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On today’s edition of Coffee and Markets, Brad Jackson and Ben Domenech are joined by Francis Cianfrocca to discuss Mitt Romney‘s Wall Street experience, his cozy relationship with them now, and whether or not that would make him a good President.
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nancysabet Monday, January 2nd at 10:09AM EDT (link)are giving Santorum a bump in Iowa at just the right time (if we had 2-3 weeks we could discuss Santorum backing Specter over Toomey in 04?, which cost Santorum his PA Senate seat in 2006
Romney needs Santorum in Iowa real bad…if Newt or Rick Perry get their ticket punched in Iowa, Romney’s dead. Why is Romney pulling for Santorum ?If Santorum were to win the Iowa Caucus on January 3rd, he gets his ticket punched out of Iowa
Santorum and ethanol subsidies
bear1454 Monday, January 2nd at 12:41PM EDT (link)Your exactly right. Another point worth mentioning – Santorum is in favor of ethanol subsidies, (http://www.clubforgrowth.org/whitepapers/?subsec=137&id=902) where someone like Perry is opposed. Money is always a factor in any election, regardless of all the other issues. Iowa hasn’t been hit with the high unemployment like other states, so they’ve been immune to what other states have been going through. Also, because of the GOP primary rule changes, many of these early primaries will not be winner take all in regards to the delegate count, but proportional. Santorum has no money or organization for the long haul. Perry and Newt do. The media is deceiving people by not mentioning the new GOP delegate rules.
what are you talking about, Iowa has some major problems with the employment, my city is 8.8%, and higher if you count the real numbers
center77 (Diary) Monday, January 2nd at 2:56PM EDT (link)but as a state overall we do have it around 6.5%, We have two of the top cities, but our population is not growing like Texas, so our numbers are not as good as it seems, That is why we voted in a Republican,
My name is Timothy Bladel. I’m from Davenport, Iowa. I am a Undergraduate, Double Majoring in Journalism & Mass communication, with my other major being political science. I am conservative in nature, sometimes a tad bit libertarian; the Tenth Amendment is vital to changing this country for the better.
Mitt Romney 2012, but not without the truth of who he is.
www.timothy-bladel.com
“We the people” tell the government what to do, it doesn’t tell us. We the people are the driver, the government is the car. And we decide where it should go, and by what route, and how fast.” Ronald Reagan’s farewell address (January 11, 1989)
Santorum and ethanol subsidies
bear1454 Monday, January 2nd at 12:41PM EDT (link)Your exactly right. Another point worth mentioning – Santorum is in favor of ethanol subsidies, (http://www.clubforgrowth.org/whitepapers/?subsec=137&id=902) where someone like Perry is opposed. Money is always a factor in any election, regardless of all the other issues. Iowa hasn’t been hit with the high unemployment like other states, so they’ve been immune to what other states have been going through. Also, because of the GOP primary rule changes, many of these early primaries will not be winner take all in regards to the delegate count, but proportional. Santorum has no money or organization for the long haul. Perry and Newt do. The media is deceiving people by not mentioning the new GOP delegate rules.
The proof is in Mitt's Super Pac ads
goodgovernance Monday, January 2nd at 2:27PM EDT (link)If Santorum’s rise was hurting Mitt in any way, you’d think Romney’s Super Pac friends would spend some money going after Santorum.
Instead, the Super Pac money is still all about attacking Gingrich. No coordination, Mitt? Please. Whatever you think about Gingrich, Romney is playing a most duplicitous game with the public. Having ads hit his opponents below the belt, while Mitt himself drones through the lyrics of “America The Beautiful” without any real passion, in a bland and failed attempt to look patriotic.
But not to worry. Mitt’s got an ad that fixes that for him, too.
Better Wall Street than ACORN
johnt Monday, January 2nd at 10:24AM EDT (link)and better cozy than antagonistic. If there are other means of raisng capital I’m all ears.
“a man’s admiration for absolute government is proportinate to the contempt he feels for those around him”. Tocqueville
Cozy but not a puppet
nuclear139 Monday, January 2nd at 10:39AM EDT (link)We need a better relationship with the business community that have grown scared of the socialist and antagonistic policies of the last three years but we don’t need a Wall Street puppet for president. Romney as president must protect businesses with out being used by them, in other words he needs to lead them and not follow. He must listen to their concerns and act on it but also he needs to have the judgement to know when average Americans maybe hurt by bad business practices. Businesses are the engine of our economy and the will need a mechanic that can jump start it.
well it does not matter what we thihnk of wall street, it matters what the independents think
center77 (Diary) Monday, January 2nd at 2:58PM EDT (link)and I have a feeling they are not as content with businesses like Bain as you may be,
My name is Timothy Bladel. I’m from Davenport, Iowa. I am a Undergraduate, Double Majoring in Journalism & Mass communication, with my other major being political science. I am conservative in nature, sometimes a tad bit libertarian; the Tenth Amendment is vital to changing this country for the better.
