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Anti-Obamacare = Pro-Slavery?

Godwin's Law is for sissies.

Scaling new heights of moonbattery , Huffington Post columnist Manisha Sinha posits that arguments against Obamacare and other Federal intrusions on states’ rights have their roots in the pro-slavery movement, ca. 1840-60:

Long before Tea Party activists and other sundry conservatives detected the ghost of socialism in health care reform and financial regulation legislation, proslavery theorists argued that abolition was akin to socialism. Even though the Lincoln administration would preside over the largest uncompensated confiscation of property in American history, four million slaves valued at around three billion dollars, the Republican party of the Civil War era was as far from socialism as the Obama administration is today.

Not only do contemporary accusations of a drift towards socialism have historical roots in the debates over secession but the alleged rights of the states to nullify or veto federal laws and secede from the Union are also enjoying a newfound popularity. {Emphasis added.]

A few observations:

  • Ms. Sinha makes me feel silly and delusional for accusing self-described socialists of having socialist tendencies.
  • I really don’t feel like researching it, but I could swear that HuffPo’s position has generally been “Of Course Obamacare is Socialist; Get Over It!”
  • How doubly silly of people to read the 10th Amendment, and then expect it to mean something: “The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.”
  • It’s just a guess, but I’d bet that John C. Calhoun never once made reference to Marx and Engels in debating slavery.
  • Detecting the “ghost of socialism” in HCR is a lot like detecting “the ghost of a football player” in DeSean Jackson.

COMMENTS

  • http://www.tobytoons.com TobyToons

    I think the only argument that the left knows how to argue anymore (besides just calling names and accusing people of being gay) is the charge of racism. That is what Ms. Sinha’s argument comes down to – the tired old rhetoric of Conservative = Racist.

  • jeffreywturner

    If she and / or Obama are not Socialists, then can she please explain exactly what economic aspects of an individual’s existence she believes that the individual, and not the government, is responsible to provide.

    If government is to provide healthcare, housing, food, college, retirement, etc., then what exactly should we as individuals be responsible for providing for ourselves?

    If you can’t answer this simple question, then it is time to admit that you are indeed a Socialist, and it is just a matter of gradation. Are you the most extreme Socialist who does not even believe in the concept of private property, or are you a more moderate Socialist who at least thinks people should have some small sense of individual ownership?

    • http://seekingliberty.wordpress.com fmaidment

      n/t

  • Mike Ferguson

    NT

  • dennism

    This kind of claim – that proslavers described abolition as socialism – cries out for a citation. The sense I have of it is that the term wasn’t in common usage in the States pre-Civil War, and even then, it didn’ty carry the negative connotation is does now.

    • http://vladenblog.tumblr.com Vladimir

      …if you believe in the First Amendment, since that’s the refuge that NAMBLA would claim.

    • spinoneone

      The question as to when the concept was discussed as an ideology is an interesting one. Since there are several versions of “socialism” the answer is not clear, but Auguste Blanqui would be an appropriate answer. Blanqui helped lead the Revolution of 1830 in France, as well as influenced the Revolution of 1848 and the Paris Commune of 1871, the first successful Socialist state.Socialism based on Trade Unionism and on Christianity existed long before Marx. Proudhonism came before Marxism solidified as well. In both men’s discussions, the State would insure the needs of the “people” were met but ‘state capitalism’ would be allowed. This also provided the theoretical foundation for fascism.

      • http://vladenblog.tumblr.com Vladimir

        http://ngrams.googlelabs.com/graph?content=Socialism&year_start=1800&year_end=2000&corpus=0&smoothing=3

      • http://impudent.edublogs.org/ kyle8

        in the seventeenth century, I forgot which city. But I remember it ended badly.

        • buckeyetex315

          Remember the Mayflower Compact and that when the Pilgrims landed at Plymouth Rock, they set up a socialist society where all “worked” for the common good. But it didn’t quite turn out that way. Many didn’t work and they all nearly starved to death the first year. Only when they abandoned the socialism did their productivity increase enough to save themselves. The result was their first Thanksgiving feast.

      • The_Gadfly

        a third of the Heavenly host with him.

        But it didn’t rise in ascendancy until Marx and Engles seized on its demonic roots and gave it a new name.

  • ihateliberals

    that “You can’t fix Stupid”! Ignorance can be fixed but stupid is just stupid.

  • grampster

    then I would bring up the welfare state created by the Democrats and the so called present day “leaders” of the civil rights movement that promote and underpin thewelfare state status quo that oppresses black people as well as being complicit in the terrible destruction of the black family unit.

  • doubledok

    accepting government control of the internet. Manisha Sinha, in this ignoramus diatribe, creates as clear an example of blatant rhetorical sniveling as imaginable. They Left now assaults the internet for inaccuracies, need for censorship, and divisive partisanship. After seeing Ms. Sinha exploit the free access, I suspect most of the world’s conservative thinkers will now support the severe restriction to access that the propagandist Obama-FCC put forward.

    Do not be fooled! Manisha Sinha is a droid idiot and not a real person – she was created by Obama to bolster the FCC takeover of the internet. (This type of post is exactly why we allow people to change their name.) Now Manisha Sinha can resurrect herself as someone without the reputation for agenesis of the frontal lobe. In her new identity no one will know she produced this garbage — unless she speaks. Then truth will again appear and she will have to wait another ten years to change her name unless she divorces or remarries.

    That or — this is further proof that the education system suffers form idiocy, too.

  • miroco

    My latest movement should solve most of the problem. The Dems girlie men should be no problem without the support of the hormonal feeeeling sex..