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Sarah Palin Endorses Carly Fiorina: Is She Jumping the shark?

By: Tabitha Hale (Diary)  |  May 6th, 2010 at 04:00 PM  | 

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Sarah Palin just endorsed Carly Fiorina in the CA Senate race.

The initial reponse on Twitter and Facebook was shock from most of the acivists. I suppose many were convinced that Palin was still a “maverick”… which, if we’re being honest, hasn’t been true for a while. She’s becoming the establishment, for better or worse. I fail to see how endorsing Fiorina is “shaking things up”, as she states in her post.

Let’s look at the actual conservative: Chuck DeVore. He’s clearly the best candidate by our standards, and has rallied the troops among the Tea Partiers. The movement is behind him. The problem is that he’s had trouble getting the name recognition – he’s still not rising in the polls. His peak post-Campell was 14% There isn’t a lot of time left for him to gain ground.

Palin may well be making a sane judgment call by stopping Campbell at all costs. Fiorina’s got a solid shot at winning, and Palin could use the political cred that comes with endorsing a winner.

Bottom line is that this is yet another endorsement for a non-grassroots candidate, and she’s going to take another siginifcant hit to her credibility with her base in exchange for picking a winner. Probably would have been a good one to stay out of, Sarah.

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  • JHancock

    by Sarah I guess. Still, I just don’t trust Carly Fiorina not to swing moderate, especially on social issues and women’s issues. Also, judging from most of the CEO types I’ve met, CEO’s whether liberal or conservative tend to be pro-burocracy rather than pro-individual. I have to agree with Beck on this one, a conservative progressive big government is as bad as a progressive leftist one when it comes to letting us have our own financial, medical, and parental autonomy.

    • http://www.examiner.com/x-1597-Charlotte-Law--Politics-Examiner Mike gamecock DeVine

      of becoming an over-exposed media pundit.

      • peg_c

        Some of us conservative tea partiers who were huge supporters of Palin are dismayed or worse by some of her recent antics. She’s everywhere, doing and saying everything, palling around with what for us are anathemas (Juan McCainez for one), and not conducting herself as a conservative but as a media gadfly darling. She’s losing support – maybe she didn’t want it. That “Palin, Inc.” magazine cover is NOT good for conservatives still crazy about her. When we start to agree with the state-run media’s portrayals of her, something is seriously wrong.

        She needs to shut up and go away and give us a break from her. She’s becoming a true annoyance.

        • http://www.examiner.com/x-1597-Charlotte-Law--Politics-Examiner Mike gamecock DeVine
          • JHancock

            She is starting to look more like a moderate entrenched Washing R the ways she is supporting some RINOS. It’s OK to support these people…….if you must-but only after they have won the primary and there is no longer a viable conservative choice. To endorse moderates and lefties this early in the game is unacceptable for someone who purports to be the voice of conservatism—–seeing Palin do this is like watching Limbaugh french kissing Charlie Crist.

  • dhorowitz3

    While I definitely disagree with her assessment of the race, I believe her rationale is as follows. DeVore has not been able to gain traction and raise serious money and the primary is only one month away. She sees Campbell pulling away in the polls and realizes that the only way to stop him is by supporting Fiorina who although is a RINO, she is not a jihadist nut like campbell.

    With that said, I am deeply disappointed with her because had she endorsed DeVore she would have given him a chance to get on the map and have Fiorina and Campbell split the RINO vote.

    • drothgery

      … and neither guys like DeVore (unknown conservative darlings) nor guys like Campbell (slick experienced RINO pols) win statewide elections in California as Republicans in the 2000s. I’m really not optimistic about Carly’s chances in the general either, but I think she might pull it off, whereas the other two are surefire losers.

    • Vannek

      This is California. Look at who California considers to be Republican… Schwarzeneggar, Whitman, Maldonado. You won’t find Republicans like Haley Barbour, Jim DeMint and Jim Inhofe getting elected here. The exception is Tom McClintock and even he had the fight of his life getting into Congress (from what I hear, he’ll have a massive challenge in the next election). Devore has no chance of winning over independents and swing Democrats in California. Many of my independent acquaintances are willing to vote for anti-tax, fiscally conservative Republicans, but they do not look kindly on Republicans that they view as “ultra-conservative”…. like Michele Bachmann and Chuck Devore. Fiorina, at least, has a fighting chance among these voters in Califonria. We need to get rid of Boxer NOW.

  • Marcus_Traianus

    There is just not enough time (IMO) for him to close the gap and if Cambell wins Republicans are burnt toast.

