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Washington Post Story On Romney Begins To Unravel

Dispatches from the Meme Wars.

So this morning the Washington Post runs a story detailing what kind of a jerk Mitt Romney was in high school. This is a surprise, right? A high school kid being a jerk. This has never ever happened before. Why, you might well ask, would the Washington Post devote valuable time and space to writing about this event? And why, you might well follow up, is this worth posting about when everyone should be talking about the environment?

The answer is easy. It builds a meme and it translates Obama’s endorsement of gay marriage from a liability into a perceived strength.

If you missed this is the graf that has the left exercised:

BLOOMFIELD HILLS, Mich. — Mitt Romney returned from a three-week spring break in 1965 to resume his studies as a high school senior at the prestigious Cranbrook School. Back on the handsome campus, studded with Tudor brick buildings and manicured fields, he spotted something he thought did not belong at a school where the boys wore ties and carried briefcases. John Lauber, a soft-spoken new student one year behind Romney, was perpetually teased for his nonconformity and presumed homosexuality. Now he was walking around the all-boys school with bleached-blond hair that draped over one eye, and Romney wasn’t having it.

“He can’t look like that. That’s wrong. Just look at him!” an incensed Romney told Matthew Friedemann, his close friend in the Stevens Hall dorm, according to Friedemann’s recollection. Mitt, the teenaged son of Michigan Gov. George Romney, kept complaining about Lauber’s look, Friedemann recalled.

A few days later, Friedemann entered Stevens Hall off the school’s collegiate quad to find Romney marching out of his own room ahead of a prep school posse shouting about their plan to cut Lauber’s hair. Friedemann followed them to a nearby room where they came upon Lauber, tackled him and pinned him to the ground. As Lauber, his eyes filling with tears, screamed for help, Romney repeatedly clipped his hair with a pair of scissors.

Of course the story gets much sadder with Romney presumably responsible for the guy’s failed life and death from cancer.

He came out as gay to his family and close friends and led a vagabond life, taking dressage lessons in England and touring with the Royal Lipizzaner Stallion riders. After an extreme fit of temper in front of his mother and sister at home in South Bend, he checked into the Menninger Clinic psychiatric hospital in Topeka, Kan. Later he received his embalmer’s license, worked as a chef aboard big freighters and fishing trawlers, and cooked for civilian contractors during the war in Bosnia and then, a decade later, in Iraq. His hair thinned as he aged, and in the winter of 2004 he returned to Seattle, the closest thing he had to a base. He died there of liver cancer that December.

He kept his hair blond until he died, said his sister Chris. “He never stopped bleaching it.”

There are unanswered questions here, like what this has to do with anything, how a high school dropout bummed around Europe taking dressage lessons and, my favorite, how getting an “embalmer’s license” led to a culinary career? But the Post doesn’t address them.

The main source for this vignette is a former classmate of Romney’s named Stu White. According to the Washington Post:

“I always enjoyed his pranks,” said Stu White, a popular friend of Romney’s who went on to a career as a public school teacher and has long been bothered by the Lauber incident.”

But ABC News reports

“White was not present for the prank, in which Romney is said to have forcefully cut a student’s long hair and was not aware of it until this year when he was contacted by the Washington Post.”

From this it is pretty clear that the Lauber incident did not unfold in the way the Washington Post describes, if, indeed, it happened at all. (h/t to the Daily Caller)

Why this and why now?

As we’ve mentioned before this is all part of a process to brand Romney as a vicious, thoughtless, out-of-touch rich guy. It is really Obama’s only hope as he can’t possibly win if he runs on his objective accomplishments.

This story has obviously been in the works for a while but the news value of it is questionable. It is the basic oppo dump material that the Washington Post obediently churns out on Republicans. As Major Garrett reports in National Journal, the whole Biden-evolving postion idea was a scam to allow Obama to support gay marriage:

Did Obama sacrifice huge swaths of swing voters? Probably not. The polls have shifted to net favorable on the question of same-sex marriage and independents are unlikely to punish Obama for a policy position consistent with everything else he’s done on gay issues. Social conservatives will, of course, be aggrieved. But they were already.

Also, consider this on the gay-marriage pronouncements: Biden was first, Obama second. That the two happily reversed the common order of things ought to tell you something about their relationship (solid), their understanding of tactics (advanced), and how they can play Washington’s chattering class for fools (easily).

But suddenly, the nothingburger story developed by the Post had a hook. In fact it had a hook that could effectively frame the entire story to fit into the overarching Obama campaign. Obama was against gay marriage, but then he met parents of friends of his daughters who were gay and the subject was discussed at family dinners and he changed his mind. <sarcasm> Another “gutsy call” in which he took an unpopular position after carefully weighing everything, and, of course, consulting his deeply held Christian faith. </sarcasm>

Romney, on the other hand, when he went to an elite private school for elite rich kids relentlessly bullied a kid who was gay and continues his bullying and homophobia to this day by not supporting homosexual marriage. It all fit. And the Post was able to make good on its investment.

The ABC story makes it clear that there are other Romney classmates lining up to dish on him, presumably after they sign with a literary agent:

One former classmate and old friend of Romney’s – who refused to be identified by name – said there are “a lot of guys” who went to Cranbrook who have “really negative memories” of Romney’s behavior in the dorms, behavior this classmate describes as “evil” and “like Lord of the Flies.”

The classmate believes Romney is lying when he claims to not remember it.

“It makes these fellows [who have owned up to it] very remorseful.  For [Romney] not to remember it? It doesn’t ring true.  How could the fellow with the scissors forget it?” the former classmate said.

 

 

 

 

COMMENTS

  • goodgovernance

    Kids of privilege often are. The point is what kind of man did he grow up to be, and by all accounts he appears to have outgrown childhood mistakes.

