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No More U.S. Taxpayer Funded Bailouts….for Greece

Last year, the Senate voted to give $108 billion of your tax dollars to the International Monetary Fund (IMF).  The IMF is now pledging to “loan” $39 billion as part of a $145 billion bailout package to Greece.  This is all happening as the Senate debates and amends the S.3217 the “Restoring American Financial Stability Act of 2010,” in an effort to protect the economy from a repeat of the economic meltdown of 2008.  As the President and Congress pledge to protect taxpayers from bailing out Wall Street firms, U.S. taxpayer monies are being used to bailout the terrible fiscal decisions of Greece. 

J.D Foster, a coworker of mine at The Heritage Foundation, authored a blog post titled “No US Taxpayer Dollars for Greek Bailouts” where he argues:

It was bad enough when the federal government bailed out AIG, and then Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, and then many of the mega banks, and then GM and Chrysler. At least these had the modest merit of being US companies with US workers. Even if US government finances were in pristine shape, US taxpayer dollars should not be used to bail out a perennially dysfunctional state. But as spending-driven trillion dollar budget deficits and a Presidential debt commission starkly evidence, the US is seriously risking its own Greek-style sovereign debt crisis. Fortunately, the US doesn’t need an IMF bailout. It only needs a President willing to acknowledge that he has led the country on a Grecian spending binge it cannot afford.

The case for loaning money to Greece is weak, because there is no reasonable expectation that they can right the ship and pay off this loan commitment.  How did they get there?  More from J.D. Foster 

Greece is in a financial death spiral brought on by years of amazingly irresponsible deficit spending and similar behaviors often found in socialist states to the detriment of their economies. Greece also abandoned its national currency in favor of the Euro, in hindsight at least a stunningly bad move which for the EU makes this a major financial crisis and an embarrassment of the first order. What makes these otherwise somewhat removed events of immediate concern to the United States is that the IMF intends to use US taxpayer dollars to try to stave off Grecian disaster.

At this moment, riot police are deployed in Athens, Greece to put down an insurrection that has caused a massive loss of weath on Wall Street.  According to CNBC, the DOW plunged more than 900 points:

The Dow plunged Thursday amid buzz in the market that European banks have halted lending.  One trader, on the condition of anonymity, said he heard fixed income desks in Europe shut down early because there was no liquidity — basically European banks are halting lending right now.” This is similar to what took place pre-Lehman Brothers,” the trader said.  The Dow was down more than 900 points at one point, or more than 8 percent, before pulling back to the 600-700 point range.

The United States has it’s own problems with high unemployment and slow economic growth.  Americans were upset about bailing out American business decisions that turned out risky, yet when they will become even more enraged when they understand that they, the taxpayers, are loaning billions to a foreign government that made terrible fiscal decisions. 

At least 64 Senators are kicking themselves today for voting last year against a DeMint Amendment that would have blocked $108 billion in emergency monies to the IMF.  Now that money is being used as part of the Greece bailout package.

The Heritage Foundation just published another piece by Sally McNamara and J.D. Foster titled, “5 Reasons Not to Support a Bailout of Greece.” 

No sooner had news of Greece’s bailout been announced that rumors began that Spain may be seeking up to €280 billion in aid.  Spotting an electoral opportunity, the leader of Germany’s main opposition party, Frank-Walter Steinmeier, has so far refused to pledge parliamentary support for the bailout package. He is correct that this is unlikely to be the last transfer of taxpayers’ money from Germany to Club Med.  It is also extremely unlikely that Greece has the political capacity to take forward the reforms to which it has committed in exchange for the rescue package. The sooner the Eurozone faces up to the financial costs of the single European currency, the better.

Is Spain next in line for an IMF Bailout partially funded by you, the American taxpayer?

COMMENTS

  • http://www.veronicaestrada.com/ Veronica Estrada

    Brian,

    Please tell your collegues at Heritage to pull up a comprehenive list of everything we’re spending and everything the Left wants to spend on other economies.

    Include Haiti, the UN Peacekeeping and budget, the Copenhagen Accord, and the $100 million the Obama Administration wants to spend via the International Atomic Energy Agency as part of “persuading” rogue nations to play nice regarding the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty.

    Domestic stimulus and spending is not the half of it.

    The American public has a right to see a TOTAL NUMBER of what they’re spending to prop up other countries — broken down into “allies,” “failed states,” “rogue nations” and other categories.

    This $50 milllion here, $100 million there bit is growing tiresome.

    Jennifer and John Smith who are working their butts off need to know where their taxpayer money is going, and it needs to be told, loud and clear.

    What’s spent as part of foreign policy sometimes escapes them, especially because the press doesn’t talk about it.

