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Obama Made A “Gutsy Call” And He’ll Tell You So

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UPDATE: it seems that http://www.gutsycall.com still points to Obama 2012.

Last week my colleague, Dan McLaughlin, noted that the website gutsycall.com referred visitors to the Obama 2012 campaign  website

If you click on the URL www.gutsycall.com, you will notice that – as of this writing – it redirects you to the Obama 2012 re-election campaign website. The URL was apparently purchased yesterday, although the purchaser seems to have covered its tracks. It would appear that this is being done with the intention of using “Gutsy Call” as a campaign slogan for Obama’s 2012 campaign, in an effort to capitalize on President Obama’s decision -after just 16 hours of deliberation – to order the operation that led to Osama bin Laden’s death.

The website no longer redirects to the Obama campaign and there was much squalling from the Obama camp that they had nothing to do with this. There is much to doubt in their denial and there is little doubt that Obama will run for a second term by attempting to capitalize on the “gutsy call” to kill bin Laden.

As I’ve noted before, in the 29 or so months that have intervened since Barack Obama was inaugurated we have come to know him as a petty, vindictive, indecisive little man. Arguably, his is the smallest presence to have occupied the Oval Office in this century, and maybe the last as well. It is a record he is likely to retain barring a Verne Troyer presidency. Indeed, the photo, below, that is now deemed “iconic”, that of the President and his national security team observing the raid on bin Laden’s compound shows a man dwarfed by the office and attempting to shrink into insignificance in the presence of even renowned  chuckleheads like Joe Biden.

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Now it seems that having been forced to make the only decision that he could reasonably make, the president’s acolytes want us to pay homage to the man for doing his job albeit reluctantly. Make no mistake about it Obama, himself, wants us to know what kind of a courageous man he is.

“At the end of the day, this was still a 55-45 situation,” Obama told CBS’s “60 Minutes” in his first broadcast interview since bin Laden’s death early last Monday. “I mean, we could not say definitively that bin Laden was there. Had he not been there, then there would have been some significant consequences.”

But “gutsy call” is the rallying cry. Google the phrase combined with “Obama” and you get over 58,000 hits. As Tony Harnden at The Telegraph observes, the phrase crops up anytime one of Obama’s supporters talks about the event.

When President Obama was faced with the opportunity to act upon this, the president had to evaluate the  strength of that information and then made what I believe was one of  the most gutsiest calls of any president in recent memory.

(John Brennan in the White House briefing room)

This was a gutsy decision by the president.  A lot of things could have gone wrong.

(Senator John Kerry on MSNBC)

It was a very gutsy decision made by the president.  I mean, he could  have sent some Hellfire missiles in there and destroyed everybody and  everything.

(Senator Dianne Feinstein on MSNBC)

All of those risks were debated.  All of them were thoroughly  explored.  And in the end, I think that’s why the president made a very gutsy decision by deciding that for all of those risks, we had to  do this.

(Leon Panetta on PBS)

You know, the president had an opportunity, on a very granular basis, to work with those guys every day, particularly the leaders of the bin Laden team, two very impressive guys. And the president came away very impressed. And it was their information that allowed him to make this gutsy call.

(Denis McDonagh on CNN)

But the top prize for the most sycophancy towards Obama this week surely has to be awarded to Wendy Chamberlain, Middle East Institute president and former US ambassador to Pakistan, who had this to say on CNN:

But he made that decision to go without telling Pakistan and that took some real courage, as much courage as our Navy SEALs did in pulling off a near flawless operation.

We can all be glad bin Laden is dead but the administration turning this into some kind of proof of Obama’s toughness is little more than juvenile. The fact is that killing bin Laden, or attempting to kill him, was the only choice that Obama had. The fact that he has dithered over this decision for two months and at the eleventh hour took a 16 hour nap to think on the subject should give every American call for alarm not thanksgiving. Regardless of the political fallout from the raid, the vague “significant consequences” Obama mentioned on 60 Minutes, we all would have forgiven him for doing something to kill bin Laden.

Whether the building had been a Trappist monastery or he’d carpet-bombed Abbottabad the American public would have forgiven action. What we would never have forgiven was him doing nothing. We all know that and the president trying to capitalize from taking a course of action he plainly did not want to take but was forced upon him is simply disreputable.

COMMENTS

  • msctex

    If this is the tack they choose to pursue, they can try and hammer home the “gutsy call” phrase all they like, but it has been far too obvious for far too long that the Emperor has no clothes. It only goes to prove the extent to which they truly believe repetition can mold Reality. In this instance, it won’t even mold Perception.

    The most telling (and encouraging) aspect of this is that they believe this is the best they can do. They want to push the notion of an effete Progressive as a decisive man of military action, and it simply is not going to work. It isn’t even mutton dressed as lamb, it is like one of those awful California yard-clipping salads offered as prime rib.