Mitt Romney 2012, but not without the truth of who he is.
www.timothy-bladel.com
“We the people” tell the government what to do, it doesn’t tell us. We the people are the driver, the government is the car. And we decide where it should go, and by what route, and how fast.” Ronald Reagan’s farewell address (January 11, 1989)
center77, it does matter what we think,
johnt Monday, January 2nd at 4:36PM EDT (link)as well we understand the process of capitalization & investment. If the vaunted independents are ignorant then I can only hope that thry are not so blank as to be unable to locate other reasons for supporting Romney, assuming it comes down to him
Almost by definition, and forgive my cynicism, but “independent” is virtually synonymous with political ignorance. It is a problem in every election. In any case my first post makes two points, I see no reason to either elaborate or defend them. I do think nuclear139 comes closer to the mark. In any case let us hope for the best candidate and the best results.
“a man’s admiration for absolute government is proportinate to the contempt he feels for those around him”. Tocqueville
I agree, but still think Wall Street matters
center77 (Diary) Monday, January 2nd at 7:08PM EDT (link)the Tea Party ran against the Wall Street bailouts and won big. If Republicans are seen to now be in bed with Wall Street, it will be bad for the party, and the nation.
My name is Timothy Bladel. I’m from Davenport, Iowa. I am a Undergraduate, Double Majoring in Journalism & Mass communication, with my other major being political science. I am conservative in nature, sometimes a tad bit libertarian; the Tenth Amendment is vital to changing this country for the better.
Mitt Romney 2012, but not without the truth of who he is.
www.timothy-bladel.com
“We the people” tell the government what to do, it doesn’t tell us. We the people are the driver, the government is the car. And we decide where it should go, and by what route, and how fast.” Ronald Reagan’s farewell address (January 11, 1989)
Wall Street and Main Street
nuclear139 Monday, January 2nd at 10:25AM EDT (link)What I am focused on is how Romney can use his business experience and relationship with Wall Street to build a bridge between the business class and average Americans. Can he utilize the lessons he learned about the free market in a way that can put the middle class back to work and whether a president Romney can be both an advocate for business as well as a protector of average Americans who have been abused by the corrupt business practices of a few Wall Street bad apples.
And the answer to your question is "No."
goodgovernance Monday, January 2nd at 2:31PM EDT (link)Whatever Mitt may or may not have accomplished in the private sector, we already know what he’s capable of in a governmental capacity.
In Massachusetts when he was governor, job creation was down near the very bottom, at a time the economy was good. That tells you everything you need to know.
Either Mitt has no idea how to kindle job growth, or he was rolled by the Democrats of Massachusetts. Or maybe he was just too intimidated by them to even try.
That's all we need
seanl (Diary) Monday, January 2nd at 10:58AM EDT (link)more government regulations and bailouts that benefit Romney’s cronies on Wall Street.
Rick Santorum – moving America forward by bringing back the values that made this country great. But I don’t believe this at all, actually! I’m a moby who calls people hypocrites! That means that I think ‘irony’ means ‘like iron’!
The Premise of the Question is Badly Flawed!
Wubbies World (Diary) Monday, January 2nd at 11:00AM EDT (link)This is the same question about Bush, Cheney and Big Oil.
The question, right or wrong, is does knowledge of how Wall St works help or hurt the President when making decisions about how to improve our nation’s financial position?
The same question can be asked of an oil man. Does knowledge about how energy is produced help or hurt the president in his decision making about how to produce energy?
The simple question comes down to any matter for the president. Will a ignorant novice make better or worse decisions about an industry that someone who actually has knowledge of an industry?
The correct question is to ask if the president, or president to be have the integrity to not abuse his position and knowledge for personal gain? That is the correct question.
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Hmmm. A slight change, Wubbies ?
acat (Diary) Monday, January 2nd at 11:14AM EDT (link)I don’t disagree with your conclusions – the initial question is, indeed, flawed, and integrity is critical.
However.
For myself, I’d vastly prefer someone with a pragmatic humility – specifically, enough self-aware humility to recognize when he or she needs to call in outside experts on banking or energy or rocket science.
I’ll take someone who is able to recognize their limits and who can learn effectively over someone who is convinced he or she is a subject expert.
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acat, no disagreement from me......
Wubbies World (Diary) Monday, January 2nd at 11:25AM EDT (link)… my point is that knowledge does not make a person evil or bad, and it can make for a good thing.
The recognition that a President can not know everything about everything is normal. I would be incredulous if anybody running claimed to know it all.
The best quality of all, and this is what executive experience is all about, is knowing how to surround yourself with good people who do know what is needed to be known to get the job done.