    Sarah made a tough call, but the right one. Fiorina can win the whole shootin-match.

    • Ausonius

      Parallel with the 3 important things in real estate.

      I assume Fiorina had the money to plaster her name everywhere in California. Chuck baby did not have such funds: as DHorowitz notes above, what would have happened if Palin had endorsed DeVore months ago and attended some of his rallies?

      On Indiana:

      I was able to catch a few ads from Marlin Stutzman via Fort Wayne TV. He came across as typically folksy, perhaps even amateurish. Perhaps that was seen as his basic appeal in the HoosierDaddy state, but some specific points might have been nice.

      As a name “Marlin Stutzman” just does not come across as well as “Dan Coats” – unfortunately!

      Perhaps Stutzman should have dropped his last name and, similar to Hilary, he should have run as “Marlin,” using an angry sailfish skewering MAObama as his symbol. :)

      • Scope

        during an election cycle. A lunch group of women all supported a particular candidate because he had a nice butt. I literally had someone say to me that she couldn’t support Fred Thompson because he had bags under his eyes, and, he wasn’t good looking enough to look presidential. Same goes for names. So, have we gotten to the point of looks, butts and names rather than policies?

        • Ausonius

          Unfortunately the answer to your question at the end is “yes” in general.

          I knew we were doomed when the Republicans ran a grandpa against a rock star in 2008! Policies did not matter for too many people.

          Remember the old analysis of the Kennedy-Nixon debates: radio listeners thought Nixon did better. But most people watched it on TV, and they thought Kennedy won.

          Never forget the danger of democracy: morons are allowed to vote!

          • Scope

            electing the first black man to the US presidency. In many cases, it had nothing to do with who that black man was, it was all about the man in front of the cameras with black skin. Hopefully even the black community now sees that he wasn’t the right black man out of the many well more deserving, and, far less divisive.

    • SteveLA

      The technical term for Chuck DeVore’s campaign right know is “road kill”. That’s rather bad as he was pushing Fiorina to the right somewhat and he was making the discussion a much better one about who should represent the R party in November more than just who is better known, but it’s not going to happen now.

      Palin has removed a large amount of oxygen from the hard core conservative side of the R party right now, and I just can’t see how base R’s will be able to get much excitement going for DeVore.

      He’ll probably drop out sooner rather than later, unless he listens to Tom McClintock.

      • Scope

        but now conveniently you use her position to further your distorted ideas. You can’t have it both ways Stevie. We all know you hate Palin, but, in this case I guess she came in handy for you.

        • SteveLA

          Wrong again O Vapid One Scope

          Palin’s opinion about the race in CA means very little to us RINO’s, it’s the hard right mostly single issue voters who probably care. Palin’s endorsement probably hurts Fiorina come the general because she is so polarizing, the primary her endorsement hurts with attracting the CA R. base who are mostly very Pro-Life as is the Governor.

          You folks in the Eeore Republican wing really should try to pay attention, there may be quiz given at some point in the future, or even an election.

          • Scope

            you can hook up a ride back to earth? I know Obama has cut the budget for space exploration. If you stick that thumb out further, maybe the Russians will give you are ride back to Earth. You can then re-introduce oxygen into your brain cells. Do you need Dennis Kusinich’s phone number? I’ll look it up for you if you can’t access it.

          • SteveLA

            Scope you Eeyores are scaring children now, have you no shame?

          • Scope

            as I said, do you ever connect to planet earth?

          • discerningconservative
          • SteveLA
          • SteveLA

            I goofed up and embedded this video so it auto plays, it was a bone headed thing…please delete the posting.

  • red_oakster

    This is not about Palin. This is about DeVore’s weakness. Like Marlin Stutzman, DeVore has not been able either to raise money or gain traction. DeVore is now a spoiler. If he stays in the race, he helps Tom Campbell. I hope DeVore does the right thing and calls it a day.

  • trutexan

    to the establishment. McCain, Perry, and now Carley.

    • Section9

      Fiorina probably defended her on the inside. I suspect that they have been communicating for some time on this.

      • hickorystick

        during the election to defend Palin. It probably was after her Couric interview. Dont recall, dont care too.

    • bs61

      Not you, but when people try to defend her position – I see it as more political games that care nothing about Americans or our country.

  • kuksool

    Carly was endorsed by a few pro-life groups. Perhaps, Palin places a higher value on the abortion than other Tea Party activists.

    That siad Palin strikes me as a “Flick you finger in the wind” type person. She appears to endorse people who have a good chance at winning their primary.