  • SoFiMil

    Leon Panetta said the certainity of bin Laden’s location was 60%-80%. Then NSA Donilon said it was 50-50. Now Obama is saying it was 55%. Obviously at least two of these men are lying.

    http://content.usatoday.com/communities/theoval/post/2011/05/panetta-we-thought-pakistan-officials-might-tell-bin-laden-about-raid/1

    http://www.politico.com/blogs/politicolive/0511/Donilon_Obama_only_5050_on_bin_Ladens_whereabouts.html

    • kattail

      I don’t know how good this source is, but this is makign rounds. Reportedly Vallery was burning his ear and getting him to delay any decision. He was setting up Panetta to be the fall guy along with Hillary and Gates. However, given it was a sucess we’re to believe he was the mastermind who made the gutsy call.

      http://socyberty.com/issues/white-house-insider-obama-hesitated-panetta-issued-order-to-kill-osama-bin-laden/4/

    • SoFiMil

      The Dear Leader still had no clothes.

      An 80% likelihood is a no-brainer. That made The One look not anywhere near some kind of wonderful and far from the gravitas of George W. Bush. The 50-50 characterization would show no leadership, whatsoever, as that’s just a flip of the coin which any Jane or Joe can do. Therefore, the White House finally settled on the 55% number.

      Such courage and conviction, that it took “sexing down* the analysis.

      Wonder what the actual number is should the analytical product ever be released. And *that’s* the only bit of information that should be released, if that.

  • blooch

    with a descriptor most often heard in the wide, wide world of sports. The phrase must have poll-tested extremely well among his base.

    If I hear it one more time my guts are gonna make call to my mouth.

    • blooch

      In homage to your Vern Troyer theme, maybe I should just call him Mini Driver.

      • SoFiMil
        • blooch

          This Diary’s getting to them…see ijg1 below

  • chbroussard

    If we had a picture here of Obama on The View or on Oprah, you’d see a man out front, totally in his element instead of this pathetic looking weasel sitting in the corner of the room. I find it hard to believe this jokester has made a gutsy move in his entire life.

  • ijg1

    You’re saying you would have forgiven him and not called him incompetent if it was the wrong house or wrong location? Come on folks, let’s get real here. Of course you wouldn’t have. If Obama can’t get credit for making the right call here, there’s literally nothing he can do to get credit for anything from the right.

    • blooch
    • http://theminorityreportblog.com Repair_Man_Jack

      He used Darth Cheney’s assassination squad to do the hit. I think he’s growing in office and may one day stand tall enough in stature to reach Dwight Eisenhower’s knee-caps.

    • streiff

      that you gave Bush.

      By the way, reading comprehension is your friend. No one is denying that he made the right call, the objection is with him pretending that he had any choice but to make that call and that the call was particularly heroic. He didn’t. It wasn’t.

      • msctex

        On both points, and in that order.

      • ijg1

        Of course he had another choice. He had to invade a sovereign nation with far less than absolute intel certainty. You think Ron Paul invades that “mansion” in Pakistan? Not likely, based on his stance on war, right? So to say it’s the obvious choice, is only obvious because we know the results. Like I said, the idea that conservs would simply let the wrong call slide, if bin Laden wasn’t there is absurd.

        • streiff

          there are always a wide variety of theoretical choices. But he had only three 1) bomb the bejeezus out of the compound and have no proof anyone of significance was in there and take the heat for bombing an Islamabad suburb, 2) do what he did, and 3) do nothing.

          There is only a political upside to one of those choices. The one he took.

          It is equally obvious from the tick-tock stories that Panetta was very much in favor of going in as was Hillary and one or both of those was inevitably going to leak like a sieve if he refused to act so there is no way that option was really on the table.

          I’m giving Obama credit for being more tightly wrapped than Ron Paul. If you disagree with my premise I’m more than willing to entertain it.

          No one said we’d let this slide any more than you guys let Bush keeping us safe for 8 years slide

          • ijg1

            If his decision to approve the invasion wasn’t successful, the political backlash would be twice as severe as the upside. I am sure he understood this when he made the call. Obama has so far invaded Afgh, Libya and now Pakistan, in two years. I’m not sure I understand the mantra that Obama wouldn’t have done this if it weren’t for Panetta or Clinton. The guy is obviously not shy of using military action when necessary.

            You’re right about not giving Bush credit for keeping us safe. But honestly, how can you guys expect us to give him credit for keeping us safe when 9/11 happened while he was in office. Step outside of your political idealogue for a second and think about that. How can those two facts live in harmony with one another?

          • blooch

            “If his decision to approve the invasion wasn?t successful…”

            Freudian or just unclear language, I don’t know, but the emphasis on whether or not the “decision” was successful, rather than the” invasion” speaks volumes.

