All of the Bachmann people out there who are complaining about Gardisil need to READ THE CONSTITUTION and the Federalist Papers. There is nothing that stops STATE governments from acting in the interests of public health. That is what TEXAS did. I get the point that if everything were opt-out it might be a threat to Liberty on a practical level but we’re talking cancer here.

women are just not any good at being a politician. Yes yes, I know men are not doing to good at it either, but at least they dont make these rookie mistakes. Thanks to: pelosi, cynthia mckinny, any senator from california, palin, debbie slauserman-whatever, angle, O’Donnell, sometimes hillary, and now bachmann….its going to be several decades from now till this country seriously considers a woman for President again. Sorry ladies, your groundbreakers have become bridge burners.

I hope you don’t mind but I copied and pasted this to some of my relatives. Excellent summary!

I have read enough about Guardisil and I am satisfied the issue is history with me. It’s dead.
Perry, just a bit off on his defense, should just say, hey, the opt out was big enough to drive a truck through. I attempted to enable those inclined to take advantage of the drug.
Bachmann is going to have to forget she ever mentioned it.
Her rant was embarrasing.
If she just went after immigration and tuition… there is a conversation there to be had.
I do think Perry needs to firm up on the border issue as we have illegals from all over the world using that avenue as an entrance point, including those from the Mid-East, a point not wasted on me.
Think…dirty bomb. Possible worst-case.
No, Michele…you are kicking a dead horse and people are starting to laugh.
Cain and Newt seemed to set the best examples.
I don’t think either went on the attack. Did they?
Anyhow… Michele was foaming at the mouth.

as she didn’t manage to hit anything of value on her way down.

Mew

I couldn’t agree more Streiff…..

Ms. Bachmann was a consideration before last nights debate……now she is an “also-ran” in my book, along with Rick Santorum. They both turned ugly nasty and reminded me of the way liberals mislead people and get angry instead of simply discussing the facts.

One of our heroes once commented on how to treat fellow Republicans and I think he was rolling over in his grave last night. This is not the way I want my candidate to act regardless of whom they are debating. Perry admitted he could have handled it better and it should have been left at that…..to suggest that Perry took this action for a $5,000 donation is absurd and Bachmann knows that was a lie when she insinuated it out of desperation.

I think most honest, informed people realize that Perry took this action in an effort to save young women and for Bachmann and Santorum to attempt to turn this into a campaign issue is disgraceful. They should both leave the stage at this point and let us get on with the real race as they are no longer players in this election.

Perry should have simply looked at both of them and said “shame on you both….”.

I like Bachmann, but she lost serious points with me last night. Her accusation was way off base. Perry would never pass an executive order over $5,000, its absurd. That is a small contribution that is made by all companies. He never followed through and has called it a mistake to not go through the legislature. Offering the vaccine is the very proper role of the state to most people, it allowed for parental choice despite what Bachmann said. She wanted an opt in over his opt out. Is that really such a controversy? No amount of slamming Perry is going to help her win, just put Romney in instead and we would all be much worse off for that nomination. She should stop her campaign, back Perry and stop the bleeding from her own image. We need to pull together against Romney and Obama, so real changes can be made in America.

I couldn’t support a candidate who handed out condoms to twelve-year old girls unless their parents took the time to sift through all of the junk mail they get from the school on the first day and say, “Hey, we should probably opt out of this.”

Therefore, I can’t support a Republican who takes money from Merck and then hands Merck the ability to undermine abstinence education that the girls parents may be trying to teach her.

You don’t give a teenager the keys to the Ferrari and then say, “Don’t drive it.” You teach the teenager that she has to be ready for the Ferrari first before she can have the keys.

Kinda like Michelle Bachmann, Presidential nominee contender.

…a good debate and a good vetting of the candidates it seems like some have embarked on a search and destroy mission. Will we so damage our own candidates that Obama will win by default? Seems like we’re headed that direction. This Gardasil issue has gotten way out of hand.

She is not smart. First Lexington and Concord in New Hampshire. Then Waterloo, Iowa is the home of John Wayne Gacey, not John Wayne. Then wishing Elvis a happy birthday on the anniversary of his death. Then at the debate last night saying Mass had no constitutional right to do Romneycare, hey Michele ever heard of the 10th Amendment? And you call yourself a Tea Partier?? Then the false, over the top, shark jumping attack against Gov. Perry?