    Say what you will about Huckabee. He did endorse DeVore and Sultzman. Also Huckabee endorsed Rubio when he was 20 points down to Crist.

  • kuksool

    Carly was endorsed by a few pro-life groups. Perhaps, Palin places a higher value on the abortion than other Tea Party activists.

    That siad Palin strikes me as a “Flick you finger in the wind” type person. She appears to endorse people who have a good chance at winning their primary.

    Say what you will about Huckabee. He did endorse DeVore and Sultzman. Also Huckabee endorsed Rubio when he was 20 points down to Crist.

  • smitch61

    Owes nothing to no one. She is not the political player. She is a true conservative, who has been bashed by many conservatives. She owes them nothing. I prefer Devore, so I am disappointed. Sarah Palin is a smart cookie and an Independent spirit. I am quite sure she knows what she is doing..

    • Scope

      with her endorsements. She has a way of endorsing those that are in the lead in the polls, rather than who has conservative values. At this point, only her most die hard zombie supporters can still have faith that she has any principles. To go from Rand Paul to Carly Fiorina is a great leap. The only thing they have in common is they are leading in the polls. Smart move if the only thing you desire is to call in the chips when you have desires to run for higher office. It probably has been her happy and gleeful support of McCain that has her lagging badly behind in support for 2012. This will undoubtedly put her at the back of the pack. Obama has worn off his mesmerizing support, Palin is following in his footsteps. Thankfully it is long before 2012.

  • smitch61

    My cousin lives in CA, she and her husband prefer Devore. She said there is no way he can win or beat Boxer. Carly can.

  • shadowtax

    A maverick is unpredictable. I would not have predicted this endorsement, but then again I only read about the California race on Redstate, which has endorsed DeVore.

    Although not a grass-roots candidate, Carly has not held political office. That is one particular flavor of anti-establishment. Sarah hangs her hat on that. Around these parts, NRSC courtship of Carly strangled Carly’s anti-establishment claims at infancy.

    I don’t question Sarah’s motives. She can speak for herself. Whatever happened to letting Sarah be Sarah?

  • califgal

    when I read the following:

    “But when asked in an interview with POLITICO if Republicans needed to make any changes in their approach to the growing Hispanic community, Fiorina replied, ‘There has been a very unfortunate racist tone that has emerged in a lot of the discussion about immigration and that’s inexcusable. We must be a country that welcomes legal immigrants to this country. We must be a country that recognizes that we have industries like agriculture that have depended on temporary migrant labor for generations.’ ”

    I made the point that I didn’t appreciate her attempt to straddle the middle with her “There has been a very unfortunate racist tone.” I made the point that it seemed to me that any “racist tone” has come from the leftist support groups like LaRaza and others, certainly not from the right or even the middle.

    I received a quick reply, a reply which never addressed my concern over that particular statement. Instead, her reply argued that Carly is very much in support of the Arizona law and very much opposed to illegal immigration.

    Her credibility already in doubt, it certainly was not strengthened at all by the fact that the salutation of her email addressed me by the wrong first name. All it had in common with my name (which is a common name and which was clearly typed at the end of my correspondence) was that it began with the same letter of the alphabet as does my name.

    I’m not a Palin fan anyway, but I will admit her endorsement of Fiorina suprised me. In many ways, this may be a boost for DeVore since Palin is not as popular with GOPers and conservatives in California as she may be elsewhere.

    • Cheryl

      because the CA Republicans I know are cool to Palin.

      • joayn

        for Fiorina will get Chuck’s name out there. Me, I’m still voting for DeVore.

        As a conservative, I think this was a really crappy thing for Palin to do. Boxer’s going to make mincemeat out of Fiorina just with her voting record alone.

  • Section9

    Tabitha, you shot yourself in the foot with your own post.

    You aren’t Palin. You aren’t the politician. You are asking Palin to waste a whole ton of street cred with the Republican Party of California and the NRSC (yes, we hate them, but sometimes we need them) by making an endorsement of someone who is (your words…)….

    The problem is that he

    • Aaron Gardner

      “the Mexicans Under the Bed Crowd”

      Is it your contention that those who would like to see illegal immigration stopped are fringe in their beliefs and deserved to be mocked for that by you?

  • Section9

    Italians, off!

