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The Shame of Colin Powell

There are few spectacles more sad than to see a man burn down his own integrity. Watching someone who has lived their life according to a certain ethos, in this case I will be referring to “Duty. Honor. Country.”, and callously cast that lodestar aside for no discernable reason other than to settle a score shames those who witness the act nearly as much as it shames the perpetrator. Nearly.

Some very few times we are given the opportunity to appropriately redress a wrong. I say appropriately because a wrong needs to be righted in the same manner in which it was inflicted. A private apology never atones for a public insult. When that opportunity presents itself and is declined one is left with no other possible conclusion than one is dealing with a person devoid of honor and integrity.

This past weekend retired general and former Secretary of State Colin Powell was presented with the golden opportunity to right a grave injustice he inflicted upon colleagues, upon the man to whom he owed his loyalty, and upon his nation.

He not only declined to do so, he dismissed the notion that he had anything to do with the wrong.

Of course I’m referring to the infamous Valerie Plame Affair wherein a CIA employee operating in deep cover at CIA headquarters in Langley had her cover accidentally “blown” by the late Robert Novak after her blowhard husband wrote an op-ed about what he may or may not have learned while “drinking sweet mint tea” with various kleptocrats in Niger. We all know the story on that. The source was Deputy Secretary of State Richard Armitage and Vice President Dick Cheney’s chief of staff was eventually and shamefully convicted of having different recollections of a conversation than did Tim Russert.

The Plame Affair re-entered the news this week with the publication of Vice President Cheney’s (say it again and savor the way it rolls off the tongue… Vice President Cheney, Vice President Cheney) memoir, “In My Time: A Personal and Political Memoir.”

In his memoir, Vice President Cheney has this to say (by way of Politico)

Cheney recalls that during the CIA leak investigation, Deputy Secretary of State Rich Armitage stayed silent: “And, it pains me to note, so did his boss, Colin Powell, whom Armitage told he was [Robert] Novak’s source on October 1, 2003. Less than a week later, … there was a cabinet meeting. … [T]he press came in for a photo opportunity, and there were questions about who had leaked the information that Wilson’s wife worked at the CIA. The president said he didn’t know, but wanted the truth. Thinking back, I realize that one of the few people in the world who could have told him the truth, Colin Powell, was sitting right next to him.”

There is the Plame Affair in a nutshell.

All Colin Powell had to do to stop the budding scandal is stand up and tell the truth. Whether in private to his boss, President George Bush, or in public is immaterial.
On Sunday, Powell was invited on to Face the Nation to talk about Cheney’s book.  This is what he had to say about his role in the Plame Affair.

Then he goes on to talk about the Valerie Plame affair, and tries to lay it all off on Mister Rich Armitage in the State Department and me. But the fact of the matter is when Mister Armitage realized that he was the source for Bob Novak’s column that caused all the difficulty and he called me immediately, two days after the President launched the investigation and what we did was we called the Justice Department. They sent it over the FBI. The FBI had all the information that Mister Armitage’s participation in this immediately. And we called Al Gonzalez, the President’s counsel, and told him that we had information. The FBI asked us not to share any of this with anyone else, as did Mister Gonzalez. And so, if the White House operatives had come forward as readily as Mister Armitage had done, then we wouldn’t have gone on for two more months with the FBI trying to find out what happened in the White House. There wouldn’t have been special counsel appointed by the Justice Department who spent two years trying to get to the bottom of it. And we wouldn’t have the mess that we subsequently had. And so if the White House and the operatives in the White House and Mister Cheney’s staff and elsewhere in the White House had been as forthcoming with the FBI as Mister Armitage was, this problem would not have reached the dimensions that it reached.

From this point on I’ll borrow heavily from the Washington Post’s housebroken conservative, Jennifer Rubin.

The extent of the dishonesty is quite stunning. In a Cabinet meeting on October 7, 2003, the White House press corps bombarded President George W. Bush with questions about who the leaker was. Bush said he didn’t know, but there would be an investigation to get to the bottom of it. Powell, who had been told by Armitage just days earlier that Armitage was the leaker, sat there next to the president, stone silent. Not very loyal or honest, was it?

Moreover, the notion that Armitage’s slip was somehow inadvertent is belied by Bob Woodward’s taped interview in which Armitage repeatedly mentions Joe Wilson’s wife, evidently doing his best to get Plame’s identity out there. This was no slip of the tongue. Woodward testified that when he spoke to Libby sometime later that Libby never said anything about Plame.

At issue here is not simply Powell and Armitage’s deception and undermining of their commander in chief. There was a victim, one whom neither Powell or Armitage has ever apologized to. The person who ultimately paid the price for this was Scooter Libby. Had the president and the country known about Armitage, a special prosecutor would never have been appointed. Libby was eventually convicted on the basis of a he-said-he-said dispute between his recollection and that of the late Tim Russert. (Charges concerning Libby’s alleged comments to Judy Miller were dismissed, and he was acquitted on the count involving Matt Cooper.) A compelling case for Libby’s innocence can be found in this account by Stan Crock.

