and the whole administration, and the Leftist Media sat on their hands, buttoned their lips, and dutifully reported on the day’s stock market, weather, sports, and Hollywood foibles.

But now, now that pro-Islamist protests are happening that might result in installing MB forces in power, hey, he’s all about the “rights” of the people to riot, burn, and destabilize.

Yeah.

–”the Obama Administration seems to think it has found a working partner in the Muslim Brotherhood” — should frighten the daylights out of anyone who knows anything about the Muslim Brotherhood.

The Muslim Brotherhood is the primary generator and supporter of Muslim TERRORIST groups all over the world. (And, knowing that, it should terrify us that the Muslim Brotherhood is also the parent organization of every major Muslim advocacy group in the U.S.,including CAIR, ISNA, MSA, et al. [Read the landmark report Sharia: The Threat to America issued last year.]

going to recommend that all remain Civil??

or is the media going to somehow spin that is the right’s fault or even Bush’s

Putting that in jeopardy is a good way to ensure gas prices rise to Al Gore’s target.

Which is it?

What are the chances that, for the second time, an Israel hating, Marxist loving Democrat POTUS will turn a key ME ally over to a second Israel hating, Marxist loving radical Islamist faction? All in the name of “preserving democracy.”

I’m not fooled this time. These guys are out to destroy Israel, and if they can do enough damage to get the U.S. completely out of the M.E., they will chalk it up as a bonus.

Watch this video clip if you feel like being peace-loving and all that sort of goodness we’re supposed to respect and understand even if we disagree.

Raw Video: Man Shot in Egypt Protest.

While we’re at it, here’s a link to video of a dual stoning – a woman and a man – by the Taliban. Those guys are ‘peace partners’ to the administration also, right ? Pretty sure he did say he’d talk with them about life and going green, plus eating properly.

“Who lost the whole damned Middle East?”
Well, we’ll know the answer to that one, won’t we?

The Department of State is an empty shell.
The Obama administration is a vile abomination and THIS IS NOT ABOUT SEX.
The Department of Defense is a willing accomplice in its downward spiral into uselessness.
And we are two years out.
Where are the leaders, the patriots? If Israel goes we are completely and utterly morally bankrupt.

From a website called “Mashable” with links to legit news items.

Reports are coming in that Egypt is now under an Internet and SMS blackout, just hours before a new series of major protests are planned against the regime of President Hosni Mubarak.

Sebone, a major Egyptian service provider based in Italy, is reporting that no Internet traffic is entering or exiting the country as of 12:30 AM Egyptian time. Reporters and citizens on-the-ground are also reporting that they are experiencing Internet and SMS outages.

“I suspect the internet cutoff is just a fraction of what the government has in store for Friday,” CNN’s Ben Wederman, who is on the ground in Egypt, said on Twitter earlier today.

Better fasten your seat belts.

…if the Muslim Brotherhood does take over Egypt.

What the Muslim Brotherhood (and the Grand Mufti of
Jerusalem) failed to accomplish working with the Nazis during WWII, their heirs will try anew. And with Hezbollah and Hamas on the same team regarding Israel, things could get even more grim.

More info on their historical Nazi links:

http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/viewSubCategory.asp?id=764

There remains a macropressure or two.

But he isn’t exactly Stalin, either. The Shah repressed democratic movements beyond the parliamentary reforms he permitted, but the main target and subject of nearly all the coercive interrogation was the islamists. In the meantime, his people achieved a standard of living unprecedented in the region. Iran was the most open society in the islamic world, and the only one to be a close ally of Israel.

Now we have an inkling why he repressed the dirty bahstahds.

Mubarak is not as benevolent, but he faces a similar threat. I can’t celebrate him being deposed until I see what replaces his regime.