    • Cheryl
  • tom246

    If she was a true conservative she could have not endorsed anyone. There is nothing that says she had to endorse a candidate and going down the slippery slope of “a Republican is better than a Democrat” got us where we are today. I don’t see the need to compromise principles just to say your name is attached to a win. If we don’t exercise principles and ethics during periods of stress we don

    • Scope

      she could have stayed out of the race completely. She is proving that she really doesn’t have any deep seated principles. That is why America loved her, for her small town principles. It is painful to admit that Achance was correct in his assessment of her long ago. She is collecting chits for later use, and that is it. A sudden big windfall of cash has a way of doing that. Sooner, rather than later, she will be lucky to even register in the polls.

  • Josh Painter

    History teaches us that California has elected nothing but liberal democrats to the U.S. Senate since the early 1950s. The last two Republican Senators were Richard Nixon (1950) and Thomas Kuchel (1953), both moderates.

    If conservatives are really serious about taking Congress back from the Dems, then that means supporting the rifgt-of-center candidates who have the best chances of winning in the general election.

    DeVore’s lack of name recognition is his Achilles Heel, and Gov. Palin obviously decided that he has little chance of winning the primary and even smaller chances of winning the general, if by some miracle he did win the primary.

    Sarah Palin is supporting those candidates that she believes have the best chances of beating Democrats. They have mostly been conservatives (Rep. Bachmann, Allen. West, Vaughn Ward, Tim Burns, Sean Duffy, Adam Kinzinger, etc.), but when she thinks a libertarian (Rand Paul) or a moderate (Fiorina) has the best chance to beat a liberal Democrat, she doesn’t shy away from giving that candidate her endorsement.

    That’s how we take back first the Congress, then the country.

    - JP

    • red_oakster

      Hayakawa andPete Wilson both served in the Senate, holding the seat from 76 to 91 when Wilson became governor (Seymour was interim until defeated by Feinstein in 92)

    • http://impudent.blognation.us/blog kyle8

      we should be pushing for conservative candidates because it has been proven by Scott Brown and others that you do not have to settle for a rino in order to win anywhere.

      Your analysis is in error.

      • bartlet

        “we should be pushing for conservative candidates because it has been proven by Scott Brown and others that you do not have to settle for a rino in order to win anywhere.”

        By Massachusetts standards I would agree that Brown is pretty conservative, (if you exclude his votes for things like Romneycare). However, by national standards he’s a moderate not as liberal as Snowe or Collins, but he’s still a moderate.

        • Scope

          is that the moderates now think that that is the way forward. Not just in Mass., but like the elites in Washington have been pushing for Dem Lite, Brown is their model, and they are pushing for that everywhere. Palin is helping them, with a little twist here and there. Palin has now risen to the same messianic point that Obama won the election on. And, there is no question that her narcissim has risen to the level of Obama’s.

  • RINKER

    She proved to be more shrewd than some folks here who would rather waste their vote on a “statement” candidate. DeVore has no chance of winning at this point. DeVore is the most conservative, but I’m not convinced Fiorina is a RINO, though. She may not be a DeMint/Coburn conservative, but it IS California. She’s probably to the right of Scott Brown, and folks on the right were leaping when he won in Massachusetts. What we need to realize is that this is turning into a 2-person race, and we need to stop Campbell at all costs.

    • http://impudent.blognation.us/blog kyle8

      in this anti-democrat climate. You are sounding just like the people who backed Crist over Rubio.

      • drothgery

        The anti-Democrat climate is why we have a (slim) chance of knocking off Boxer. It doesn’t mean Californians are suddenly going to start electing movement conservatives to major statewide offices.

        • swanie

          It’s very simple, if we do not elect Devore, then it’s Boxer or Boxer-lite! The problem with RINOS (Boxer-lite) is that it damages the Republicans! We need to push full steam ahead to seat Devore or Calif. falls off the cliff!
          GO DEVORE!

  • katiejane

    DeVore, whose own supporters concede he had little or no chance of beating Boxer, somehow means Palin has “jumped the shark”

    Does purity demand she support candidates guaranteed to lose? How does that advance the conservative effort in Congress?

    • http://erickbrockway.wordpress.com/ Erick Brockway

      Specifically which supporters sat DeVore has “little or no chance of beating Boxer”?
      I concede nothing. I support the proven conservative until the primary is over.
      Palin just joins the NRSC crowd.

      • Scope

        ideal of the RNC, NRSC and the NRCC. She sold herself to the highest bidders. They say that there is a fine line between love and hate. I believe I have crossed that line.

        • Achance

          of dead bodies in her wake to prove it.