I also never understood the problem with the Newsweek cover. That is how she looks!!! Anybody ever watch her stare into a C-SPAN camera?

Why does anyone take this woman seriously??

I have learned the lesson with both McCain and Obama. No executive experience — no vote from me. This election is way too important. Conservatives should run for the hills away from this woman. And Sara Palin should be ashamed of herself also for her ridiculous charge last night.

Rush, Hannity and all her enabelers on cable television should ask her how she is going to not cut any entitlement spending, not raise any taxes, not cut defense and not raise the debt ceiling. And “I am going to eliminate Obamacare” is not an answer to that question. If I hear her say again that she didn’t vote for something like the resolution congratulating the SF Giants on winning the World Series resolution because it didn’t eliminate Obamacare I am going to barf. She is such a one trick pony it is ridiculous. Get her off the stage!!! My wife can’t even listen to her without throwing the remote control through the TV.

I liked Bachmann. But she lost my support. I have
Unsubscribed to her email list. I have researched
This whole issue. Yes, Perry made a mistake.
He seems to have learned from this one.
I would much rather have a President who
has learned from past experience and then be
mature enough to admit when he was wrong.
I could never see a loose canon like Bachmann
in any administration at any level.
All the women that have piled on Perry are either
in the tank for Romney or have a secret love of Obama.
So it boils down to this. Who do want to guide America
from 2012 to 2016? Perry, Obama or Romney?

The only site I was able to find showed her small donor numbers, her top donor numbers, the corporate donation numbers etc. Just totals for each. When you look at the sections from the FEC site, the top 5 donors, the top 5 corporations etc. are all blank. Do they not have to report that info. now?

Bachmann’s take on the Gardasil issue is more complex than many here are acknowledging. She raises legitimate concerns over who ultimately gets to make healthcare decisions. Conservatives should agree that it is the individual, not some politician.

Sure, after many decades of widespread use we can feel pretty good about the safety of most childhood vaccines, but that doesn’t mean that every vaccine that comes down the pike should be mandated. Flu vaccines aren’t mandated even though it kills far more people than those who might someday get cancer from HPV. We should be concerned about what factors are guiding decisions about the safety and efficacy of medications, treatments, etc., especially in regard to mandates for their use. There’s nothing crazy about that.

I intend to watch all the candidates right up to the day of the primary election, which is still months away. If there’s one thing I’ve learned: every politician eventually disappoints – it’s just a matter of when and on what scale. The fact that Perry’s first instinct was to use an executive order in this case is a legitimate issue. Bachmann’s belief that taking Gardasil should be an individual choice is also fair game. Big government, state-run healthcare, illegal immigration and global warming fanatics concern me more. Those calling for some to drop out of the race or shut up mystify me. This is what the run-up to the primary is all about, folks. Sheesh.

I’ll give you the benefit of the doubt that you misread my comment.

Well there’s a big surprise. Which front pager at Redstate hasn’t been?

This vaccine thing may be a good discussion to have after the country has been saved from the Socialists and returned to the people. What was she thinking?
Romney also tried to pick an argument. So sad.not
Candidate, tell me why YOU are the best candidate, I’m interested in hearing you tear down your opponents to advance yourself.
Particularly if a vaccine issue or a 5k donation is the best ammo you have. Really now.
Sean gave her pretty much a free pass on his show today, of course, he also helped get Lieberman re-elected,,,,
Bachman slid right off my short list. I’m glad she showed her pettiness early on. I had such high hopes for her. Oh, well.

Regards

Bachman slid right off my short list. I’m glad she showed her pettiness early on. I had such high hopes for her. Oh, well.

Regards

but at least she is going down fighting, which I respect. Perry hit her with a strange surprise (He’s offended? Where did he get that? From the liberal victim pool?) yet Bachmann hit him back forcefully enough (admittedly, with the first thing she found at hand to grab) that he lost his footing for the duration of the issue. If he hadn’t been able to catch his breath while Santorum was subsequently speaking, Perry might have looked worse than “not so great” on this. I agree that his concluding words should have been, simply, “I’ve said that I’d do it differently now. There’s nothing more to say.” I don’t think he expected to be hit back with any effectiveness, and I doubt any of the others could have made him lose his crisp control.