    I hope these stories about Romney aren’t true, but the reason they’re coming out now has everything to do with fundraising amongst the base. The issue isn’t going to sway independents much, but Obama needs his base energized and I bet he succeeds.

    Long race ahead.

    • blakemoney

      People in those days weren’t so tuned into the whole “bullying” thing the way we are today. At elite schools, it was a Darwinian world where the strong survived and prospered, and people just accepted hazing, especially toward those suspected of homosexuality, as the way things were. Sort of like the way it was accepted in the 50s to exclude blacks from schools and restaurants, and force them, by law, to sit in the back of the bus. Sure, it wasn’t the right thing to do. But Mitt Romney wasn’t breaking any laws by giving a homosexual a haircut in a school prank.

      • naraht

        in Michigan in the 1960s.
        Most places at least today have a broad enough definition of Assault to include that.

      • funwithknives

        Man, it was everywhere. if you did not’ fit in’ {jocks, greasers, anyone but ‘ the love crowd’} you caught some, no doubt about it.
        Especially if you stood out in any way the educators saw. { special attributes, lionizing in class, after-school activities,etc.}

        By Junior year I had a car, a job and got out every day as fast as
        I could. More than slightly girthy, Rapid reading rates and comprehension {aka: Mr. Know-It-All} and,thus : why would I like it or want to participate?
        Was it fun? Oh, hell no. But did I learn? One Large Yowza….

      • cactusbob

        Romney blew it when he failed to remark that at least he hasn’t paid millions of dollars to seal his school records like Obama did.

        • karlmichael

          Couple of nights ago I watched a spy thriller in black and white. The key statement made at the beginning of the movie was this: “Tolerance will eventually lead to stupidity”. That was 1939. Apparently the saying is true for today. Many Americans are still stupid enough to believe that tolerance will achieve greatness. Oh really? Why then do we continue to suffer from the rampage of sexually transmitted diseases that have infected millions of Americans who are too tolerant not to get tested, and too tolerant to stop their adultery and fornication? Why are millions of children ending up missing, sexually abused, and murdered? All for tolerating rampant pornography? How about the marriage/divorce rates which affect millions of families with broken homes, murdered girlfriends and ex-spouses? Tolerance for irreconcilable differences? And last but not least, the barrage of lies, slurs, and blasphemies hurled non-stop at those who have grown up to be good solid citizens of our country, while tolerating Supreme Court justices and presidents whose every intention is to promote these acts of social terrorism, destroying the very good of the America I once knew?
          Tolerance is an word filled with evil intent and consequence.
          As a nation we can no longer tolerate evil, because if we do not confront it, it will imprison us into unrestricted bondage.
          Peter, Paul, and Mary’s words, “When we ever learn” is the question we should answer when it comes to reading newprint that is patently intolerable.

          • blakemoney

            Who knows what this young homosexual might have gone on to do had he not been straightened out that day at Cranbrook? Kudos, perhaps, to Romney, if he did see something not “normal” in this kid and solved a problem the way problems have been solved for centuries before the PC crowd took over. I’m actually against bullying in general, but in the big picture, who’s to say that without it, this nation wouldn’t be even more evil?

    • http://patriotpowerplay.blogspot.com/ mirac777

      and it appears that Goodgoverance bought it hook line and sinker. So what if a kid was teasing another kid 50 years ago?

      The oddball died of “liver cancer.” Sounds like he was a lifelong alcoholic and/ or a doper there to me. Kind of funny how we can be discussing a “candidates” childhood, while the childhood of the most powerful man in the country and world is hidden away due to his being raised outside of America. Can’t have Americans knowing how they were duped into voting for a foreign tyrant with anti-American views by telling the truth about the man, can we?

      These fluffers posing as “journalists” need to get a frigging life expecting anyone with half a brain to believe what they write today.

      • goodgovernance

        Obama’s an American. Just because you don’t like him doesn’t mean we can make up stuff about him. “The Dems made me do it!” didn’t work when you were a kid, and it’s not going to work now.

        • streiff

          read it again

          • goodgovernance

            “Can?t have Americans knowing how they were duped into voting for a foreign tyrant with anti-American views”

            You could call Obama a domestic tyrant and be comfortably in the realm of expressing your opinion, but when you call him a foreign one that’s different.

            Of course, you may disagree. And yes, I’m aware you’re a moderator.

    • horizonscanner

      As in the case of the Hockey Stick Graph fabricated by Dr. Michael Mann of Penn State to “prove” that American industry and humanity creates man-made global warming, so to with this “proof” that Mitt Romney is a bully, monster, and homophobe. Both stories are op.
      But, because a public figure, especially one in politics, has no legal recourse, the Darkness at Noon operation can proceed without opposition.

      Bye-A-Lick of 500 Lake Shore Drive worked with David Trotsky Axelrod on the Cain Attack-Lie Canard. Axelrod lives there, too.

      In the Cloward-Piven Strategy, American mores are under total assault. Mass media, executive orders, treaties, TSA shakedowns, overload the system, the American people and those who represent the rule of Constitutional law with fusillades of tyrannical actions.

      Fluck works for Dunn who worked inside the White House until she was exposed as a Maoist.

      Where’s the Martin story? Where’s Sharpton?

      It’s just one damn thing after another on our way to the Inconceivable Heaven of Nancy Pelosi.

      George Stephanapoulos is a fifth column Quisling, as is Charlie Rose. “The ship of World Guv has already embarked.”

      We are at WAR, we are in a full force coup d’etat, a transmigration of the French Revolution.

      And over it all, the Soaring One is gleefully intertwining his hands like a black fly seeing his minions succeed.

      The Ends Justify The Means. Gotta break eggs to make an omelet.

      • goodgovernance

        If your goal was to get quoted over at Daily Kos or maybe get excerpted on an MSNBC show as an example of how all right wingers are foaming at the mouth, you’re on your way.