          • Scope

            it’s admirable to know you have been right along, it’s another to gloat over it. LOL

          • Achance
          • SteveLA

            Art

            Remember, come Los Revolution, the first thing done is to round up the malcontents and send them to indoctrination camp, you’re name is getting higher on the list…. :)

          • Achance
          • hickorystick

            HS

          • SteveLA

            I only have one reverse gear in my car.

          • hickorystick

            You have to get off that Fiorina kick Steve. She’s is the worst. yah, she might line a few fiscal conservatives pockets, but she will be terrible for the country.

          • SteveLA

            hickorystick

            Remember, Babs Boxer is our current Senator, you telling me any Republican, even Campbell who I distrust, would be worse than Boxer?

            What is your objective standard, worse for this country on what issue compared to Boxer?

            DeVore is way better on fiscal matters than the whole lot of the R’s running, but in my view from CA, he would stand no chance of winning in the general mostly because Democrats are masters at beating hard core social conservatives. Maybe the vocal DeVore supporters think making a statement is important, it’s not to me, beating Babs Boxer is what is important and I don’t think DeVore can do that.

          • hickorystick

            than could be gained by her winning. I won’t have to worry about that though. My ranking: Devore then Campbell then Elvis then Fiorina. She is a narcissists, narcissist. Campbell, at least made an honest plan in 05 to balance the budget. Their were some tax increases, but even more spending cuts. He looked at the whole budget. A holistic approach if that sounds groovier.
            There’s no way Fiorina is going to say no to immigration. There is this whole illegal immigrant, welfare, crime axis through the southwest, that are killing those states. They also had a big part in crashing the national housing market, just from that southwest axis of states (Texas, Arizona, Nevada, California). Fiorina is a multi-culti panderer first and foremost.

      • joayn
    • gekster

      Damiy. Damit. Damit.

      OK. I thinks it’s out of my system…..

      oh what the hell.

      Damit, Damit , Damit.

  • aesthete

    Carly Fiorina was one of McCain’s ’08 advisors, and she campaigned for him. Sarah Palin supports McCain and, to my knowledge, hasn’t endorsed any candidates who oppose McCain’s primary picks. Why would she start now, and erase the goodwill she’s built with the McCain camp? Palin is (or was, I suppose) a politician; should we have expected differently.

  • http://www.sheetanchor.org Sheet Anchor

    Update: Governor Palin has added the following update to her post.

    I

  • wilsonpickett

    And that means backing the candidate who has a legitimate chance of unseating the ultra liberal, Barbara Boxer. As good a man as Chuck Devore may be, it doesn’t do Sarah Palin or the Conservative movement any good to back him and get pummeled at the polls.

    Your official reaction kind of reminds me of how some folks responded when Governor Palin endorsed Dr. Rand Paul in Kentucky instead of the establishment candidate. Except now the shoe is on the other foot.

    Sarah’s instincts have proven to be pretty darn good so far. I will follow those instincts any day.

    • http://erickbrockway.wordpress.com/ Erick Brockway

      So I guess you’d describe McCain as a “real conservative”?
      That was an awesome endorsement there, huh?
      She’s proven to me that she’s not about conservatism, but rather political payback.
      Fiorina worked for McCain, John asked Palin to take the leap “for him”, and over she went.
      I was able to excuse her McCain endorsement, because she would be nowhere if he hadn’t picked her.
      I’d say with this latest endorsement of Fiorina, at LEAST she and McCain would be even now, in fact McCain would owe HER.
      At worst, she’s become the very establishment we’re trying to oust.

      • txgho1911

        She didn’t have to make it a public declaration.
        Devore’s endorsers could all have quietly urged him to drop and endorse Fiorina.

        Is apathy among republicans and conservatives part of this issue of name recognition? Like Indiana the apathetic do not want the fight. Most or many have no clue where the info is on the RINO and the conservatives contesting in the primary. They don’t know REDSTATE. They think Brightbart is in this for money. ( I think he is ) Even when he is fighting to birth new media. And above all the information required for an informed vote is mentally overloading.

        Where does the call in changing the process start.

    • Scope

      and she has destroyed any credibility with those that want the people in DC that will fight. She has obviously stayed out of races until she reads the polls. Palin now represents anything with an R after their name, and, not what is right for the country. Only those under her spell will continue to support her. Obama has already proven that spells have an expiration date.

    • bs61

      It’s important – just as it was in NY-23 to see how quickly the numbers grew in a short time – right up to the election. Plus – it’s the primary, I think that is our time to get it right, then in November vote for whichever conservative can win.