Humility and integrity are the two best qualities of all.
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To get better answers we need to ask better questions
nuclear139 Monday, January 2nd at 11:23AM EDT (link)You asked the right question will a president abuse his position and the knowledge he has for personal gain? This is a question voters will ask come November of Romney because since leaving Bain Capital he has received money from them and his ties are so deep with the company and other companies he has built up like Staples that it will be crucial to ask if intends to benefit them in order to gain personally while in office. A president’s integrity is most important and if we are to get better answer from them on what they will do in office we need to ask better questions.
To get better answers we need to ask better questions
nuclear139 Monday, January 2nd at 11:23AM EDT (link)You asked the right question will a president abuse his position and the knowledge he has for personal gain? This is a question voters will ask come November of Romney because since leaving Bain Capital he has received money from them and his ties are so deep with the company and other companies he has built up like Staples that it will be crucial to ask if intends to benefit them in order to gain personally while in office. A president’s integrity is most important and if we are to get better answer from them on what they will do in office we need to ask better questions.
Very good point
stumpy Monday, January 2nd at 11:34AM EDT (link)The real question should be Romney’s integrity. He has none. He will say and do whatever he thinks will advance his own political fortunes. He is Republican Bill Clinton without the charisma and sexual issues.
Romney pretends to be whatever he thinks is popular. We need integrity and a willingness to admit mistakes, not excuse them away.
Vote Perry!
What's Mitt Romney Wall Street experience?
thirstyboots Monday, January 2nd at 11:32AM EDT (link)I fully agree with this:
The problem is that Romney worked for a private equity firm that leveraged investor money — oftentimes from Wall Street banks, but also from other sources — and not for a financial services company that specialized in creating exotic derivatives of questionable integrity. Private equity firms were not a main cause of the economic crisis and also were not in need of bailouts,
http://hotair.com/headlines/archives/2011/12/19/i-dont-think-anybody-gets-confused-that-bain-capital-is-part-of-that-whole-wall-street-structure/
The obvious answer is No. Absolutely Not.
unsk Monday, January 2nd at 11:50AM EDT (link)America has been raped by Wall Street. The TBTF have conned our elected and appointed out of trillions to the grave detriment of the American Public.
You cannot serve the monster felons of Wall Street and small business at the same time.
America desperately needs small business to come back. That will never happen as long as the we continue to bailout the criminal elite of Wall Street.
The TBTF are clearly insolvent. Their trillions in derivative bets, MBS and ttheir other fraudulent schemes cannot and will not be covered any way you look at it. Continuing to fund this Wall Street black hole through the T Bill for Euro swaps, QE 3,4,5 etc, ZIRP and all the rest of machinations of the Bernank and Geithner will only dig the hole deeper.
We are quickly approaching the financial abyss; it’s time to clean up this rotten mess before it sinks us all. Romney will never in a million years take down these felons and clean up Wall Street.
But I have an even greater issue with Romney. Last week in an interview with the WSJ, Romney came out for some sort of VAT.
The VAT is one of the holiest of grails for the Left. With a VAT, Big Government would have a reliable revenue source to significantly increase the size of government even far beyond the disgusting bloat Obama has saddled us with. The rent seeking Progressive/Corporatist alliance of the TBTF, the unions, the bureaucracy, the Greens, the Academics and the Welfare cheats could increase their market share of the economy to an almost unassailable position where pay to play corruption rules the day, even down to the smallest endeavor. A VAT would likely mean an end to American Free Enterprise as we know it.
And true to form, Romney wants a VAT. A VAT that could destroy American Free Enterprise. Think about that for a moment. Why?
As he did in Massachuetts, He wants to lead America far to the Left, to a place the Democrats could only dream of. It’s been obvious for along time that the RINO wing of the Republican party prefers fashionable Progressive positions to real conservative ones. With Romney in office, the Progressive Rino wing would have cover to vote with the Democrats, to forge a new “bi-partisan” alliance to “show we can govern” and enslave American into a Progressive serfdom. With Romney in office, a Rino/Democrat alliance would have the votes and the power to take the country far to the left . Conservatives would he powerless to stop it.
Right now Obama is a spent force. He could never get a VAT passed. The Progressive/Corporatist alliances best hope for a corrupt pay to play stranglehold on America is Romney. That is why Romney is far more dangerous to the American Dream than Obama.
This is the tripe we expect from Liberals
Ed54 (Diary) Monday, January 2nd at 12:06PM EDT (link)declare an entire class to be an Enemy of the People, blame everything on them, and use that to distract the public and manipulate their anger to give you more power. Worked great for Lenin and has become a standard tactic ever since. First the Kulaks, now Wall Street.
“If all men were just, there would be no need of valor.”