        If the goal is to get independents to vote against Obama, you have failed, and failed mightily.

        Anger and vitriol doesn’t win independents. Heck, it didn’t even work in the primaries against Romney.

        And being a bully is something anybody should be ashamed of, though I think a man or woman can become a different and better person than they were as a child (we all raise our children with that expectation, anyway), and there are reasons we don’t condemn usually condemn adults for things they did in childhood.

        But anyone who’s proud of their old childhood bullying days never really grew out of it, and never really matured (not that I think Mitt Romney hasn’t matured, or is anything like a bully as an adult).

        • deuke

          I don’t disagree with your observations, but I was wondering exactly what you meant about “right-wingers foaming at the mouth…”

          Would I be a “right-winger” and foaming at the mouth if I was to say that homosexuality is an abomination to GOD? Would it be foaming at the mouth to say that those who grew up in the 50s and 60s saw homosexuality as abnormal, some even saw it as a very big sin and still do.

          But all of that isn’t the point is it? It is as you said, “… being a bully is something anybody should be ashamed of, though I think a man or woman can become a different and better person than they were as a child (we all raise our children with that expectation, anyway)…”

          The WA Post story is pointing out an alleged character flaw in Mitt Romney. It doesn’t matter what can be dug up on Obama that is just as shaming, or that the stories are not balanced, or being made up to fit Obama’s agenda. The only point of the story, if true, shames Romney.

          I haven’t heard his answer to this allegation, except what was allegedly said by an unnamed classmate, that he “forgot it,” but it seems to me that the only thing Romney can say, if the story is true, is, ‘I was a jerk. I was wrong, and I deeply regret my actions.” Honesty is the only way out of the shame here.

          We can try and justify all we want, our actions back in those days, but there are certain beliefs that we have carried, such as, homosexuality is an abomination to GOD, that should still be carried, and our answer to Obama is simple in this regard; you support a sin, we do not.

          I agree with karlmichael above, tolerance has been our downfall.

    • horizonscanner

      There’s no way the Wash Post stories are true.

      The evidence is found in all the other canards the RadLibs are running: Trayvon, Arpaio, Dr. Mann, Keystone, ZeroKing’s “Christian Faith” — Aye, there’s a good one:

      Zeke said that his Christian faith compelled him to stand against “Marriage” for gays. He is seen on YouTube stating this several years ago. Now, what did he state yesterday to the acclaim of RadLib media?

      Where is Larry Sinclair now that we need him?

  • Tbone

    http://www.punahou.edu/page.cfm?p=1

    This is where Obama used to abuse his female classmates with shoving, pushing and Marxist rhetoric.

  • http://impudent.edublogs.org/ kyle8

    He had enough gumption to organize his fellow students and do something about a situation that he thought was unwholesome.

    That shows courage and leadership skills.

    • BlueLandRed

      Look, I get that it was the 60′s things were different back then.

      And he was a kid.

      And it probably all lies.

      But if you assume, like you just did, that it wasn’t lies.

      Then no… there is nothing in that attack to be proud of. Nothing that shows courage and real leadership skills. It’s just bullying, plain and simple and that is and always will be wrong.

      • http://impudent.edublogs.org/ kyle8

        It reads like a giant tissue of lies so I am giving it the dignity it deserves.

        • blakemoney

          I’m beginning to think it’s all lies now, too. Romney apologized, but he doesn’t remember the incident. How is it possible to not remember something like holding a homosexual down on the ground, and while he’s crying, you pull out a pair of sissors and cut his hair off?

          I think anyone in America would remember if they did something like that as an 18 year old. I know he apologized, but I call BS. Mitt Romney is a Mormon. I’ve never met a Mormon who was comfortable lying. I’d start looking at all the other students at this school who admitted holding this homosexual down while Romney cut his hair. I hope Breitbart and Drudge investigate the living hell out of these guys and find out why they are trying to drag Romney down with their false accusations. Mitt jumped the guy with his apologies. We just may find out they made the whole thing up.

          • The_Gadfly

            for him to be uncomfortable with lies. It seems to come with political territory these days. Because of that, I don’t fault him for it (probably ought to, but I don’t).

            But here’s what I think happened. The story broke. Romney knows it isn’t true, but instead of just coming out and saying so, he meets with his strategy team about how best to deal with the issue. The strategy team decides a straight up denial of the incident will give the story legs because the next day they can run the story again under the headline “Romney Denies Attack on Homosexual.” After that they get to go ‘find’ another witness and run a story with the headline “Another Witness Confirms Attack on Homosexual Despite Romney Denial.”

            Instead they go for the response of apologizing while having Romney say he didn’t remember it. The thinking being that so long as he apologizes and doesn’t deny it, they can’t keep it in the headlines. In some instances it’s a strategy that defuses the situation, especially for events deep in the past.

            Of course what they missed is the opportunity to turn it around. If it didn’t really happen, or if much of the story is embellished or pure BS, Romney could have worked it to show how the media are consistently anti-Republican and working for the election of The Big 0. For all his faults, Newt Gingrich would have done this and done it successfully. Santorum would have done the same. I point defeated candidates out not to pine for their return, but because I think it shows neither Romney nor his strategy team have learned anything valuable from the primaries about how to campaign to win the 2012 election. They keep expecting to be able to buy it from The Big 0 and forget that their negative campaigning against the primary candidates was reinforced by the media instead of being opposed by it. For the presidential race proper, the media are pretty much always going to be opposing Romney’s positions.