I never had a problem understanding Powell’s discomfiture with the Bush Administration. If Powell was ever an actual Republican, he was of the Nelson Rockefeller variety. He was not up to competing with Donald Rumsfeld for influence, especially in the aftermath of 9/11. He was brought into the administration to give it credibility in foreign policy — and one can hardly recall without pain the image of him appearing with then-candidate George Bush on the campaign trail and looking like he’d rather be having a root canal — and found foreign policy playing the role of horse-holder to two wars. Having said that, he owed a debt of loyalty to the President who appointed him and to the nation. He also owned common courtesy to a fellow human being, Scooter Libby, whose career and reputation he helped destroy to settle some perceived slight. Last Sunday, he owed us all the candor he failed to deliver back in 2003.

He didn’t and in the process has proven himself to be a petty and inconsequential man.

COMMENTS

  • http://www.examiner.com/x-1597-Charlotte-Law--Politics-Examiner Mike gamecock DeVine

    http://gamecock.blogtownhall.com/2006/09/17/conservative_world_beginning_to_doubt_moral_basis_of_colin_powells_acts_and_omissions.thtml

    http://www.redstate.com/gamecock/2008/10/19/colin-powell-betrays-america-when-not-followi/

    • mikeymike143

      actually i would have rather had cheney as POTUS instead of w. i am not a fan of w at all but i really like his brother jeb. you know most people figured jeb would be president instead of w but jeb lost a nailbiter to lawton childs in 94(the same year w was elected governor of texas). jeb remains very popular here in florida and would crush nelson if he ran for his senate seat.

  • banzaibob

    Mr. Secretary you had a chance to correct the record but you blew it and another person paid for the sins of one of your subordinates. Why, because you did not want yourself or your department to look bad. Where is that honor you leaned at the military academy that you should report any wrong doing?

    I guess your just another low life politician.

    PS

    How is that endorsement of Obama working out?

    • acat

      Cats are not permitted to serve, and I’d have been 4-F for a couple reasons anyway, but .. IIRC, that was one of the nicknames Powell had during the later point of his service career.

      Mew

    • streiff

      Powell is not a USMA graduate. He’s ROTC from City College of NY

      • banzaibob

        that explains it. Oh wait he is still a retired senior officer and should know better.

      • wennejunk

        Sadly, not all who graduate uphold them, while many who did not graduate from USMA do maintain and hold to those ideals.

        However, many do not.

        Colin Powell neither represents West Point (not a graduate) nor the ideals.

        History will remember Bush in a good light. It will continue to remember Eisenhower, Patton, Bradley and MacArthur and Schwartzkopf.

        However, in 20 years,if they remember anything of Powell, they will remember a disloyal man. Worse, most people will simply say “who is that?” when the name Colin Powell is raised.

        • msjallen

          how people change when they are rubbed the wrong way and show their true colors. There was a time I would have voted for Powell for president and I am glad it never came about. I no longer respected him when he chose to support O.
          We need politicians who love America more than themselves.

    • bs61

      This POS!

      • http://www.examiner.com/x-1597-Charlotte-Law--Politics-Examiner Mike gamecock DeVine

        or early 90s, and you will not recognize the beltway creature we see now and have for the last 8-10 years.

        • gritsandall

          Before Powell came into Bush’s cabinet, I heard one pundit describe him as a “reluctant warrior.” That was all I needed to hear. In our military, we may want a man who is reluctant to start a war; we don’t want one who is reluctant to fight a war once war is declared or we have bee attacked. Powell was a reluctant male. I’m not sure I can describe him as a man. Men stand up and do the right thing no matter what.

    • hit912

      He didn’t go to West Point

    • kingskid

      Colin Powell was never a principled man, nor was he a true Republican. He has always been an opportunist, and the only reason he gave lip service to being a republican, was that as a black democrat, he would be just one of the crowd, but as a coservative republican he would stand out, and be pushed into leadership positions by the people that mattered.

      After he betryed the Bush Administration, and it no longer mattered, you see how quickly he reverted to type by voting for Cbama.

      I have never trusted him.

      • westcoastpatriette

        .

  • Uma Richie

    has anyone heard from Liz lately?

    • http://www4.webng.com/rickbull/lostlucky/ rickbull

      and Keep(ing) America Safe.

  • earlgrey

    appearance he makes.

  • Michael M. Keohane

    Streiff : I met then “butter-bar” Powell at the Ranger Mountain Camp as he was completing the Ranger course.

    It was the opinion of the enlisted Ranger instructors that he would go far. I spoke to him on his last day since we were both from the Bronx. I had great expectations as to how far he might go and that opinion was shared by my fellow instructors. He had “command presence.” even as a “butterbar.”

    He has been a disapointment. As far as “Duty, Honor, Country” goes, Powell did not attend West Point but was in ROTC at City College.

