Trump Lets Loose on DeSantis, Pelosi, and the Media in Eye-Opening NBC News Interview

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On Sunday, Former President Donald Trump participated in an interview with Kristen Welker on NBC’s “Meet the Press where he weighed in on a wide range of issues. He discussed his campaign for the presidency, immigration, the war in Ukraine, economic problems, and the indictments against himself and Hunter Biden.

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During the interview, Trump defended his policies and also took a shot at Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis over his stance on abortion. He also answered questions about the Jan. 6 incident at the U.S. Capitol building.

The former president emphasized his administration’s economic achievements and discussed inflation, which has become a prominent sticking point for the American public. “I would get inflation down, because drill we must,” he said. “We are going to reduce our debt because we’re also going to become energy dominant.”

Trump also addressed the contentious debate over the 2020 presidential election when answering Welker’s question about whether he would appoint an attorney general who would prosecute his opponents:

No, no. I would never do that. But Biden has done that. Look, Biden — these aren’t indictments against me. These are Biden indictments. This isn’t God coming down and very fairly said, “Oh, you spoke badly about an election.” The election was rigged. There’s no question about that. There’s so much proof on it. Even if you go to the more modern-day proof with the — they call it Twitter Files, FBI and Twitter, or you take a look at the Amazon stuff or the Google stuff, or you take a look at “2,000 Mules,” you take a look at all of the ballot stuffing that’s on tape, you take a look at the fact that the legislatures didn’t approve a lot of the things that were done in the elections, and they had to approve. And we could go on forever. We could go on forever. But, but no. I want somebody that’s going to be strong, respected, tough, and fair.

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Welker discussed the Supreme Court’s ruling last year that overturned Roe v. Wade and brought up women who filed lawsuits in their states claiming that their lives were threatened because of abortion restrictions. “How is it acceptable in America that women’s lives are at risk, doctors are being forced to turn away patients in need, or risk breaking the law?” she asked.

Trump responded, noting that now, pro-lifers “have the right to negotiate for the first time” since the Supreme Court’s decision and pointed out how Democrats believe that “after five months, six months, seven months, eight months, nine months, and even after birth, you’re allowed to terminate the baby.”

When asked if he would sign a 15-week federal abortion ban, he didn’t give a definitive answer but said he “would sit down with both sides and…negotiate something.” He then brought up DeSantis, noting that the governor was “willing to sign a five-week and six-week ban.”

Welker asked whether Trump would support a similar ban. Trump responded:

I think what he did is a terrible thing and a terrible mistake. But we’ll come up with a number, but at the same time, Democrats won’t be able to go out at six months, seven months, eight months and allow an abortion. And Kristen, you have to look at this, because you said “no.” You have some states that are allowed to kill the child after birth, and you can’t allow that.

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The conversation later turned to the series of indictments against Trump, who referred to them multiple times as “Biden indictments,” reflecting the political nature of his legal troubles.

You know what? He started something that’s a very slippery slope. He said, “I’ve got a guy that’s beating me in the polls.” I’m beating all the Republicans by a lot, and I’m beating him by a lot. “I have somebody that’s beating me in the polls. Indict him.” And they, not only that, they took their top person in the Department of Justice and put him into the Manhattan DA’s office.

The reporter asked Trump if he worries about going to jail when he is in bed at night. The former president gave a classic response:

No, I don’t really. I don’t even think about it. I’m built a little differently I guess, because I have had people come up to me and say, “How do you do it, sir? How do you do it?” I don’t even think about it. These are corrupt people that I’m dealing with. They’re destroying our country. I don’t even think about it. All I think about is making the country great, making America great.

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Predictably, the conversation also centered on the Jan. 6 riot. He refuted the constant allegations that he somehow incited the violence. “First of all, I had very little to do with January 6th. I was asked to speak. And I was the president of the United States. I’m allowed to do that. But I was asked to speak,” he said, also noting that the media purposely leaves out the fact that Trump told his supporters to protest “peacefully and patriotically.”

He then turned his sights on former House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, who he accused of refusing to provide National Guard troops to keep the peace at the Capitol on that day.

I offered 10,000 people to the mayor of Washington D.C. and Nancy Pelosi, both of them, Nancy Pelosi and to the mayor of Washington. And they turned it down flat. And the police commissioner was very nasty about it to her. And he testified. And here’s what happened. The January 6th un-Select Committee of thugs and horrible people, the un-Select Committee destroyed all the evidence.

Pelosi later responded to Trump’s comments about her during an interview with MSNBC, claiming that the former president was trying to “project” responsibility for the incident.

The interview concluded with Welker asking Trump if he still believes that democracy “is the most effective form of government.” He responded:

I do. I do. But it has to be a democracy that’s fair. This democracy is — I don’t consider us to have much of a democracy right now. They indict their political opponents. Free speech is shot, because the press is very dishonest, very dishonest. Even the way you fight me on simple questions like, you know, the border, and this. You fight me so much. And I say, “Why are you fighting me?” Do you know, when I first ran, the approval rating of the media was very high. And now it’s very low. It may be below Congress, which is pretty hard to believe. People understand what’s going on. We need a media that’s free and fair. And frankly, if they don’t have that, it’s very, very hard to straighten out our country.

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