    Public outrage over the outrageous total sum may help reign these leftists in.

    • Brian Darling

      I have heartburn over bailing out Wall Street firms, yet a better case can be made to bailout American business than to bailout a foreign government. Nobody is going to bailout the USA if we ever hit the tipping point. People will be in the streets of Athens cheering if we ever had a similar meldtown and they would loan us $0.

      • http://www.veronicaestrada.com/ Veronica Estrada

        Of course, it’s already been established Athens will be us.

        People talk about the US exploiting the resources of other countries and these are merely reparations.

        What about the resource of American labor ?? The sweat and toil of the taxpayer??

        Is it fair that these other economies tap into us as a *redistributive means* to bail them out?

        And these are corrupt nations! Of course there will be no end to tapping into American cash for bailouts.

        Global economy and all, no we don’t want to be protectionists, but a total sum of foreign bailout needs to be part of the American taxpayer’s lexicon.

        We need to move beyond the $787 bailout. Let’s move beyond the $10 trillion dollar debt. Let’s push this guy into the 20s and 30s over the next decade to show the American public of the true insanity.

        Brain, and that’s just for this year.

        Can you imagine what other entitlement programs and debt are going to be pilled on for the next 2+ years while this guy is still in office?

        I can’t imagine.

        Thanks so much.

    • Scope

      the Marxists would say it was a conspiracy theory, nothing to see here folks, move along. And, unfortunately too many would believe them. Shoot, the info Beck produced last week on the CCX couldn’t even get a mention on page 19 of any newspaper.

      • http://www.veronicaestrada.com/ Veronica Estrada

        And what’s with this “typed in b, instead of m, for million” error?

        Conspiracy theories have died, Scope, because the left has already labeled us ALL crazy racists.

        Similar to what they’re assuming to do with the drawings on may 20th — drown the pool.

        Knowledge, knowledge, knowledge.

        Obama knows the public is keen on “socialist,” which is why he dedicated the entire speech Saturday to kill “blogosphere opinion” this past weekend.

        Is this why they’re pushing through Wall Street reform?

        Is this why they’re pushing Net Neutrality?

        They’re anticipating a heavy fall out in November and the time to do what they want to do is now.

        And the way to get us to move out of the way is to label us — racist, crazies.. oh, and political terrorists, like they’ve done with the RGA.

        They are pulling out all the stops to discredit us.

        American people who don’t “know” sense this, and Obama knows they sense it, which is why he’s still talking about “words, it’s only words..let’s be nice.”

        • Scope

          Chicago Climate Exchange. If you didn’t see Beck’s presentation of it, try to see it. The exchange is the vehicle to exchange carbon credits for $. It began with the Joyce Foundation, I think back around 2004. Obama was very much involved along with several Goldman Sachs people, and some others that are equally as dangerous and communist. Someone did a diary on it here a week or so ago. It was registered in the Isle of Man, and has recently been sold to someone in the UK, I think. Cap and tax is the final step in it’s implementation. No one else covered the story, because Beck is just a crazy man they claim.

          • http://www.veronicaestrada.com/ Veronica Estrada

            gotta source?

            (oh, THAT)

            It says so on their own website:

            “Welcome to CCX: We are a financial institution whose objectives are to apply financial innovation and incentives to advance social, environmental and economic goals through the following platforms.”

            Social justice Social justice Social justice = wealth distribution wealth distribution wealth distribution.

            Maybe we need to keep the message simple.

            You realize these “they’re f***ing crazy!!” messages are meant for the “common folk” who don’t know and may align with us (the big, bad enemy) if they knew what the hell was going on.

            Someone called in on a radio show and the radio host asked, “do you work?”

            them: no, I’m on welfare

            host: who do you think gives you your welfare?

            them: I don’t know. Obama pays for it.

            The Dependents need to be woken up as well.

            Maybe they need to get religion. Like, Americanism over their welfare check.

            Instead of “you have XYZ Obscure Right of the Day!” it should be “find or create a job for yourself. discover self-sufficiency.”

            I mean .. is it bad to want to encourage people to work?

            Being a bum is what encourages obesity, after all ..

      • http://www.veronicaestrada.com/ Veronica Estrada

        if it were on a ticker tape on Times Square.

        The wealth and idealism of “opportunity” of two years ago is still fresh in the public’s mind.

        And the Obama Adminisration is relying on the conditioning of the unemployed.

        It’s part of his “Behavioral Economics.”.

        He thinks we’ll get used to being broke and poor and unemployed, like we’re supposed to get used to rationed care, a greenie lifestyle and less salt.

        No way, me bucko.