Sorry to say, many of you are rooting for the wrong side in this one…
EGYPT: Be Careful What You Wish For…

Amind all of the understandable cynicism, that is the question at the bottom of it all. Sure, they could end up with an Islamic version of the Jacobins and Napoleon, but we don’t know that they will. Given what has gone on in Iran over the last few years, I can tell that there are other forces at work besides the ones that brought the world the Iranian religious dictatorship and only time will tell which path wins out. Given that I am not prepared to pass judgement as I strongly object to proping up an evil dictator in the name of stability because we think it better for ourselves than the unknown. We do not have that right, but on the contrary, we have the obligation to support freedom and self-governance wherever it breaks out, and we should be prepared to help them, not put them down.

to, well, I don’t know- Saudi Arabia? Then we will see how much Obama talks about meeting with the Muslim Brotherhood to understand their perspective.

This is nothing but a radical movement co-opting populist sentiment and themes as a means of grabbing power. I wouldn’t be cheering too loudly until all the facts are understood. I would also be careful about linking these events as some type of holistic, popular Middle-East movement when the only common thread is a radical Islamist group.

Some of these governments are badly in need of democratic reforms. But they have existed for a long time due to the unholy balance they provide. With that arbiter gone there will be a vacuum filled by those with the biggest guns. Based on a quick review of Middle Eastern groups who do you think that is?

Mr Obama has shown he has no love for democratic movements whether in Iran or Venezuela. He has hosted the communist Chinese as some type of conquering hero role-model dismissing their many serious dictatorial transgressions; not to mention the fact they exist as the antithesis of democracy.

These despicable Middle Eastern groups know Mr. Obama is either sympathetic or apathetic and have used that posture to gain legitimacy and a foothold against governments they seek to forcefully and undemocratically replace. If this situation continues on the present course and these groups gain power, we will rue the day it occurred either with our governments consent or lack of forceful diplomatic action.

but how much more proof do you need?

WTF do you think he was doing in Egypt? Visiting the Pyramids? Handing out Rev. Wright sermon tapes?

…to have these discussions among ourselves about ‘democracy’, foreign cultures, et cetera, as long as we are all on the same page about who WE are, and as long as there is straight talk about THE THREAT(s) to us. What we cannot have is our leaders? not calling evil by it’s name. We may not be able to defeat hegemonists or slavemasters in one fell swoop, but detente and ‘outreach’ have not worked. Arguments that “we”, whoever that is, try to “impose” democracy, whether “we” are successful or not, are not central.
What we need right now is a little enlightened self-interest.
Perhaps East is East and West is West is true…don’t know. But I think America can walk and chew gum at the same time.

Curfew starting now and the Army has supposedly been ordered to take to the streets to enforce it. This is a definite flashpoint.

http://english.aljazeera.net/watch_now/

For those of you who believe in Biblical prophecy, what we are witnessing is nothing short of amazing.
For those of you rolling your eyes at me as, “oh boy, here we go, another bible kook”, you can stop reading if you like.

We live in a leaderless time, which will lead to Israel being alone and isolated. This is the only way the Bible’s prophetic words can be fulfilled and while it is a very scary time for the world, Christians need only to look up with hope as we know these things must happen for Christ’s return.

Yes, these issues of wars, earthquakes, famine, disease, etc., have occurred throughout history, however, we have never lived in a time when the whole world can see these events unfold at the same time. I don’t believe this will happen today, or tomorrow, more to the point that we are to recognize the season.

Our president IS a muslim by birthright. There is no denying that, and while his claims of being a Christian ring hollow because of his actions towards Islam and muslims, we should not be surprised of the similarities to Carter. Obama is trying to straddle a fence that cannot be straddled. By it’s own doctrine in the Quran, Islam is at war with the rest of the world. There is no peace in there doctrine. You either convert and be subservient to born muslims, or you die.

Suffice it to say, we are living in extraordinary times and this is not the time to have a weak leader.

Perhaps the media may be regretting not vetting this president. Once their lives are threatened, I doubt they will hesitate to through Obama under the bus.