    Colonel David Hackworth coined the term “Perfumed Princes” and Colin Powell has earned that term.

    He has demonstrated that he is for himself, first, last & always.

    • streiff

      USMA, the whole officer corps is supposed to toe the Duty Honor Country line.

  • rightwingmom52

    Such was the case with the interview on Dateline last night with VP Dick Cheney (savoring the way that rolls off my keyboard). Cheney is indeed a man among men. Every time the interviewer tried a gotcha or reinterpretation of what Cheney said in his book, he simply said things like “If I had intended to say that, I would have,” or “I’m an honest person, and I told the truth.” He did not have nice things to say about the way Powell or Condi Rice carried out their duties, but said it wasn’t personal. He did not quibble or hesitate when asked if he thought we should still waterboard (he does). When asked about his 13% approval rating when he left office, he said something akin to he didn’t serve in order to be popular. I thank God he was in the right place at the right time.

    • http://www4.webng.com/rickbull/lostlucky/ rickbull

      I loved the way he dismembered John Edwards in the vice presidential debate in 2004.

  • Tbone

    He is well spoken but I wouldn’t trust even while I was looking at him.

    • runner12

      However much I may disagree with him and find his actions dishonorable, I believe he earned his way in life and did not rely on government intervention to be successful.

      I must admit, I find your assertion kind of offensive. But maybe you were just being facetious.

      • http://www.examiner.com/x-1597-Charlotte-Law--Politics-Examiner Mike gamecock DeVine

        of aff action who didn’t need it.

        • acat

          affirmative action – in that there’s an asterisk of “could they have made it without” that will be harder to overcome than any barriers affirmative action could have helped with.

          Mew

          • http://www.examiner.com/x-1597-Charlotte-Law--Politics-Examiner Mike gamecock DeVine

            nt

      • Tbone

        positions he attained without being Black. Granted, he is way above Obama but don’t think his race wasn’t a factor in many opportunities given him during his career.

        Don’t agree? Then tell me when and why he lost the abilities we thought he had to become the slug he is now.

        • http://www.examiner.com/x-1597-Charlotte-Law--Politics-Examiner Mike gamecock DeVine

          Hey, randomness in those that rise in govt is the rule, not the exception, in any event. If it hadn’t have been Powell, it would have been someone else that worked hard to get there, albeit with the lick of opportunity?

          • Tbone

            Powell is part of my generation. I saw first hand in the late 60′s the birth of giving Blacks preferential treatment. Granted, at first it began with smart, hard-working kids but later drifted down to the Barack and Michelle Obama level.

            Besides, quit arguing against yourself. Upthread you claim that Powell benefited from AA though you think he didn’t need it, How then did he benefit?

            I say he benefited at the expense of some of his white contemporaries. I saw it happen in academics and athletics. You want to tell me it didn’t happen in the military? Baloney.

          • davesinsanantonio

            we are supposed to do things in this country. We do not convict on “probability”. So, it is incumbent on you to offer evidence of your assertions as it applies to Powell, not just generalities or empty claims without backing. I am not a fan of affirmative action, but painting all blacks as unqualified except for their skin color is just as wrong as saying all whites are racists.

          • Tbone

            Where did I say or do this? “but painting all blacks as unqualified except for their skin color ”

            I didn’t, and you are using a liberal scumbag tactic of trying to put words in my mouth.

            And Sparky, most convictions are based on “probability” or have you never heard of people being convicted on circumstantial evidence.

            But, thanks for giving me the opportunity to correct your ignorance and your intellectual dishonesty. I hope you accept it with the good grace that it is offered.

          • postanalog

            is for the courtroom only! The cop who cites you for a crime, certainly doesn’t presume your innocence.

          • http://www.examiner.com/x-1597-Charlotte-Law--Politics-Examiner Mike gamecock DeVine

            justify his promotions, but clearly he was quite up to the job as much as any white in said positions who also were picked based on ancillary distinguishing factors. I just think that the one who makes the allegation (like a Plaintiff that initiates a lawsuit) should bear the burden of proof of their allegations. You, not I, made a claim..

            Tbone in rare or medium rare form? smile

        • http://www.examiner.com/x-1597-Charlotte-Law--Politics-Examiner Mike gamecock DeVine

          Maybe he is a peter principle exemplar? He rose above his competence? But really, he is just the typical James Baker type, too wedded to Beltway pals praise and it finally caught up with him, but as i show in several columns going back to 2006! I think he sold out long ago beginning with his bad advice to Bush41 re letting Saddam retain power and in abandoning Clinton in Somalia…

          http://gamecock.blogtownhall.com/2006/09/17/conservative_world_beginning_to_doubt_moral_basis_of_colin_powells_acts_and_omissions.thtml

          http://www.redstate.com/gamecock/2008/10/19/colin-powell-betrays-america-when-not-followi/

      • Scope

        into the high level military position that he did, all on his own. When push came to shove, he more or less threw those that had faith in him, under the bus. He then endorsed Obama, who, without doubt was in favor of affirmative action, no? What did Obama ever say or do to earn his respect? Obama was, and is, still an unvetted president. There is still so much not known to Americans, about Obama’s past , yet Powell went with an empty slate with his endorsement, why? There is no other earthly reason to understand Powell’s endorsement other than a black supporting another black. Allen West, obviously a black, didn’t fold under the banner of blacks must support blacks. He has been a Rep. that has understood the dangers of Obama, and yes has had many Uncle Tom junk against him by the liberals, but, he isn’t willing to go with someone who must be an embarrassment to the black community. Powell has really never had the first excuse to support Obama, unless his race is more important than the direction of the country.