            And Obama didn’t invade Afghanistan. How old are you?

            Oh, and it’s “kinetic military action”.

          • msctex

            . . .and it was provable that it had been the result of poor planning or this Adminstration’s usual “act first, deal with the consequences later” mentality, then Obama would have been justifiably roasted here.

            But had it failed and been the result of unforeseeable circumstance or simple bad luck, I think you would find the majority here would grit their teeth and acknowledge the facts of the matter, and give credit where credit is due for at least a righteous attempt. We wouldn’t enjoy it, but such is the price of adulthood.

            I suspect you are incapable of believing that, as it might cause a domino effect regarding other misapprehensions. But believe it or not, our primary goal is not the destruction of Obama’s Presidency. He clearly does not need our help. Whereas the Left, with the “Mission Accomplished” banner serving as a fine example, must necessarily veer outside the boundaries of reality and fact to reach their goals, we can simply sit back and watch.

          • ijg1

            I realize that’s the theme of this website- conservativism. That’s why I frequent this place: to see what you guys are talking about. But let’s not pretend like you wouldn’t prefer that Obama fail miserably during these next few years.

            Bin Laden is captured after 10 years of searching, death and what a trillion dollars? And theres prob a dozen articles on this site in less than a week about how “ya it was Obama’s decision, but it was an obvious decision, and also he’s arrogant.” Be honest, doesn’t that sound like sour grapes to you? We just caught bin Laden. And you’re all caught up in Obama’s excessive use of the words “I and me and gutsy call” in his speeches.

            It just looks petty. I know none of you care what the left thinks. But it’s good sometimes to step outside yourself for a second and look at what you’re saying. I’m glad most of you gave up on the birther thing after the last birth cert. was released, even though you didn’t want to. This is prob another one of those issues that you should just let go.

          • msctex

            But we had the luxury of a decent and modest man occupying the Oval Office for eight years, so it is simply too easy to imagine Bush’s version of the same speech. Can you in all honesty imagine Bush doing all he could to claim credit?

            So don’t accuse us of being petty about the petty grasping of the man for whom you voted. It is too easy to point out the obvious.

            As for Obama’s failing, please try and remember that he has failed from a position of overall strength few Presidents have enjoyed. He had both Houses of Congress, and a populace who wanted to believe he could walk on water. The irony is that Obama here made the one mistake which will destroy any Progressive anywhere: he governed from a position where he could actually have what he wanted.

            And look at him now. How completely must this man fail before you guys are willing to admit there may be the odd flaw in the way you look at the world? Or will you do follow the usual path, and say Obama was not allowed to go far enough?

          • 6eorge Jetson

            The irony is that Obama here made the one mistake which will destroy any Progressive anywhere: he governed from a position where he could actually have what he wanted.

          • streiff

            1. The objection is to Obama acting like we didn’t elect him to make decisions. This wasn’t a hard decision to make. In fact, of the choices he had it was by far and away the easiest one. The puffery coming from the administration and our Cretin in Chief is gag provoking.

            2. This site, and most conservatives, never subscribed to birtherism. Your side should reflect upon your own search for Bush’s Texas Air National Guard records before casting aspersions.

            I warned you above about blaming Bush for 9/11 and would have let you slide had it not been for this ill-considered screed which amounts to little more than coming into our house and crapping on the floor. Why don’t you go back to ThinkProgress and wax poetic on the nonexistent illegal immigrant SEAL

          • streiff

            “his decision to approve the mission wasn’t successful” That nearly came to pass. He got the info in March waited until May and then took a 16 hour “strategic pause” before deciding.

            Sure, if SEALs had engaged in a multi-hour firefight with Pak security forces that would have been ugly but as he knew that wasn’t going to happen, and in the event it seems as though the Pak Army formed the security cordon for the “gutsy call” to “invade” Pakistan.

            Obama has not “invaded” Afghanistan. He has not “invaded” Libya, in fact in Libya he has sold out everyone by declaring the use of ground forces and regime change to be off the table.

            I’m not going to reprint the 9/11 commission report here of talk about the gutting of the CIA under Clinton, or the Gorelick wall, or the fact the hijackers had all enter the country and enrolled in flight school and had not been investigated by the FBI despite having been reported as being suspicious… all which happened under Clinton. Or how Bush had only been in office 7 months and his transition time was truncated by your side’s mindless pursuit of “voter intent” in a handful of FL counties.

            But I will say this, blaming Bush for 9/11 gets you a quick exit from this site.

    • Doc Holliday

      but what about trying to ruin America as we know it? Should we ignore that? Why do you want “the right” to give him credit? Did the left ever give Bush credit? What is your game here?

  • paramedichess

    and still got redirected to Obama 2012. I hope this is the centerpiece of his re-election campaign because when gas is $5/gallon and unemployment is 10%, it will say something important that the president has to look 18 months back to find a time when he did the right thing.