  • califgal

    right–the Palin endorsement is her payback to McCain.

  • kuksool

    Just wanted to reiterate my support today for the strongest, proven conservative in the California Senate Race: @chuckdevore

    • aesthete

      Ugh.

      • SteveLA

        asethete

        Why yes, Hucka Hucka is the “true conservative”, if you mean 100 percent approval on social conservative issues by “true conservatives”, and a complete failure with his positions on every other conservative issue from fiscal discipline to military power and the future of our armed forces to foreign policy.

        Just wait for the race for 2012 to heat up, Dr. Dobson and all the rest of the usual suspects will be tripping all over themselves to get on board the Huck Hucka express.

    • Swamp_Yankee

      He does the worst job at pretending not to care.

  • cwilson

    I was willing to give her John “Maverick” McCain, as a once-off “well, she felt that she owed him her support”.

    I didn’t agree Palin owed Mr. I’ll-remain-silent-while-my-underlings-trash-the-ever-lovin-heck-out-of-my-running-mate, but was willing to forgive that SHE felt an obligation.

    There’s no way that explains a Fiorina endosement. Now, it colors even her earlier McCain support: maybe it WASN’T about loyalty, but instead…she just flat out agrees with the mushy back-stabbing RINO moderate scumbags. Or she’s voting for the sisterhood.

    Sarah Palin, Revenge of the Republican Establishment?

  • slumdog

    sadly a true conservative like Devore probably cant win in california. she should have taken the mitt romney route and stayed away from this or waited til the day before the election. p.s. I dont know about all of you but I never can make up my mind on who to vote for until they get a big endorsement its just too hard.

  • michiganwolverine

    Looks like Gov Huckabee is trying to help Devore get a little more name recognition:

    Just wanted to reiterate my support today for the strongest, proven conservative in the California Senate Race: @chuckdevore about 3 hours ago via web

    http://twitter.com/govmikehuckabee

  • michiganwolverine

    Palin’s endorsement is all about the electability issue rather than getting the right person into the job.

    Hey lets elect this person as our nominee because they can WIN. Even though I may not agree with this person or think this person would do the best job, I think they can WIN.

    What ever.

  • Achance
    • Scope

      n/t

    • E Pluribus Unum

      Fish gotta swim, horses gotta run, and cats gotta spray your fracking awesome leather Supra seats.

      Some things are given.

    • gekster

      I do not want to see what I am seeing,
      but I will not deny the truth.
      Damit.

      • gekster

        damit.

  • http://www.libertytreehugger.com reverelth

    I mean, it might help her now in the primary, but is she going to “Scott Brown” Palin and the Tea Party in the general?

  • http://www.libertytreehugger.com reverelth

    would be for Carl to pretend Palin did not exist in the General.

    Consider that my prediction.

  • pamela1631

    California does not need a Senator who did what Carly did to Hewlett Packard and Lucent Technologies.

    http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0310/34086.html

    Sheesh.

    I’m supporting Devore.
    In fact, I think I’ll make brownies for him and his crew.

    BAD CARLY! No brownies!

    • bartlet

      Too late Ahhhnold, the CA Democratic Legislature, and liberal Californians already screwed over the state. I need to get my brother out of there. : (

  • kateusa

    pragmatic, but not principled. I’ve never been enamored with Palin, and this is why. We just don’t need more faux conservatives like her.

  • kirstin

    The Palin endorsement won’t affect my vote. I can’t stand the way Fiorina acts injured when someone challenges her views. She’s not a conservative.

  • AceInTX

    it was fun while it lasted but your the establishment now

  • cactusjack

    A moldy oldy tv rerun themesong from Nick at Nite, but the tune is catchy & it seemed to fit:

    Coats was pushing cap and trade,
    Crist is handing out Kool Aid,
    Palin’s going RINO on us?
    Steele’s expense report got paid!?
    Arizona’s taking knocks,
    Huckabee is still on Fox–

    Governor Perry, where are you?

  • slumdog

    its like most of you woke up with your panties on fire and a turd in your fruit loops. vote for the candidate YOU want, have any of you really ever been persuaded to vote for someone because of the endorsements they get?

  • http://itsaboutfreedom.proboards.com IronDioPriest

    The goal in every single primary race should be to elevate the most conservative candidate who can win the general election.

    Does anyone think that a down-the-line conservative with no inkling of even a hat-tip to the center is going to win a statewide race in California? Even a milquetoast conservative like Fiorina faces an uphill battle.