        I myself chose to not be so willing to give some a pass.

        • westcoastpatriette

          for being gradually more ostracized within the Republican party. He just turned out to be a squishy Rep. with little loyalty toward anyone but himself so endorsing Obama was his way of flipping everyone off.

          Not a very sophisticated analysis but then since when has there been a lot of statesmanship coming out of Washington?

          • Tbone

            supported McCain.

          • davesinsanantonio

            he did not endorse the one in the party he had no real affinity for, but for the guy in the other party where his true allegiance was.

        • runner12

          that he got where he was today via affirmative action and not his own merit. I tend to agree upthread with acat and GC.

          Unless someone has proof that he was unqualified his entire military career and only rose to prominence because of affirmative action, it is wrong to say that.
          That is a judgement based on his skin color and borderline, if not, racist. Sorry to use that word, but so it is.

          Powell has acted dishonorably and his support of Obama is unforgivable, but I will not cast aspersions on him regarding his personal success because of it. I will keep my criticisms to his actions, there is enough there to disagree with for me.

          • Tbone

            because you are willing to give Powell a pass because of his skin color and in fear that people will think you are racist if you don’t.

            Baloney.

            Just answer the question, if Powell was such an exemplary fellow to merit all his advancements, then when to he change to become the backstabbing ingrate who undermined his boss, the President of the United States and exhibited the incredibly poor judgment of endorsing Obama. Just why was that?

          • Repair_Man_Jack

            I was personally disappointed by the low level hatred and bile detected in Runner12′s comment to which you replied. In other words, T-Bone, contend against the logic of a comment that bothers you. But please lay off the name calling.

            Thanks.

          • Tbone

            Don’t expect me to.

          • Repair_Man_Jack

            It was implied that questioning Powell’s qualifications was racist. I disagree with that part of Runner’s comment. A lot of stupid people get promoted. Human resource work is a crapshoot. But you weren’t singled out personally as a racist.

          • Scope

            I had said that Powell may have earned his positions while in the army, but, there was no earthly reason for him to support Obama, who is without doubt an affirmative action president, meaning that he is in favor of affirmative action goals and quotas. I don’t think after 2 1/2 years anyone can doubt that he has proven that he is just following through with his community organizing goals to help blacks and minorities. It was a mistake for me to say that he was unvetted. He in fact was vetted and found wanting in many ways, yet the MSM ignored his record. How many times have we heard the story that many whites voted for him out of “white guilt.”

            Colin Powell has long been an strong affirmative action supporter. He has been saying for a long time that we are not a race neutral society, and therefore, if it takes quotas to reach diversity in our colleges, military and etc. then that at least is a way to give blacks and all minorities a way to “catch up.”

            From Powell’s book, My American Journey, which he wrote in 1995, in his own words-

            “I want the government to be vigorous and active in ensuring the protections of the Constitution to all Americans. Our Constitution and national conscience demand that every American be accorded dignity and respect, receive the same treatment under the law, and enjoy equal opportunity. The hard-won civil rights legislation of the 1960′s, which I benefited from, was fought for by presently derided liberals, over the opposition of those hiding behind transparent arguments of “states” rights.”

            In a 2009 interview with ABC I believe, he reaffirmed his positions with respect to it still not being a race neutral society, and that if it takes the quotas dictated in the affirmative action laws, to achieve diversity, than so be it. He has long disparaged the Republican party as not being inclusive. He doesn’t seem to grasp the concept that it is the Republican party that would take the minorities off the liberal plantations, that keep them needy and depending on the government for their equality and every need. As seen in the quote above, Powell clearly is a product of the liberal indoctrination of government redistribution.

            I again, reiterate my position that Powell endorsed and supported Obama because of their shared goal of government forced equality, which is impossible to achieve. There will always be segments of society that look down on other races, classes, religions, genders and etc. I haven’t witnessed the disappearance of the KKK or the Black Panthers.

            BTW, there are other references in Powell’s book where he refers to his rise in the Army due to affirmative action. Bill Clinton once said that Powell was a product of affirmative action, with respect to his rise in the military, at about the same time frame that Powell’s book was written. Powell had no problems with Clinton’s arguments, he’d rather just keep saying that the Republicans are not inclusive, yet he was totally against allowing gays to serve openly in the military. Go figure.