          • blakemoney

            The whole thing just confuses me. Like Bill Clinton paying off Paula Jones, only to make the charges go away, even though he claimed he didn’t do what she said he did. I wish more politicians had guts to fight when they believe they are in the right. On the other hand, it’s probably fair to say that they are lying. Mitt Romney claims he’s learned a lot from the mistakes he made as a youth. But if he doesn’t remember pinning a homosexual down and chopping off his hair, how could he learn from it? Something doesn’t make sense. Unless he knows he did a horrible thing and doesn’t want to talk about it specifically, and he just issues a blank apology. Maybe that’s where you’re right…he’s not uncomfortable lying and changing positions. Who knows?

            One thing is for certain. He’s coming off less like a robot these days! If any of these dog and haircut stories are really true and Mitt’s not denying them, you’re starting to get a pretty good picture of who the man is. He’s not the kind of man I’d want to spend any time with, but he’s probably exactly what this country needs right now. Arrogant? Sure. But what’s wrong with a little American arrogance?

          • The_Gadfly

            If I understand correctly, Romney was a military prep school kid. The long hair probably offended him. He and his buddies therefore gave the hippie a proper hair cut. They had no clue about his “rumored homosexuality.” And now he does regret it.

            But trying to make that case with an LSM intent on making it all about the guys sexual attractions is an impossible political haul. So he went with the story he did. Close enough to the truth that it isn’t an “I did not have sex with THAT woman” lie, but still not the truth. And close enough that I, and probably most other voters, won’t fault him for it.

      • http://patriotpowerplay.blogspot.com/ mirac777

        with the overblown “bullying” B/S. People afraid to confront issues head on is how we got into this dysfunctional financial/morally bankrupt mess of a country we live in today. Pols too afraid to make a stand against debt-spending, Americans afraid to speak out against the gay perversion of our children in schools, afraid to stand up for family values and our religious foundation, on and on with the cowardly PC way of life where everyone is some kind of a victim.

        Someone sure hit the nail on the head when they asked, “is America becoming a nation of cowards today?” IMO A man mounting a man from behind is a disgusting perversion of the word love and a filthy disgrace to society. Clear enough PC puppets? People promoting this supposed “lifestyle” are just as pathetic as the minorities using skin color for the exact same reason: to play the victim card. Homosexuals are a victim alright, a victim of their own perversions and poor choices in life.

        • deuke

          …post when I wrote the above, concerning goodgovernance’s post. Just wanted to say, “My sentiments exactly.” You know of course we will now be considered one of those, “foaming at the mouth, homophobic right-wingers.”
          Glad to know I’m in good company.

          For me, what you said about meeting things head-on, is exactly what Romney must embrace, if he wants to bolster his reach for the WH. Independents want someone strong enough to stand for what they believe in and not falter. Politically correct doesn’t work – we have too much information to be buffaloed any longer. Romney should take to heart what you said. All of us should!

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  • dlg1956

    As I heard about this ‘story’ it makes me wonder why did Mittens not ask the reporter flat out ‘ your going back to my HS days to come up with a BS story yet you refuse to even look into Obama’s shady past?’ Whe you ask Obama about his college records, transcripts, HS records and transcripts, travel records, draft records, passport records, then we can have a talk about my HS past..

    Mittens just doesn’t have the guts to confront these biased reporters and throw it in their faces…

    • Darin_H

      Romney needs to keep focusing on the economy and beating the snot out of Baracky on that front. It’s up to the rest of us to fight the meme wars. Romney also didn’t take the bait of going after Obama on his flip-flop-flip on SSM.

      “It’s the economy, and I’m not stupid” – Mitt Romney

    • renl57

      …but Independent voters might take that as a sign that Romney is getting upset and may have something to hide.

      Look at the way Elizabeth Warren has bristled at the questions she’s gotten from reporters over her days at Harvard Law School. Her anger over being questioned like that has NOT helped her with the public. Only her loyal supporters are buying that.

      • renl57

        “After all the character assassination and oppo research and mudslinging, some facts remain:
        “We’ve still got millions of unemployed Americans, an economy that is still stumbling, and the prospect of a ‘Lost Decade’ or even longer.
        “And no matter how much Obama tries to change the subject away from those unpleasant truths, I will deal with whatever mud he wants to throw–and then I’ll go back to talking about the current and future state of the American economy.
        “Every time Obama tries to wriggle off that hook, I’m going to put him right back onto it.”

        • The_Gadfly

          “And no matter how much Obama and the [Washington Post/New York Times/LA Times as appropriate] try to change the subject…”

          It is important to keep reminding voters that the LSM is actively assisting The Big 0, that you know it, and you know that voters know it.

          And maybe at the end

          “…I’m going to put him right back onto it because in 3 years he’s done nothing about it.”

        • http://patriotpowerplay.blogspot.com/ mirac777

          The Panderer in Chief will keep on trying to distract the sheep from looking at his failure of a record, his dividing of this country with his class warfare, and his radical appointees who are marching on his orders to force anti-American, anti- propserity policies onto the people.

          SOLYNDRA, Fast and Furious, Black Panthers, hidden college records that would expose his anti-American ideology and worship of Marxism. the trashing of Christianity while pandering to Muslims, the racist church he sat in for 20 years, the black power marches he participated in, the 5 trillion dollars of debt for a stagnant economy where billions were stolen through the stimulus, the blocking of our domestic energy production denying millions of jobs, the corruption of the EEOC resulting in companies being unable to run criminal background checks on future employees, the massive theft of health care dollars through Obama-care, on and on. The FACTS say that Obama will be squashed like a bug come Novermber, DOJ approved vote fraud or not.

        • deuke

          Sir. I appreciate the strategy, but does this mean you will not answer the allegations? Deflection works only for awhile, as you have pointed out is Obama’s game. I know that you cannot waste valuable time answering every possible bogus claim made out there, but one this significant, as it points to a character flaw that may have been carried into adulthood, i.e., bullying, there must be an answer. Apologizing for something you don’t remember is disengenuous.