Michele Bachmann has a good future, although I can’t guess in what capacity her considerable talents will be most useful in the years ahead. Putting this vaccine issue aside, she seems to understand the public better than most elected officials, which is why she gives the impression she will not only repeal ObamaCare, but gore it, gut it, stomp on it, incinerate it, and send the ashes into a black hole in outermost space. This is what the majority of the public wants done, figuratively speaking. Rush was talking today about the need to focus on Obamacare, and so far, Bachmann is the only one doing it.

Incidentally, Rush also said, and I agree, that Republicans should probably put Social Security on a back burner as a matter of prioritizing. Someone at RS asked the other day, “Where do you start on reforming entitlements, particularly SS and Medicare, which are very different.” Well, not only is Medicare going broke faster, but it is a natural place to start because of the need to repeal Obamacare and replace it with market-based reform. The fact that Medicare is driving the skyrocketing of healthcare costs is beyond dispute, and to paraphrase Paul Ryan, market-based reform will lower costs by giving seniors “the power to deny business to inefficient providers” rather than by rationing, as Obamacare will do. Healthcare experts have been recommending market-based reform for 30 years now, including Bill Clinton’s advisers, and Obama’s unprecedented level of profligate spending is forcing us to finally face the problem. Paul Ryan is a good pace setter on these issues.

Anyway, piling on Bachmann the way some are doing here today is, at best, uncalled for, and at worst, despicable.

Go back and review the attack. She ignores the opt-out provision despite the fact that it was referenced less than a minute before she spoke. She ignores why it was an opt-out as opposed to an opt-in. She ignores the fact that NO child was vaccinated under the EO. She misrepresents the actual facts to make an emotional argument about parental rights.

You could say that she lied, but that would require that we prove her intent. Even if that case is hard to make we can say with assurance that she attempted to smear Perry.

Not presidential. Not qualified. Dishonorable. Go back to the congress where you add value and learn about dignity and honor and maybe in a decade or two come back and try again.

Individualism is the center of conservatism…..

http://www.redstate.com/1strichard/2011/07/25/the-political-spectrum-the-center-of-conservatism-why-it-matters/

….and how this foundation fits your beliefs is your choice but if you do not have this as your foundation, you are less a conservative. Therefore as leader, a conservative leader it is of up most importance to convince others of their individual responsibility. Michele Bachmann I think missed making this point assertively and Rick Perry has concerns.

Next….

And an important message for Michelle Malkin.

For Immediate Release: September 13, 2011

AMERICAN ACADEMY OF PEDIATRICS STATEMENT ON HPV VACCINE

By: O Marion Burton, MD, FAAP, president, American Academy of Pediatrics

“The American Academy of Pediatrics would like to correct false statements made in the Republican presidential campaign that HPV vaccine is dangerous and can cause mental retardation. There is absolutely no scientific validity to this statement. Since the vaccine has been introduced, more than 35 million doses have been administered, and it has an excellent safety record.

“The American Academy of Pediatrics, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, and the American Academy of Family Physicians all recommend that girls receive HPV vaccine around age 11 or 12. That’s because this is the age at which the vaccine produces the best immune response in the body, and because it’s important to protect girls well before the onset of sexual activity. In the U.S., about 6 million people, including teens, become infected with HPV each year, and 4,000 women die from cervical cancer. This is a life-saving vaccine that can protect girls from cervical cancer.”

that I really haven’t heard mentioned as of yet. When it comes to medical illnesses such as Diptheria, Polio, Measles, Mumps, etc., progression of the illness is usually rather rapid and the symptoms are plain to see. With other illnesses such as Hepatitis or HPV, that isn’t necessarily the case. In these illnesses, early detection can make a huge amount of difference.

Already in our generation, we’re seeing a shortage of primary care physicians. These are the doctors who would be most likely to identify such illnesses early. If trends continue as they have, there will be even greater shortages of primary care doctors in the next generation.

Vaccinations aren’t a cure all, but they do serve an important purpose in this context. It is awkward all the same, because I do believe in freedom of choice. I wouldn’t want to see government going overboard with executive fiats mandating a bunch of unnecessary vaccinations solely for the purpose of nanny-state intervention. But I can see how risks to the general public play into the situation, particularly in light of projected shortages of doctors in the years to come.