            If that makes me a racist, than so be it. Seems there isn’t a human alive on this earth that has been accused of being a racist for one reason or another.

          • Tbone

            Thank you.

          • aesthete

            You’ve called members in good standing “racist” (runner12), liars (daveinsanantonio) and based on their objection to your unproven assertion that Powell’s career was the result of AA. Runner12 is 100% right regarding her characterization of your posts: you just don’t like that she correctly noted the logical implications of your statement. Of course, it is always possible that you just didn’t comprehend the logical implications of your own statement, and that you’re just a fool, rather than a racist. Whatever works for you, I guess.

            Follow-up question: how would a white man have handled the Gulf War in a manner superior to how Powell handled it?

          • Tbone

            with your intellectually inferior nonsense. Cripes, why don’t you get a job or volunteer some good works instead of chasing around stalking me? It’s rather pathetic you dragging your useless arguments around like a man with a lame leg.

          • streiff

            Powell has said as much and if you were in the Army during the 80s you know that promotion boards had quotas for race and sex. Even Slate has written about Powell and affirmative action. http://www.slate.com/id/2097/

            As far as I’m concerned, I don’t like the slanging going on here but anyone who says Powell didn’t receive preference in promotion and assignments based on his race is just beclowning himself.

            This isn’t to say Powell isn’t talented, but he wasn’t talented enough to have been promoted as fast as he was and to the positions he held based on his education and record.

          • aesthete

            and I agree based on what little I saw/heard secondhand from my brief stint as an enlisted Airman.

            I just don’t think much of Tbone’s unfounded contention that Powell never would have made rank/had no merit, given that TBone has only his opinion and a complete lack of knowledge of either particulars or generalities related to the military to back up his statement. Heck, guy didn’t even have logic (good or bad) to back up his opinion.

            I’ll admit that I have a thing against people who exclusively post vague feelings or insults, though, and that my laziness that resulted makes my argument above more broad than I meant it to be.

          • Tbone

            Hey, I only make up stuff when I have to. This isn’t one of those times.

          • runner12

            I cringe using that word because of how watered-down that quite serious word has become. I was responding to Scope’s comment and clarified I did not think that it is right to assume that because someone is successful and black they achieved their standing based on affirmative action. I think it somewhat racist and I stand by that.

            I think that Colonel Powell’s poor actions are a result of lack of character and a lack of integrity. I think he thought he could get away with it because of his position.

            Regarding affirmative action, I think it began with good intentions but has resulted in devestating consequences. Full disclosure, I was not alive during the time affirmative action began. But from what I have read, it seems as early as the 70′s it had resulted in reverse discrimination. Even worse, it created a condescending approach towards Black Americans that promoted the meme that standards needed to be lowered so that Blacks could achieve. I know that racism was a problem back then, but surely there was a better small government solution than the blanket affirmative action approach.

            I might also add that many Leftists claim affirmative action “helped” women. As a woman I utterly reject that notion. I think that it has been nothing but an embarrassment for women. As a woman, If you cannot achieve on your own merit and meet the required qualifications, you have no business using affirmative action as a crutch.

          • runner12

            Tbone, I know that you are not generalizing that comment to all Black Americans. It also seems that Powell himself has said that he has benefitted from affirmative action ( see streiff above).

          • Tbone

            nt

        • http://www.examiner.com/x-1597-Charlotte-Law--Politics-Examiner Mike gamecock DeVine

          are there mainly due to merit? I don’t.

          • aesthete

            nt

          • runner12

            NT.

  • indypen

    Good luck trying to absolve Cheney and his gang from any wrongdoing in the Valerie Plame scandal. Libby was convicted of obstruction of justice, making false statements and two counts of perjury. I don’t think that was Powell’s fault.
    If Cheney was a real man he would be able to admit when he was wrong. Instead all we get in his memoir is vacuous bravado and a blatant avoidance of addressing any of the controversial issues that plagued his tenure. He only seems able to accept responsibility if things go right. And at times he’s even delusional about that. All he wants to do is blame other people when it goes wrong. Cheney’s a petty chump.

    • rightwingmom52

    • glorybee

      If Powell had told the truth about Armitage, Libby would not have been targeted. Disgusting and yes, shameful.

      • Ausonius

        The best I have ever been able to deduce is that W. believed it would hurt his legacy…???

        His legacy as far as I am concerned is in fact damaged by the lack of a pardon!

    • earlgrey

      I think we found one.

      It is pretty clear that if Powell and Armitage would have been more honest and upfront (which we would expect of all of our elected officials) than the entire country would have been spared this awful ordeal.

      Powell did a disservice to the administraiton and the President he was supposed to be serving under.

      Would you like a subordinate of yours to screw you over in the workplace a la Powell, by not be honest and upfront about a breech in protocol?

    • streiff

      I thought I’d just makes a few points on your post.

      1. I don’t need to absolve the Bush Administration on anything. The Plame investigation was a travesty perpetrated by a modern day Javert.