- Agesilaus
What a crock.
unsk Monday, January 2nd at 1:04PM EDT (link)What a crock. Wall Street is not a class of people. You have a relatively small group of people controlling the actions of the these banks. The vast majority of the people working on Wall Street has little or no influence on their actions.
The actions of the FED. the TBTF executives and the responsible politicians simply cannot be justified. Small Business in this country in case you hadn’t noticed is getting hammered. Hardly any new bank funding is available for new small business ventures and credit lines for existing business in many, many cases have been cut or eliminated. Meanwhile corporate bond rates for large corporations have fallen to historic lows.
With wholesale corruption of our banking system and the trillions given willy nilly to the TBTF, any citizen even remotely concerned about the Constitution and the rule of law should be appalled. To call this ‘tripe we expect from Liberals” reflects very poorly on you.
B of A was recently allowed to put 77 Trillion , ( that ‘s a T for Trillion) in derivatives into it’s banking arm. Under the Banking Reform Act of 2005, in case of a default, the claims for those derivatives are to be paid before those of depositors. Now the legality of this scheme seems very unclear, but it would appear that the FDIC fund’s ability to pay deposit insurance has been severely compromised, in as much as 77 Trillion dwarfs the amount of all American currency in circulation by a rough factor of ten. Can you possibly explain how this happened? And I suppose this is okay with you?
No, but it makes him un-electable because..
david1313 Monday, January 2nd at 11:52AM EDT (link)of the type of campaign Obama is likely to run. I know Obama gets money from Wall STreet, but he will get a pass. Obama is positioning himself to run against Romney and has fashioned to show him as Wall Street and a part of the 1 %. It does not matter if the same can be said of him, it will not matter. Romney is a target, and will not win in November. I can vote for anyone else, other than Ron Paul. Rick, Rick, Michelle, Jon or Newt. I prefer Newt.
Clinton and Barney Frank deserve
bogeyman Monday, January 2nd at 12:51PM EDT (link)most of the credit for the 2008 meltdown. Unfortunately Bush and “Wall Street” got most of the blame, but it was really attributable to excees government regulation in the form of the Community Reinvestment Act.
Originally enacted in 1977 by Jimmy Carter to outlaw the practice of “redlining” the CRA gradually grew and forced banks and mortgage brokers to relax lending standards in order to comply with CRA lending requirements. Practices such as no money down, no income verification, etc were employed in order to lend to minorities and low income applicants that otherwise would not be qualified.
Most financial institutions thought they were buying safe mortgages. Rather than learning from these mistakes, it seem that most people are now content to blame “Wall Street”, “greedy bankers” etc.
I once believed as you do.
unsk Monday, January 2nd at 2:36PM EDT (link)Back in the campaign of ’08, I cringed when John Mc Cain blamed Wall Street. Then I believed that the problem stemmed almost totally from the CRA. But upon further investigation, I have been forced to change my mind.
The problem did indeed start with the CRA. During the Clinton Administration the Boston Fed forced banks to significantly relax lending standards in poor areas to their detriment in conformance with the ideas of the CRA. However, there appears to have been a quid pro quo. It appears the TBTF struck a deal with the Devil.
In exchange for essentially funding what became a unsustainable multi- trillion dollar welfare mortgage program for the poor, the Big Banks got the elimination of Glass-Steagall, a policy of self policing of banking regulation and most importantly in the wake of the Basel II accords, an almost total elimination of banking reserve standards.
The lessons of the Great Depression and the S&L Crisis had been completely forgotten.
With the ability to do investment banking, unlimited leverage, and lax banking regulation enforcement, the TBTF were able to create the most massive Ponzi scheme in history that is still continuing , without any fear of prosecution or losses.
“Capitalize the profits, Socialize the losses” became the mantra and we the taxpayers were the ultimate mark. Because it was believed that the Fed would always bail them out, the TBTF took incredibly risky but also unbelievably lucrative bets, and for a long time the con worked. The top four TBTF have sold over 242 Trillion in derivatives. Just imagine the fees alone on that swindle. Much of that, in collusion with Fannie and Freddie had at least the illusion of full faith and credit of the United States of America behind it. Because there was little chance of prosecution, the TBTF would knowingly create these in reality junk rated MBS, market them as AAA and then short them in complete violation of the law. Those who want to defend the TBTF had better think really hard about all the smaller banks, corporations and individuals defrauded in this massive scheme. And that doesn’t even address the millions who have been ruined by the resultant Depression. This is without question the biggest bank heist in the history of the world ( and there is nothing anywhere close) and it was an inside job from the git go.
Romney is the worst candidate for this time in history
tomatin Monday, January 2nd at 3:12PM EDT (link)But hey he’s the next in line so GOP voters will fall in line for him and lead him to slaughter. Frankly I’ll be happy when Romney loses in 2012 and then maybe after selecting two milquetoast moderates we will learn by 2016 to nominate a conservative.