Did Obama send him?

http://washingtonexaminer.com/blogs/beltway-confidential/ayers-dohrn-helped-organize-flotilla-group

Unemployment among males under 40 in the Middle East is now flowering: you see them in France and other Islamescing areas: standing on street corners, glaring at passers-by, smoking and drinking (oh yes!), they have no wives, no jobs, and no futures except for hand-outs from welfare.

Islamo-fascism gives them a purpose. This demographic bomb has been ticking for a good number of years, and it is no surprise that now things are exploding. By not investing in a free economy, and allowing basic freedoms, the Middle Eastern dictatorships have sown the seeds of their own destruction.

But of course that is why a dictatorship is a dictatorship! Why would they be giving up their own power willingly?

Uprisings of “the people” must not be romanticized: the American Revolution is the great exception. The vast majority of such uprisings fail, and if they succeed, they often lead to something worse than what they replaced.

The Peasant Revolts in the 1500′s, catalyzed by Martin Luther (who was violently against such revolts), and marked by demands for greater freedoms, all failed.

The Revolutions of 1848 failed.

The French rose up for “Liberty, Equality, and Brotherhood” and reaped The Terror, followed by the slaughter of the Napoleonic Wars.

The Russians ended up with Stalin, and the Chinese with Mao: between 75-150 million slaughtered as a result.

We shall see what happens: expect nothing but incompetence from BIG BRObama, a man with NO sense of History.

Secretary of State Hillary Clinton Clinton appeals for calm, restraint from Egyptian security forces and protesters.

Video here: http://www.breitbart.tv/clinton-calls-for-calm-in-egypt

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She talks of freedom and rights. — This from the woman who guaranteed ratification of The UN Small Arms Treaty and disarming Americans.

Mme. Secretary, Ms. Clinton: Go spit up a rope. You’re backing the wrong side of crazy here. Mubarak’s a dictator and the Shari’a-is-everything maniacs running rampant are a billion times worse. Most of the people – they want their country back and to simply be left alone.

And another thing Ma’am, you may wish to consider that the 12th Imam types pushing the buttons over there from The Muslim Brotherhood, Iran and Hezbollah are coordinating it all — taking over Lebanon AND Egypt simultaneously in order to get to their real goal — Israel.

But I’m just a typical bitter Jewish God-clinging Constitution-loving Flag-waving gun-owning barking-mad-insane NASCAR fan, so what do I know, right ?

The merde is about to encounter the ventilateur in a big way.

And what I expect from the administration here is a “nudge” from Sunstein and words of pure submission from his boss.

Just have to keep looking, I guess.

1992 Ruby Ridge Idaho..

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ruby_Ridge

“Before the negotiators arrived at the cabin, an FBI HRT sniper, Lon Horiuchi, shot and wounded Randy Weaver in the back with the bullet exiting his right armpit, while he was lifting the latch on the shed to visit the body of his dead son.[47] (The sniper testified at the later trial that he had put his crosshairs on Weaver’s spine, but Weaver moved at the last second.) Then, as Weaver, his 16-year-old daughter Sara,[48] and Harris ran back toward the house, Horiuchi fired a second bullet, which passed through Vicki Weaver’s head, killing her, and wounded Harris in the chest. Vicki Weaver was standing behind the door through which Harris was entering the house, holding their 10-month-old baby Elisheba[48] in her arms.[49] The Department of Justice Office of Professional Responsibility Ruby Ridge Task Force Report (June 10, 1994) stated in section I. Executive Summary subhead B. Significant Findings that the second shot did not satisfy constitutional standards for legal use of deadly force.[50] The OPR review also found the lack of a request to surrender was “inexcusable”, since Harris and the two Weavers were running for cover without returning fire and were not an imminent threat. The task force also specifically blamed Horiuchi for firing through the door, not knowing whether someone was on the other side of it.”