      2. Libby’s convictions are ludicrous. They involve nothing more than a conflict of memories that Fitzgerald criminalized in his effort to string out his 15 minutes of fame.

      3. You haven’t read the book so you don’t know what he says about the totality of his tenure.

      • edintexas

        “2. Libby?s convictions are ludicrous. They involve nothing more than a conflict of memories that Fitzgerald criminalized in his effort to string out his 15 minutes of fame.”

        If Powell was telling the truth, that the Bureau was informed of Armitage’s involvement , then I have been mistaken for a number of years. I believed that even the Bureau would find out within the first 2 weeks of case work that Plame did not meet the requirments for protection under 50 U.S.C. ? 421 IIntelligence Identities Protection Act). Apparently they found out even sooner than 2 weeks, courtesy of The Sec. State. I have not been mistaken is believing that Fitzgerald kept the “investigation” running for almost 2 years and needed to justify the expenditure of time and money by convicting someone of something. Besides, it was the political thing to do.

    • Michael Dugas

      “All he wants to do is blame other people when it goes wrong. Cheney?s a petty chump.”

      Valerie Plame outed herself long before this made up issue. She and her husband blabbed to everyone about her job and she was listed as a CIA Agent in the Who’s Who listing of her husband….by her husband.

      And Libby was railroaded. Bush was wrong not to pardon him just like it was wrong to send a man to prison for not remembering the existence of a past email. You want to send some real crooks to jail I could recommend a few. Chris Dodd, Barnet Franks, Harry Reid, Nancy Pelosi……..all of them have enriched their own wallets at the expense of the taxpayer and a couple played a direct part in the mortgage market collapse.

      Before you crucify the man Indy get to know him. I’m sure he’d like to take you hunting.

      • mikeymike143

        who was more concerned about his so called ”legacy” than doing the right thing. for someone to try to blame cheney for the plame situation or libby sitting in jail is just crazy. cheney was a man of honor and our country was blessed to have him as VP.

  • johnt

    when that occurred. His admirers won’t spill to much ink on that.
    As S of S he was a nothing, but made sure he kept the media on his side, a leak here, a leak there, quite a guy. Four star general, a buck private in character.

    • streiff

      he was a major and Assistant G-3 for the Americal Division

      • johnt

        My error. Though it does appear he did his best to downplay a written assertions of brutality when asked to investigate a particular letter.
        In any case, he’s a snake.
        Thanks for the correction.

  • jiminga

    was that her friends, neighbors, golf buddies, etc., etc. all knew she worked for the CIA. And when she was “outed” she was driving a desk at Langley and was not a “deep cover” operative.

    Bottom line? Nothing but gotcha politics.

    • Michael Dugas

      They bragged about her job all over town and her husband listed her as a CIA Agent in his Who’s Who entry. Libby was railroaded and Bush made a mistake not pardoning Libby.

      • izoneguy

        Fair Game


        Lefty director Doug Liman’s disaster of a movie tried to play up the Plame incident. I did not see this movie. And will not.
        Budget was 22 million and made 24 million which is a disaster.
        They released right before the Nov 08 election.
        Get ready for Obama gets Osama in Oct 2012……

  • Darin_H

    Huntsman/Powell 2012!

    The good news is that Huntsman would not have any boss to be disloyal to (well except for 310,000,000) and Powell would only have 1…

  • runner12

    would not stand up and tell Pres. Bush the truth when he knew it. Powell has been more than willing to play the poor, deceived victim regarding weapons of mass destruction in Iraq ( a meme that I even bought in to) and point fingers at others. Yet he avoids discussion of his own deception of the President and will not admit he was wrong.

  • Marcus_Traianus

    There has always been some controversy amongst Powell’s contemporary’s about his greatness as a military commander- which I frankly never understood. On paper, he appears to me a man of integrity, valor and honor. Obviously, the big army thought enough of Powell to place him in one of its highest positions. I understand there is a certain amount of politics in that, but there still must be a base upon which to build the mountain.

    Even now I somewhat conclusively believe a segment of his military detractors are from the sour grapes club.But in their defense, they may have seen this current side of Powell underneath his military accomplishments and rise in rank.

    Frankly, I ultimately believe Powell likes the DC cocktail circuit a bit too much. He therefore excessively tries to impress his friends at the expense of everyone else; throwing integrity to the side like some useless accoutrement. In the end, Powell is a shadow of who he was at the end of what I still believe was an productive military career. He should have politely declined entry to the civilian side. at least then we could still call him honorable.

    • Raven

      “but there still must be a base upon which to build the mountain.”
      I have been inside the military for 28 years and have seen the bad with the good at all levels.
      There is often Not a base upon which to build any mountain. And at bird colonel and above, politics is Everything.

  • izoneguy

    And Barack Obama, another petty and inconsequential man will gladly take his endorsement. They were made for each other.

  • gawken

    History has yet to really take a hard look at that decision, but we can. The world might be a very different place today.