    Given the political and ideological demographic in California, an

  • takemccain2

    First she endorses John McCain, the sell-out, shamnesty senator and now she endorses Fiorina, another RINO like McCain who gives lip service to conservative issues but will never fight for the cause.

    Too bad.

    She didn’t have my vote anyway after taking sides with McCain and you can sure bet she will never get it now. Even Mitt Romney is out there trying to shore up that Utah phony Bennett. I hope he, McCain and Palin all lose next time they run.

    Way to listen to the voters, Sarah!

  • vftruth

    Sarah has been listening to John McCain too much. Last year in all the polls, Sarah was dead last with the Moderates and Independents. She has started gaining traction with that crowd, and I believe it’s because of her backing McCain and people like Carly.

    Sarah has tried so hard to come off anti-Establishment, but I’ll bet McCain told her if you want to win in 2012, you have to be backed by the Establishment..hence her change in endorsements. Where are her principles?

    If you listen to all of you, you sound just like the people who voted for McCain in 2008 because he was electable, rather than who you liked the most. Stick with your values, and give that person a shot, rather than voting for who you think will win. If everybody did that, the person you like would eventually win!

    In the last PPP KY 2012 Pres. poll, Sarah had the highest number of “liberals” to support her. She tied with Mike Huckabee for 1st place. BUT, Mike Huckabee actually had more of the “moderate” vote…imagine that! He is not just popular with the social conservatives. Mike Huckabee has won more of the monthly PPP Presidential polls for 2012 – 10 out of 12, than anybody including Mitt Romney. To do that, he had to win over the Independents and the Moderate voters besides the Republican and Conservative voters.

    Mike Huckabee sticks with his principles and endorses them even if they aren’t in the lead, like Rubio. He was the first person to endorse Rubio after the Establishment already endorsed Crist, and Rubio was 20-30 points down in the polls. Yet, people still vote for him when it comes to the polls.

  • swanie

    and as such, he must win the primary and Nov. or it simply doesn’t matter!!!! If we don’t propel Devore into The People’s seat.. then Boxer-Fiorina-Campbell…they are all the same. But it’s worse than that…if we seat a RINO like either Carly or Tom, then once AGAIN the Republicans will take the heat for more progressive and bad decisions! Something tells me Palin didn’t bother to think about the REAL ramifications to Calif. This is perhaps the best circumstance we have had in YEARS to seat a true conservative like Chuck Devore.

    I say pull out the stops…full steam ahead….GO CHUCK.

  • SirGladiator

    I and many others here supported DeVore, as he clearly is the most conservative candidate in the race. However as we get close to election day, we see that he seems to have little to no chance to win, while two other candidates do. One, Fiorina, is clearly ‘trying’ to sound Conservative. She’s pro-life, pro-marriage, pro-2nd Amendment, all the things that Governor Palin mentioned in her tweet. Her opponent, Campbell, is a liberal Democrat, pro-abortion, anti-marriage, he’s no better than Boxer except possibly on certain other issues. I wouldn’t vote for the guy for dog catcher, much less US Senator.

    If we as Conservatives split our vote in the Primary, this isn’t Indiana where we still get a Conservative, just a less Conservative than somebody good like Stutzman. We get a liberal Democrat as our nominee, and in a year where anybody who wins the nomination has a very real chance of winning in November, that is totally unacceptable. If you don’t trust Fiorina to stick to her stated Conservative beliefs I can’t blame you for that, she clearly doesn’t have a track record as a movement Conservative like DeVore has. What she does have is the ability to keep a proven liberal Democrat from getting the nomination of our party, sadly its an ability that DeVore does not seem to have, having had plenty of time and opportunity to demonstrate that he did. Fiorina did recently earn a LOT of pro-life endorsements, no doubt the strengthening of her pro-life credentials may have played a role in Governor Palin’s endorsement. I applaud, and support, the Governor’s endorsement of Fiorina, she is by far and away our best hope to stop the far-left Campbell from winning the nomination and setting up a liberal vs liberal matchup in November, that we lose no matter which one wins.

  • Adjoran

    DeVore is the best candidate and would be the best Senator, without a doubt. But if he hasn’t gained traction in the Republican race by now, with only a month until the primary, there comes a time when you have to realize it isn’t happening for him.

    DeVore’s had more positive attention over a longer period of time than Stutzman in Indiana. Stutzman was able to take advantage of that to at least surge to a healthy second place, and perhaps instant frontrunner status if Lugar hangs up his eyebrows in 2012, so the effort at least showed some tangible results.