“In 1997, Boundary County, Idaho Prosecutor Denise Woodbury, with the help of special prosecutor Stephen Yagman, charged Horiuchi in state court with involuntary manslaughter. Horiuchi successfully petitioned to remove the case to federal court,[9] where the case was dismissed by U.S. District Judge Edward Lodge on May 14, 1998, who cited the supremacy clause of the Constitution which grants immunity to federal officers acting in the scope of their employment”

Its nice that in America now after this precedent in 1998 that the Gestapo, I mena FBI and ATF are above the law and immune from prosecution even when they MURDER unarmed citizens / political dissidents. Human rights violations anyone? By the grace of God the 10 month old baby Vivki Weaver was carrying survived the assination by Horiuchi the murderous sniper working for the Pinochet, errI mean Janet Reno and Billy Boy the dope smoking, draft dodging, filandering, perjuror regime.

Fast forward 1993 in Waco Texas…

I think everyone is familiar with Janet Reno’s good ole Pinochet-style Texas barbeque for the Branch Davidians that also publicly criticized her regime.

September 2005

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sedition

“Laura Berg, a nurse at a U.S. Department of Veterans Affairs hospital in New Mexico was investigated for sedition in September 2005 after writing a letter to the editor of a local newspaper, accusing several national leaders of criminal negligence. Though their action was later deemed unwarranted by the director of Veteran Affairs, local human resources personnel took it upon themselves to request an FBI investigation.”

“In 1940, the Alien Registration Act, or “Smith Act”, was passed, which made it a federal crime to advocate or to teach the desirability of overthrowing the United States Government, or to be a member of any organization which does the same.”

It does not seem to me that her actions came anywhere close to advocating or teaching the desireability of overthrowing the US Government. Sharon Angle’s call to 2nd Amendment remedies if some citizens decide they don’t lik election results is alot closed to the definition of sedition if you ask me and I guess they only reason they was never prosecuted for same is that she has friends in high places that Laura Berg being a regular “citizen” did not have access to. I guess in America now there are two classes of people in legal proceding politicians, lobbysists and other “friends of the court” and regular people like us who actually have to follow the laws and take resposibility for our actions something they dont have to do in Washington. She didnt even break the law she merely petitioned her governemnt for a redress of grievances like I have been the last couple years, and many here are also doing – and that 14th amendment illegal alien anhor baby who needs to be deported – Alberto Gonzales had her arrested and maliciously prosecuted her for simply criticizing the government. Human rights violation???

Last year in 2010 the Obama / Holder dictatorship arrested nine people thought to be Hutaree members in Michigan, Ohio, and Indiana for their alleged involvement in anti-government activited basicially criticizing the federal government and demanding a redress of grievances just like the MB are in Egypt? On May 3, 2010 a federal judge ordered that all nine members be freed on bond until their trial, saying that prosecutors were not able to demonstrate that the defendants would pose a danger if released. Human rights violations??? If still held they would essentially be political prisoners since the broke no laws and harmed no one. The governemnt perceived hem as a threat so propaganda was deployed and the dissidents were arrested.

I’m sure there are many other cases of the US goverment overstepping its bounds and supressing the American people, depriving American citizens of their “human” rights but I guess the current President and Attorney General (as well as past Presidents and Attorney Generals) care more about Egyptians freedom than Americans freedom and “human rights”.

Am I the only one that thinks shooting a man in the back and then shooting an unarmed woman holding a 10-month old baby is a despicable act of cowardice.

West Point should disown this traitor and he should be deported. He is lucky the other dispacable un-American cowards in the Clinton White Hosue / Janet Reno DOJ and the federal kangaroo courts were able save him from the DA in Idaho making him pay for his crimes thriough the due process of law. I guess only God Almighty has the power and authority to judge these murderers and in the American Khmer Rouge, I mean the FBI and ATF.

What are you talking about.

I was barely born during his Presidency 40 years ago?

I think the schlacking he took from Ronald Reagan in 1980 pretty much ended the Peanut Farmer’s relevance in America. Other than blowing the Iranian hostage crisis is there anything else worth mentioning from this Jimmy’s failed attept at leadership?