    Had the US, leading a dominant coalition ( already in place) decided to depose Saddam then,, here’s what might have been:

    The Arab states would have looked at the US as willing to use military force for regime change. Bush may have won reelection.

    The rise of terrorist groups and regimes in the middle east may have taken a different course. OBL and AlQueda wouldn’t have had as much support from Arab states, now more fearful of US`retribution.

    5000 or more Kurds, and tens of thousands of Iraqis, would have avoided death at the hands of Saddam.

    9/11 may not have happened.

    3000+ American troops might be alive today, and tens of thousands more not wounded.

    Powell wantd a clean war..short decisive, minimal casualties. he felt the US military had to win back its confidence after Vietnam. But ultimately, he decided against taking Bagdad, and taking down Saddam, and he alone convinced Bush to halt, presetn terms, and allow Saddam to remain in power.

    Nearly all of the administration,and the vast majority of the military leadsership, were opposed. Iraq was beaten..their military force utterly destroyed. We had Five times the force available in the Iraq war..we could have taken Bagdad with virtually no opposition or resistance..the Iraq military was completely destroyed and utterly demoralized.

    Powell failed to exercise the great lesson of command…seize the moment.

    He has much to answer for.

    • skorrent1

      The entire military operation was planned with a limited objective in accordance with the UN directive. The collapse of military resistance did not mean that extending the operation hundreds of miles into Iraq over bombed-out roads and bridges, with the immediate loss of support of the arab allies, would have been a piece of cake. The operation COULD have been planned differently, but under the circumstances Powell gave wise military advice. HW accepted it.

      Your argument reminds me of Patton’s claim that he “could have taken Berlin” if he hadn’t run out of gas. Well, duh!

    • http://www.examiner.com/x-1597-Charlotte-Law--Politics-Examiner Mike gamecock DeVine

      glorious coalition control US policy. Clearly we lost some detterant effect that encouraged the bin Ladens of the world by leaving Saddam in power.

    • aesthete

      1) In the event of regime change, we would have no legitimacy or help from the broad coalition that we’d just finished assembling — at most, it would be us, the Anglos, and bit players. In many ways, this would have been a more difficult occupation than

      2) Bush’s re-election prospects had nothing to do with foreign policy: Gulf War I was at the time seen as a foreign policy coup for Bush, and was still seen as a strength of his going into the ’92 election. Clinton was elected on account of the poor economy. (Moreover, considering that Bush’s Iraq War approval peaked at the initial invasion and went downhill from there, I doubt that it would have helped his approval rating.)

      3) Iraq had very little to do with terrorism at all: there is no reason to believe that the tragectory of OBL/Al Qaeda would have been any different upon regime change in Iraq. Certainly, regime change in 2003 did very little directly to lessen the influence of Al Qaeda. (Though our actions in Yemen and Afghanistan clearing out Al Qaeda, and Al Qaeda’s willingness to make Iraq a battlefield, sure helped.)

      4) This move would have just served to make Iran the dominant player to an even greater extent than has happened now. (In retrospect, “dual containment” was an absolute failure.)

      5) As far as humanitarian concerns go, civilian deaths in Iraq related to OIF are somewhere in the 10s of thousands. Most of those civilian deaths are due to the insurgency, sectarian infighting, and the like, but it goes to show that resolving humanitarian crises like Iraq using military force is oftentimes self-defeating and not at all a straightforward proposition. (At any rate, our foreign policy shouldn’t be held hostage by humanitarian crises — that would require that we invade the DRC, Sudan, Somalia, etc.)

      The problem with Iraq was never in defeating its conventional forces: under Bush II, we had very few problems on that front. The problem was *occupying* the country, not *invading*.

  • dmacleo

    18th mp brigade attached to V corps frankfurt. where I started disliking him decades ago.
    lucky I only met once on his out ceremony in 87 and he was snobbish prick then.
    most full birds at that time had honor, least the ones I met, and respected people.

  • jaykali

    Which way is the wind blowing this morning?

  • Vannek

    Powell is just like Obama. He strikes out at and blames other people when it’s he who is at fault. It’s the mark of a narcissist to shift blame.

    • ashland_avenue

      1. Stand for something
      2. Accept responsibility for all mistakes
      3. Avoid jealousy
      4. Play the dealt hand

    • http://ja-js.blogtownhall.com RME KRNL

      I’m a retired Army colonel and once admired and respected Powell. Not any more. In endorsing Obama in 2008, he proved himself to be a RINO. In letting Scooter Libby take the blame for Plame, he proved himself disloyal to the president and a coward. In much of what he’s done since then, he repeatedly proves himself to be self-serving and all too full of himself.

      BTW, just another note about the Valerie Plame affair, yes, she and Joe Wilson, her duplicitous SOS husband, did brag all over DC about her job, but at the time of the so-called leak, she was still at the CIA, but if she had ever been an undercover operative as alleged, she was at that time in a mid-level management position and not a “spy” whose cover was blown. That was all baloney.