    • streiff

      that kind of a response reeks of desperation. What the press did or didn’t do with Obama is immaterial.

  • Locked and Loaded

    and got the royal tour of the place when my ex father-in-law worked there. Definitely a place of privilege. Not too many of their grads go on to careers in public education, I’m sure. I wonder what the other no-name losers went on to do before they found out they could defame Romney.

  • clintonformccain

    if this is the best dirt Axelrod can dig up after spending million on oppo research, Mittens really must be squeaky clean and pure as the driven snow. A high school prank? That’s it?

    • BlueLandRed

      I’m not a huge far of Axelrod…but I do give him some credit. I suspect he is saving he’s best (and most slanderous) stuff for the point in the campaign where Romney doesn’t have time to refute it.

      • clintonformccain

        I’d don’t know. Right now is when the Dems should be throwing everything they’ve got at Romney in an attempt to define him in a way that disqualifies him in the minds of the voters. So far, they’ve splattered him with pretty thin gruel.

        I just don’t think there’s any “there” there. I think the guy really is squeaky clean, unless you think that making a lot of money is somehow a “bad” thing.

  • jimgb

    Yet again the mainstream media demonstrates their total corruption and the contempt in which they hold the public. So what if Romney was a jerk in high school? All of us did things in our adolescence that we are not proud of and would not want the rest of our lies to be judged against. But in the eyes of the media his stupid pranks are more important than getting to the bottom of who our current president is (or is not) and all the mysteries about his past. In my own small way I registered my disgust with the WaPo farce by donating to Romney’s campaign, a first for me.

    • BlueLandRed

      I point out that we’ve made pretty big deal about Obama’s high school record… or the lack of it.

      Hell, apparently Obama ate some dog… or something… way back when.

      The sad part, the ugly part of this campaign hasn’t even begun.

      • http://patriotpowerplay.blogspot.com/ mirac777

        Romneys “American” high school record. Obama doesn’t have one period.

    • SoFiMil

      and Romney is lying that he doesn’t remember it/didn’t do it, that’s a lie. While we all do stupid things, this was no prank if the alleged event occurred. Appolgizes and forthrightness is essential.

      Assuming Romney didn’t do this, he should say, “But if had done this, this was a horrible thing to do. No one should ever be treated this way. And for someone to have done this and then lie about it when someone is my age, I deserve zero respect.”

      It’s also a serious serious matter if this is all a bunch of lies by the individuals cited in the story.

    • SoFiMil

      And you and Congressman Clyburn heard Tea Partiers yell the N-word. Not buying your attempt to discredit conservatives with your first time post.

      The allegation is a serious charge. If true, it is a cruel way to treat someone. No excuses.

      • PowerToThePeople

        and relearn the definition of a troll.

        I am stumped to see what you see that would deserve your little rant or your troll announcement. Seems to me he is clearly defending our nominee and so I am going to assume you directed this at someone else even though it seems he/she is the only one with just one post.

        Cool your jets, untwist your underwear, it really is all OK.

        • SoFiMil

          I don’t care who our nominee is. This doesn’t mean I won’t still vote for Romney. But don’t justify such alleged behavior just because he’s the Republican nominee.

          • SoFiMil

            And yes, my rant was also directed to you.

          • commonsenseobserver

            How the story develops first. Don’t jump to conclusions. And don’t be like Bill Shorten either. :P

          • SoFiMil

            :)
            I’m definitely taking a wait-and-srr approach to this, with a core ethical foundation to guide me.

          • commonsenseobserver

            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GFELLK8htKM

            The stupidity our friends in Australia have to deal with is amazing. :D

          • http://impudent.edublogs.org/ kyle8

            like watching a real life version of the old Yes Minister show.

          • commonsenseobserver

            One of the best. I’m still hunting for videos of that series. After watching quite a few episodes on youtube, they all seem to have disappeared.

            I found Bernard to be the funniest character, though. :P

          • SoFiMil

            And break out the popcorn.

          • SoFiMil

            to this approach is if/when this is shown to be a fabrication, our vitriole in response to such libel will carry more weight.

      • http://patriotpowerplay.blogspot.com/ mirac777

        Parroting media matters tripe( “if he is lying”) certainly puts a person in the troll category in my book. Calling what someone did 50 years ago while in school a “serious matter”, whether true or not speaks of a sever lack of critical thinking.. unless there is one self-important person in here who NEVER made a mistake while growing up in life. It is what we learn from those mistakes that shapes who we are as an adult.

        If ya can’t handle a little teasing in your life, Europe is nice this time of year. I hear France has a new president who would love to have you.

        • SoFiMil

          *I’m not saying there’s a coverup by Romney.

          • commonsenseobserver

            It’s Romney’s personal matter, so it would be awkward for Redstaters or any other conservatives to be commenting before the authenticity of this is corroborated. I actually think the campaign has taken the best approach for the time being.

          • SoFiMil

            By coverup, I’m referring to justifying lying/not remembering this – regardless of whether this happened or not.

            Let’s all enter the no spin zone.

            *For the record, I lean toward this story being a complete fabrication.

          • clintonformccain

            Ohhhhh, puhleeze…..

          • deuke

            as cut and dried as that. You can’t call Romney a liar, if you don’t have the facts or that the story isn’t corroborated. However, you can say, if the allegations are true, don’t use the excuse, ‘I don’t remember…’ because the incident would be unforgettable, unless this was a common practice of these guys.

            I can’t buy that it was forgettable, or that someone else remembers it differently. The incident is either a fabrication or it isn’t. If it is, he remembers and the only way to answer; “It is a lie.” And move on. If it is not a fabrication, the answer is, “I didn’t see clearly when I was younger; these things seemed normal back then, but I have no compunction against saying that I think the gay lifestyle is inherently wrong, but there was no excuse for bullying.” Then move on.