        We like our booze, money, food and sex. It’s ingrained into the American fabric and our jeans.

        The Fourth of July epitomizes this, if you’re lucky. ;)

        • http://www.veronicaestrada.com/ Veronica Estrada
  • Scope

    is not guaranteed to vote in favor of the bailout tomorrow (Friday). Their portion of the bailout is the largest. The up coming German elections will play heavily into their decision tomorrow. I wouldn’t be surprised to see Germany backing out of the European Union, and going back to their own currency. They are a much more frugal people than those they are currently joined with.

  • Brian Darling

    “A Bad Trade for Proctor and Gamble” caused a meltdown today. The acceleration was “programmed trades.” Market still down 301 pts right now. The Greece problem may have exacerbated the 900 point meltdown today after the glitch.

  • crassus

    The people in Greece, especially the public sector employees, are acting like savages. It is absolutley disgusting. They are murdering people and rioting. Not a penny for Greece! This needs to be a litmus test- no more foreign aid, it is more unconstitutional than the individual mandate for Health Care. And that means that we are out of the IMF. Taxpayers have been swindled for hundreds of billions of dollars because of that filthy bureaucracy.

    • Scope

      that those on the government dole here would act the same way if they were told they were going to have to take a cut. Savages are not only Greek, but their common theme is that they are mostly all government unionistas.

    • http://www.veronicaestrada.com/ Veronica Estrada

      And I can’t see the anarchy.

      I’m wishing now we had cable.

      Horrific.

  • Common_Cents

    It’s easier to enable the problem to avoid a larger confrontation, just prolonging the problem and making it even worse later on.

    Like the Midas muffler commercial, pay up now, or pay up later.

  • captainsensible

    The DeMint amendment would have blocked the $108 billion appropriation to the IMF. But I think we knew what you mean. Otherwise, great post.

    Jim DeMint is my hero.

    • Brian Darling

      Thanks to Captainsensible for catching my error. I just fixed it.

  • crassus

    Why can’t we get anyone better from Alaska- it’s one of the more conservative states. She is a huge porker and is taking over from her corrupt daddy.

  • Hugh

    like a ponzi scheme. The ones that get bailed out early will be better off than the latter ones when there is no money left to fund the bailouts. This will likely happen if we continue down this road. The only way to fix the problems of Greece and others including the US is to reverse the process that was used to get things in this condition. More borrowing and debt is not and will never be the answer. I don’t know why that is so hard to grasp.

  • captainsensible

    They’re victims, after all — they’ve unwittingly and involuntarily become hopelessly addicted to OPM [Other People's Money] by the drug dealer known as the welfare state. [/sarcasm]

    “G*d d*mn the pusher man.” — John Kay, Steppenwolf

  • cactusjack

    Just some musings here.
    1. Partly they’re hitting the streets in Athens because of that’s the result of decades of quasi- socialist anarchy, but believe me the other part is they are mad their leaders are selling them out to the EU (read: German bankers). They are not entirely wrong in that sentiment. But Deutsche Bank is probably their only realistic alternative.
    2. I can think, however, of two other things that will focus their attention:
    a) if you don’t get your act together we’re going to let the Turks super ise your recovery. They have been troublesome allies to the US the last 10 years, but over the last 50 way, way better allies than “western” Greece; b) send in King Constantine II and his family to reestablish the monarchy, which voluntarily left in 1967 as a result of the Colonels’ coup. I only partly jest on either of these but admit they are way, way longshots. But make no mistake, out of this anarchy there is the danger the first 21st century Communist state restoration may be effected in a very geo strategic location. That is sobering truth.

  • Adjoran

    and I am not about to argue Greece is worth the risk, but in order to get the money they will HAVE to do the things required to stop the bleeding – spending cuts and tax increases. The riots are over minor cuts now, so the odds are they won’t qualify for the loan.

    That said, the IMF is basically our baby, and if a big mistake is made by them it is probably because our government hasn’t been paying enough attention to the crisis and suggested anything better. Remember, our country is being run by a cabal of unreformed radicals, burnt-out hippy academics, Chicago machine apparatchiks, and amateurs.

    But IMF is necessary, because when national governments begin to default, it’s like a bomb going off four rows back in the movie theater. Sure, it’s not under our seat, but that hardly means we won’t die in the explosion.

    The Dow meltdown was caused by a spooked investor class reacting to an errant trade, but they’ve engaged in wishful thinking on Greece, Portugal, Spain, Ireland, and Italy long enough. There’s big trouble brewing, probably bigger than IMF and all extra efforts will be able to stop. This is precisely the sort of situation where “naked” shorting helps the market right itself.

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