  • ihateliberals

    Powell was one of the RINO’s from Bush 41. He stopped Bush from finishing the job in Iraq the first time. If Bush had taken Baghdad there might not have been a 9/11 and Bush 43 would have been a Ho-hum President. Why Bush 43 kept Powell on his watch is just crazy. Powell proved his RINOism by backing down when he should have been aggressive against the Iraq regime. Then he goes to the UN for Bush 43 to get us back into a war that might have been avoided with further investigation. Again and Again when Powell gets under pressure he folds. That is one sign of a RINO. recently I heard him on one of the talk shows defending his vote for Obama. He sounded like one of the Tobacco Company lawyers defending cigarets.

  • popster

    for Colin Powell. A great military career thrown away for political fame.

  • rubb

    Powell’s primary job was to make sure the State Department took appropriate action to execute the president’s foreign policy. I don’t think anyone can make the argument that he succeeded in that task. The State Department failed to practice tough, realistic policies with foreign governments that would have made the wars much easier and less expensive.
    I also took special note of his performance on TV the other day. He did not deny that he was guilty of undermining the president’s policies, he just complained about “cheap shots”. It is typical of Washington types when they are guilty as charged to complain about the accuser, or the method of accusation, but never really deny the charge. They can’t bring themselves to speak the bold lie in public, they prefer the hidden, slinky method of subterfuge and slime.

  • Raven

    Name a single one not violated both times.

    West Point or not, those are the Army Values. They are drilled into every one of us at every level.

    If a general cannot keep those values and will not be held accountable for violating them, then how do they expect privates to do so?

  • gunslingr45

    lost me at endorsing Obumber. What R (even a RINO) would do this? Gotta wonder why he let an innocent man go to jail though. Headed out to buy a book :)

  • doncorleone

    His political ambiguity is a mirror, in an attempt to appease his contemporaries, just as eisenhower. I think that part of powell’s “political” overview was shaped by his being intimidated by his own “kind”. His domestic staff was constantly picking up oreos from off of his front lawn, hurled there by all of those “sensitive”, liberal new yorkers.

  • carolynr

    It was apparent to me that Colin Powell was no friend of the administration. I first noticed this, when Powell taking it upon himself, would contradict the Bush Administration every time he was in front of the cameras. I remember saying to my husband…what’s with this guy…every time he gets a chance…he disses Bush. Then it came to the Plame fiasco…I had even figured out it was Armitage…and I’m not in the administration. Powell could have cleared it up then…and he could have cleared it up now. However…there are some people born with courage…and some not…even if they are generals.

  • 2warabnvet

    when he was a Brigadier General. At that time I found him to be very impressive. Unfortunately, he has gone downhill from that point. There’s a saying in the Army that you get a lobotomy along with your eagles when you’re promoted to Colonel. Powell just waited a little longer for his.

  • nkqx57a

    However, I believe he will come back to the Republican side of things once he awakens from the Obamism dream when it turns into the nightmare we all fear.

    Colin Powell?s beliefs are not the beliefs of the Democratic Party and the sooner he realizes this the sooner he will come to understand that endorsing Obama was a big mistake. Listening to his endorsement of Obama I could tell that the only reason for his endorsement was race. That in its self is my disappointment in Colin Powell. I believe him to be above that sort of thinking. I too wanted to see the day that a ?black? would be President of these United States. But not Obama?for Mr. ?HOPE AND CHANGE? with a total lack of grit, has both at home and aboard; been tested early and often. He has failed these tests? NOW WHAT?? Can we afford his continued failures?

  • jericho777

    I’ll tell you who did suffer,
    and that was Mr Scooter Libby. This man was attacked viciously and without remorse for something he had no direst involvement in. He lost his career and his name for a bunch of witch hunting witches, and now has a felony hanging over him. And what made the insult more insulting, the sorry piss ants who went after him were shocked by his sentence. There were even several Libs who voiced their disgust over it, and, and Bush did not give him a full pardon, what the hell, he didn’t want to be perceived as doing Scooter any favors, man I betcha that stung Scooter… So this made Powell, from the start to loose any and all respect I had for him, which until that time, was quite a lot, even against my Poppa, a Retired Marine’s advice, that Powell was not a very trust worthy individual…I would have loved seeing Scooter vindicated, he paid the horrible price that was intended for the corrupt and liars, to bad President Bush didn’t give the man exactly what he deserved, a Full Pardon, meant for an innocent man… :( Your Scum of the earth Powell!

  • berengaria

    How many years, has Mr. Powell been trolled in front of us with his snide “Obama) like demeanor? I believe that as a nondescript officer in the military, he was given the thumbs up by President Reagan or someone on his staff, and from that day forward he’s been callculating the position where he can do the most harm to the country. It appears that his anger at this country rivals the anger of the little man in the Whitehouse. Mr. Powell owes everything to the horrible legacy of Affirmative Action. Thanks to Vice-president Cheney for being brave enough to out both Powell and Rice. Thank you, Berengaria