    Not so with DeVore. Whether it’s just California or some other reason, he didn’t cut the mustard.

    Taking frustration out on Palin is childish and nonproductive. Save some of the indignation for when the isolationist fringe nut Rand Paul screws us on foreign policy and national security votes, mmmkay?

    • satchmo

      because Palin’s PAC has been pumping money and support to Fiorina for months? Certainly hasn’t helped his cause, wouldn’t you say?

  • AceInTX

    Many shrugged off her endorsement and support for McCain as misplaced loyalty. I took a slightly harder stand on that and called her naive but deep down I hoped it was misplaced loyalty.

    This seals it for me!!

    Sarah is playing ball with the establishment…and this appears to me to be proof of that. Fiorina is a hand picked lackey of John Syndney McCain. The way this looks to me is that she’s listening to McCain and his strategists as she positions herself to run for the White House.

    While can see why you would want to get advice from people who have been in Washington and done this all their lives…the down side is…you end up taking on the conventional “inside the beltway” characteristics” that so many of us hate.

    This is death for Sarah Palin…the basis of her whole appeal is her status as an outside the beltway CONSERVATIVE “Maverick”. as soon as she starts looking like an insider and allows herself to be co-opted and watered down byt the very RINO types who just last years were dumping trash all over her…the whole basis of her appeal goes out the window…

    This is jumping the shark…and…do we need anything more than the fact that Carly is a McCain pick to know we can’t trust her?

    This is the end of Sarah Palin I’m afraid

  • satchmo

    Becoming establishment??? She’s always been establishment. She’s nothing special. This is what happens to all populists.

    The endorsement of Fiorina should be no surprise since Palin’s PAC has been pumping money to Fiorina for a looooooong time.

  • ZootSuit

    Quite frankly, if you look at Sarah Palin’s record, as meager as it is, she is no “second coming of Reagan.” Sarah Palin is at best a lukewarm conservative who lacks intellectual depth and is also a political opportunist. And if you look at her record yourself, you’ll see that that’s what she has always been.

    Consider just two examples of her as a gubernatorial candidate and then Governor of Alaska:

    1) She was for the “bridge to nowhere” before she was against it; making support for it a cornerstone of her campaign, keeping the Federal money when building the bridge became an embarrassment and a symbol of government waste and pork, and then lying repeatedly about her actions later. That’s definitely not conservative.

    2) Her windfall profits tax on oil producers. Enough said. That’s definitely not conservative, either.

    To her credit and unlike many so-called conservative Republicans, I think Sarah Palin sincerely believes in conservative principles but, unfortunately, has has no understanding of them and consequently does not (and has never really) fight for them. Indeed, Palin often betrays conservative principles.

    Quite frankly, Sarah Palin ran and governed little different from what I imagine a Carly Fiorina might. Incompetency and all.

    But it’s not that she has done things like the above. The problem is that her supporters and sycophants continually excuse, ignore and pretend these things are not true.

    The odd thing is that I’m probably not as disappointed with Sarah Palin as many of you. And it’s not because I like Carly Fiorina — for the record, I don’t; I don’t trust her politics and I think her tenure at HP was a disaster

    No politician is perfect — even Reagan had his faults — but it is up to the base to keep them honest. What frightened me about Sarah Palin, and still frightens me to a great extent, is that much of the base seemed totally enamored with her and absolutely refuse to confront her.

    If Sarah Palin were somehow elected President and did the exact same things as Barack Obama, I fear half of RedState would not only go along with but be actively supporting what she does as “conservative.”

    And if you think I’m being a fatalist and unrealistic, think about how we conservatives behaved during the liberalism of the Bush years, especially when Tom Delay and Bill Frist were running the Congress.

    • aesthete

      While I’m glad that the establishment has been forced to steal some of the better canticles in the libertarian hymnbook, I have to wonder what might have happened had a President Romney won and enacted some form of RomneyCare (which is basically what ObamaCare is). I hope that activists become more cynical, and that they divest themselves from the Republican leadership while continuing to work inside the Republican party for their policy preferences.

  • mikerazar

    but anyone who thinks that the American people are ready for a candidate who is more conservative than Sarah Palin ought to give us an example and explain which actual positions on actual issues cause you to believe that? Differences on political tactics do not define the split between conservatives and RINOs.

  • kuksool

    Tommorrow Palin will back Redstate favorite, Nikki Haley.

    Interesting dynamic in the SC Gov primary. Romney & Palin for Haley. Huckabee for Andre Bauer. Rick Santorum for Gresham Barrett.

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