          • streiff

            of course people forget stuff. Especially piddly bullsh## stuff in high school 47 years ago.

          • PowerToThePeople

            half the time I can not remember yesterday much less what I did or what someone claimed I did 30, 40, or 50 years ago. It is just plane out asinine nonsense for idiots to claim otherwise.

            My marriage was a very bid deal years ago and I can not remember 95% of what happened until my wife reminds me. Even then I just act as if I remember just to keep my ass off the couch.

          • deuke

            …character shows up in many ways. When people begin to use rude name-calling as a response, it shows their flaws in intelligence and communication technique – you have shown yours in flying colors.

            No one is arguing that one can’t forget, the simple fact is this kind of incident; bullying someone and cutting off their hair because of a dispute with their lifestyle, is unforgettable, unless as I have said, it was common practice. Then the answer would be, “which one was that again.”

            For the record, I’m not disparaging Mitt Romney, it’s just that IMO, if the allegations are true, own up to it and be done with it.

            I went to HS nearly 50 years ago, and I would certainly remember that incident, if only that it was a reminder I was being a jerk. Do you remember calling others names, because you didn’t know how to answer them?

          • PowerToThePeople

            me no mean to hurt your feelings. Or did me rub raw sore spot of personal failure on your part.

            Have trouble making good sentence as have many flaws in intelligence.

            Get over yourself bub, make a stupid comment, get nailed on it. Continue making stupid comments, get called an imbecile. And you are almost to that point.

          • deuke

            Sure you can forget things – and I can say I certainly have, but one that would stand out would be something like what is alleged. If you don’t remember bullying someone, because of your belief about lifestyles, then what else have you forgotten?

          • PowerToThePeople

            You want to know what is ridiculous? Start with the first word of your post, end with the last word, and add everything in the middle.

            That answer should clear it up for you nicely. Any other questions?

          • streiff

            Romney says he doesn’t recall this.

            The source for the story says he was told about the story by the reporter.

            Downthread we see that the “victim’s” sister had never heard of the story.

            Beyond that even if it did happen there is no reason to believe Romney would remember it. Everytime I talk to friends from high school or college or the Army someone remembers an event that no one else recalls.

            So either accurse Romney of lying or shut up. I don’t know how to make this any more clear.

          • SoFiMil

            I’m disappointed in some posters’ spin. Their posts imply they believe the allegations and that Romney remembers the alleged incident, but that it’s no big deal to lie and say one doesn’t remember.

          • SoFiMil

            For the record. I didn’t post anything about what the sister said.

            Also, for the record I lean toward this whole thing is eithet a fabrication or Romney truley doesn’t remember this incident.

          • streiff

            by the whole “cover up” “owning up” line you’re taking on this. That high school boys can be brutal shouldn’t be a newsflash to anyone and that you might not remember an incident from nearly 50 years ago seems unremarkable to me.

            So I apologize for my harshness but I hardly expected that line of commentary coming from you of all people.

  • califgal

    she has no knowledge of this and that her brother would be angry at these reports:

    http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2012/05/sister-of-alleged-romney-target-has-no-knowledge-of-any-bullying-incident/

    • commonsenseobserver

      The victim, perhaps? :P

  • bach49

    It’s just politics. It’s funny to watch Republicans moaning about nasty political maneuvers. I, for one, am shocked, shocked, to learn that there is gambling in this institution.
    (Your winnings, sir…)

    • commonsenseobserver

      :D

    • http://utahyoungrepublican.blogspot.com/ utahyoungrepublican

      Your exactly right. Nothing in politics at that level happens by accident. It is all a very complex game of chess. In chess you never make a move into new territory unless you have established a defense for the piece you are advancing or, you are setting a trap or distraction in order to capture a different piece in another area of the board. Unfortunately, most of the country does not perceive this play of advance and counter advance that occurs in politics.

      In light of that analogy, this maneuver by Obama pawn bait. “Look over here what I’m doing with my pawn. No don’t watch my queen!”

      Since his announcement and during the fray of reiterations by the president I have wondered in my mind?s eye what the strategy meeting that led to this announcement must have sounded like.

      (Dreamy waves fade to white house campaign meeting)

      “We can’t keep fighting Mitt on the economy. We are going to lose that fight. We have to get the media and the electorate talking about something else – Anything else!”

      “Well, we can’t talk about health care, and the job outlook doesn’t look any better. Last week?s report really hurt us. ”

      “I don’t need to know where we’re hurting I need ideas.”

      “What about gay marriage?”

      (Muffled Laughter and Snickering)

      “No I’m serious. What if you were to come out in full support of it? I mean think about it. Who are we kidding we aren’t going to get much of the evangelical vote anyway. The Gay and Lesbian community is already an extremely active electorate. If we could get them to mobilize behind the President, turn their effort to his cause we could really boost our numbers quickly.”

      “You know you might be on to something. It’s a hot topic and the media will definitely fixate on it. The only problem I see is how to pull it off without looking like a flip flopper”

      “We can just play it off like it’s a new enlightenment, not a change of position. It needs to sound like an evolving position. Throw something human in, like …Oh I know, something about your kids friends who’s parents are a loving gay couple and how a child would never judge and so you’ve seen the light, like through innocent eyes, type of thing.”

      “I like it. Even better, we could set it up so it wasn’t even coming from you. So that it didn’t look like an announcement, but maybe in response to a question or something. You know, a Spur of the moment off the cuff type of thing.”

      “What if Biden was to bring the issue up first? If we time that with a national interview or something the interviewer is bound to ask you about Biden’s ‘gaff’, and then you can just casually describe the process of enlightenment that has made you come to realize blah blah blah.”