  • Bill S

    On my browser, it goes to:

    http://www.barackobama.com/im-in-splash-2

    • Bill S
  • throwback59

    Obamacare: “Gutsy Call”
    Stimulus Plan: “Gutsy Call”
    Releasing Bith Certificate: “Gutsy Call”
    NCAA picks: “Gutsy Call”

    • SoFiMil

      and put down his golf clubs.

  • http://www.nighttwister.com NightTwister

    Soon to carry the same stigma as “Mission Accomplished”.

    • msctex

      . . .the “Mission Accomplished” stigma was a wholly fabricated, almost unbelievably cynical manipulation of Reality. The mission in question was accomplished; we then moved on to the next. “Gutsy Call” may well have involved a PR firm and focus groups before it was deemed worthy for use on the masses.

      • blooch

        And apropos of nothing, I notice that this domain is still for sale:

        http://www.missionaccomplished.com/

        Hmmmm….

      • http://www.nighttwister.com NightTwister

        End result is the same. Doesn’t matter whether it was right or wrong how the stigma got there. I see many on the right whine about this all the time, as though whining about it makes it all go away. It doesn’t.

        • msctex

          It matters because if you know the facts behind the lie, you can bring them to light and underscore the degree to which this is a consistent MO on the part of the Left.

          And good god, how is it “whining” to point out that Operation Red Dawn was the Mission in question, which was designed to capture Saddam. It of course succeeded, and rather brilliantly. The Left could not tolerate this fact, and thus pretended that Bush was irresponsibly insinuating the entire Iraq occupation had just reached a glorious end, and that there was no more work to be done.

          Am I “whining” right now, by pointing out the reality behind yet another shameless Leftist manipulation of perception?

          • http://www.nighttwister.com NightTwister

            Looks like someone needs better responses.

          • msctex

            . . .I could not agree more. Why he did not point out the obvious is a mystery to me.

            That said, it was allowed to work, which is not quite the same thing. Convincing someone 2+2=5 does not make it so. They concentrate on Perception because Reality is beyond their powers of manipulation.

  • ss396

    With his front-and-center “I, I, I, me, me, me” the President has taken personal responsibility for, and is then necessarily the first target of, any charges of crimes against humanity arising from the targeted assassination of OBL.

    Of course he has a substantial amount of immunity against such a charge, by virtue of being the progressives’ Most Awesome Individual Evah. (As always, imagine the screaming if GWB had done this.) Meanwhile, Conservatives and Republicans are unlikely to bring any such charges. So it was a pretty low-risk gutsiness from this aspect.

    Further, according him some ‘gutsiness’ assumes that the White House gang actually thought of the ‘crimes against humanity’ aspect before he went out to claim personal credit for the affair (which assumption is contrary to their record to date).

    And finally (per James Burnham I think), “When there is no alternative, there is no problem.” So it wasn’t as though there was actually a decision involved.

    But these caveats aside, his decision was gutsy.

  • arnd

    Those who are rejoicing that Obama the action hero killed Bin Laden might soon be wishing that George Bush did the deed.

    In 2008, Barack Hussein Obama was cheered in some quarters of the Muslim world for his name and his ancestry. However, there were always some rumblings in the Islamic world that it was really Obama the Apostate that had been elected president.

    As noted in the Christian Science Monitor, to Muslims like Bin Laden, “Obama is a murtad fitri, the worst type of apostate, because he was blessed by Allah to be born into the true faith of Islam.”http://www.csmonitor.com/Commentary/Opinion/2008/0519/p09s02-coop.html

    As we know, an apostate can certainly be very intolerant to members of his or her former faith. And vice versa.

    We all remember that Obama was supposedly the World’s President: the bi-racial leader who could think like a black man from Sunday to mid-Wednesday and think like a white man during the remaining part of the week. It doesn’t work that way with religions.

    It is quite possible that Obama will attract more anger over this killing than Bush would have.

  • 6eorge Jetson

    would be to tell Eric Holder to drop the CIA Interrogator Investigations or to go pound sand in retirement.

    Calling for a commando raid versus dropping bombs on a soverign suburb is gutsy? That was an easy call for a leader. But maybe it was a “Gutsy Call” for “Training Pants” Obama.

  • popster

    wears thin real quick. The great ones give credit where it is due.

  • lizaz

    now that it was a success. If the mission had failed, obama would be saying he was against it, but pressured by the Pentagon. I suspect he was afraid of failure (translation: losing votes) but finally had to go along with Panetta and the military because there wasn’t another rational choice. We will have to hear about his great, singlehanded taking down of OBL for the next 18 months. Bush and the military did it…he just happened to be living in our house at the time.

  • sanderson13

    As of this moment:

    http://www.gutsycall.com

    redirects to:

    http://www.gop.com/