      “I love it. Let’s get some scripts worked up and set up the venues. This will keep Mitt on his toes. Let’s get some follow up scripts too. I want to see something attacking Romney on being outdated, or old-fashioned on ‘Equality’. And, something comparing it to the civil rights issue. I want this to be front and center. Drowned the economy debate in it. If we can keep the media on this for a while maybe we can hold out long enough to see some better jobs numbers.”

  • joydbrower

    I remember well when, in the early or mid-1960s (probably thanks to The Beatles), boys started wearing their hair just a wee bit too long – like over the ears and down the back of their neck! Well, needless to say, after a generation of short-cropped Eisenhower-era haircuts for guys, this brought gasps of horror and cries of degeneracy from everyone who still – defiantly – wore their hair short!! And you MUST remember the hullabalu over SIDEBURNS, don’t you?!? My God, those who were shocked at Elvis’ swivel hips, were just as shocked at long hair & sideburns. Old habits DEFINITELY died VERY hard in those days…

    So, when a rather flamboyant dude shows up at the buttoned-down prep school (and the dude in question must also have come from an elite family, ’cause in those days there weren’t many kids on scholarships at these schools) with longish hair DYED BLOND, fergawdssake, what’s a conventional red-blooded rich kid – Mr. Conformity – supposed to do?!? My God, the naivete and the assumption of depravity on the part of Mitt Romney as a teenage is stoopid, mendacious and totally ridiculous! Grow up, everybody, and stop shedding tears for a dead person, while berating a living person for being a cocky teenager (the first time in history, obviously…)!!

    • SoFiMil

      *If* you did something wrong, own up to it.

      • http://patriotpowerplay.blogspot.com/ mirac777

        Like the denier in chief Obama owns up to his mistakes and doesn’t blame others for his failures like….. oh, say GW Bush right?

        • SoFiMil

          you are absolutely correct about that too.

  • SoFiMil

    (Which is a very real possibility.)

    Lying about one’s knowledge of a fairly significant stupid actions is plain wrong. You lose credibility defending this stuff.

    • http://joeeder.com joedr

      Thank God my high school and college stupidity and indiscretions didn’t disqualify me from contributing to society. I was always the “perfect” boy throughout my school years

      No one is perfect! And I don’t care about youthful experience when it comes to running the USA–I want a responsible, respectable adult who deals with the serious issues in a serious way with true priority to the most important items.

      • uselogic

        Think SoFiMil is making too big a deal of this. I was “bullied” at some point in my neighborhood and elememtary thru high school by the current definition. I probably did some mild “bullying” myself. BFD. You get over it or you deal with it. And 40 years later, all of it is a vague and maybe compromised memory.

        It is and was pretty danged insignificant. I’ll take Mitt at his word and point the finger back at WaPo and its corrdinated smear attempt.

  • willhen50

    The media elite has not done anything to research Obama’ s past, and they don’t even question why Obama has sealed his records. The birth certificate that has been placed on the official white house website has been proven to be a forgery by practically every adobe expert and they try to demoralize Romney over an incident that has to be over 40 years old. Obama admitted he took cocaine and was listed as muslim, from his own book, yet Romney is bad because he was a “bully.”

  • http://patriotpowerplay.blogspot.com/ mirac777

    Romney was caught waterboarding poor little Jimmy in the kindergarten bathroom because he changed his/her name to Jimminique?

    Speaking of John Kerry and THAT fairy tale, has he put himself in for any more medals lately? You know for the combat wounds he received while touring the luxury hotels in Iraq under the guise of congressional fact-finding trips?

  • eheassler

    This story is just way too convenient to have a ring of truth to it. The main witness it turns out, did not witness the incident. How can he be a witness. The whole flimsy story is based on hearsay. My BS meter is pegging.

  • ihateliberals

    In this case Obama is the pig. What Romney needs to do is what Reagan would have done with this and that would be mostly to ignore it and talk about the economy and other things of the campaign. Stay on target and attack Obama’s record and keep him on the defensive. So far I think Romney did the right thing in the way he handled it because he has taken some of the steam out of the papers attack on him. I am glad this story is coming out now because we see for sure wha thte strategy of the Obama campaign is and tht is to stay focused on the trivial things and not the Obama record. This is why Romney needs to ignore the trivial and attack on the record. Keep the focus on teh None Record of Obama.

  • guidvce

    I’ve reached the point where I no longer care what the left brings up in regard to the opposition…and the presumed prez candidate.
    The choice is fairly clear for me. Do I want a prez who is an admitted, according to his own books, muzzie, commie, and racist? Or, a candidate who is fairly open about his past and has a proven track record in the world of business turning around lackluster companies into successes? As far as I know the latter has not been indoctrinated by terrorists(Ayers) or anti-Americans(Davis and Wright) or commies(grandparents) and his citizenship is not in question.
    Like I said, the choice is fairly clear. All the BS generated by the left is just that, they can’t use any of the policies or the record of the current prez to bolster his election chances, so BS is the way to go, the only way to go.

  • annie54

    would love to see that level of gumption from Mitt in this campaign on the issues that matter. Mitt needs to stay on track and not be distracted from the real issues that We the People are expecting him to address.

    The difference between Obum and Romney is that Obum would HIRE “it” done. . . . Chicago Style.

  • Niku

    I have to give Romney credit for doing something that I’ve always wanted to do but didn’t. I’m now over 70, but I still think about using a pair of scissors to good effect every time I see a man with a ponytail. Hopefully, I’ll be able to summon the nerve to do it before I die.

    • fishgod3

      *I`m 79 wear my hair long until it 11″ then cut it to send to “Locks of Love”.They make wigs for women who have had chemo,and radiation treatments.I am working on my third wig right now.Bring on your scissors if you think you can whip my ass enough to cut my hair before I`m ready.You should know the whole story before you overload your ass with your mouth.

  • kleerstreem

    Is this important…..as in who cares what Mitt did in High School?

    Bottom l LINE: Would this cause you to now change your vote from MiR to Obama?? If it would, then most likely you were going to vote for Obama, anyway.

    Isn’t it odd, the liberal media, now wants to vet MR, yet they gave Obama a free ride on EVERYTHING?

    All this tells me is the liberal media is very afraid Obama will loose.

    Anyone thinking crap like this is important is nothing but an uninformed idiot!

  • camurd

    never run for office?

    I know very few people from high school, college, and the Marines that have a completely clean slate. All of us have done things that we regret or wish we hadn’t done to someone or to ourselves.

    I take two things away from the rag of a paper; 1) if you want to be a GOP President you had better start planning in middle school, so you don’t have anything that will upset the PC pukes in the future and 2) if you are a liberal running for office you can do whateer you want; drugs, homosexually, smoke, curse, anything at all as long as you write in your book before running for office.

    This country is in worse shape than most realize.

    More of the Same, or Time for a Change?

  • gregorysstewart

    We need to come to grips with the time line here. Did this 47 year old hearsay occur before Obama snorted cocaine, smoked reefer and skipped most of his classes, as he admits in his first of two autobiographies? Did it happen prior to Obama sitting at communist Frank Marshall’s knee, absorbing his revolutionary musings? I know that this preceded the bombings by the Weathermen that killed a police officer, so it must have happened before Weathermen Bill Ayers and Bernadette Dohrn launched Obama’s career in their basement.

    It must have also happened several decades before Obama joined a Black Liberation Theology church run by the Caucasian hating, America hating, Reverend Jeremiah Wright.

    If my timeline is right, I cannot imagine why unverified reports by a third party, (The witness says that he was not there) about the actions of an immature teen are important if they refer to Romney but not if they refer to Obama.

    It would seem to me that the nearly trillion dollars (that’s $3000 for ever man woman and child in America) of failed stimulus would be a much more important subject to discuss.

    I believe that the five trillion (that’s $15,000 dollars for every man woman and child in America) dollars of debt that Obama has presided over should be on the tips of everybody’s tongue.

    Just so that we look at recent history, I would think that the stories that need to be written are those that dissect the damage to the American economy caused by Obama’s war on oil, coal, Gas fracking, the aviation business, hospitals, medical devices, insurance, banking and small business.

    I believe that we would be better served with articles that understand how under Obama we lost our triple A credit rating for the first time in history. These are the kinds of stories that can best inform us as to how the government is going to operate in the future.

    Anyone telling you that the story is about something that might not have even happened a half century ago is trying to cover up the failure that is happening right now.

    • uselogic

      n/t

  • retrocon87

    Newsflash: according to the Washington Post, “kids torture each other in high school.” Yeah, that’s real news right there. The REAL news is that evidently they can’t find any dirt on this guy from anything later than 1965 because he’s a squeaky-clean Mormon family man who celebrates by drinking chocolate milk and they know it. To the Washington Post: good luck, assholes… you got NOTHING!

  • charlierightview

    Whether or not Romney hazed a kid in high school and whether or not he remembers it is not important. Whether Romney’s dog rode on the roof, rode in the car, towed the car, drove the car, or ate the car doesn’t matter. Whether Obama ate a dog, ate with the dog, or got eaten by the dog doesn’t matter, although I would have personally preferred the latter.

    There are likely few males who went to high school in generations past who didn’t do something they regret, or broke some law, or got into some trouble. Don’t judge past generations of high school boys by the touchy-feely standards of today. If you were in an altercation the school and the police wouldn’t step in. They’d expect you to take care of it yourself.

    The problem today is the headlong plunge into socialism, totalitarianism, world governance, loss of American sovereignty, omnipotent federal government power, and loss of personal freedoms that Obama and his minions are taking us into. There is little else that deserves our immediate attention and action.

    Do you think we deserve full disclosure on all aspects of a candidate’s life history? All right then, let’s start with Obama and let’s start now, and let’s tell the MSM to stop sidetracking us from the true issues. I don’t want opinions from them. I want truth. I can form my own opinions if I can just get truth.

    chuckles

    • streiff

      1. Small things add up. We have two main memories of GHW Bush from the 1992 election. Neither of them have anything to do with policy. First there is the supermarket scanner story and second is him looking at his watch during the Richmond, VA debate. Bob Dole fell off a stage. What was his tax policy? The Bush DUI is what probably caused the drawn out 2000 recount. So you are wrong that these stories don’t matter. They matter a great deal.

      2. We do judge past generations by today’s standards. Ask Trent Lott about how his comments on Strom Thurmond worked out for him.. There is a whole garden industry built around discrediting any of our Founders who was also a slave owner.

      No, we don’t need to know everything about our candidates, but that isn’t the issue. The issue is once the attack is made how do you deal with it.

      If you really don’t think this is important then I have to ask why did you bother commenting on it.

    • adair

      excellent summations.

  • trimulchio

    http://johnbatchelorshow.com/jb/2012/05/high-school-confidential/

  • rexetnostrajura

    Christine Lauber, the older sister of Romney?s classmate, John Lauber, claims she has no knowledge of the bullying incident involving her brother, who passed away from liver cancer in 2004. When ABC News showed Christine the story, she became agitated and somewhat emotional.

    ?Even if it did happen, John probably wouldn?t have said anything,? she said. ?If he were still alive today, he would be furious [about the story].?

    Betsy, another sister, spoke up about the incident as well. Aside from stating that the portrayal of her brother is inaccurate, she said the family is frustrated that the story is being used to push a political agenda.

    http://www.theblaze.com/stories/family-of-romneys-alleged-bully-victim-speaks-out-the-portrayal-of-john-is-factually-incorrect/

    …surely the always accurate obama propagandists didn’t make another mistake did they???

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