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Turning up the rhetoric to 11

Well, it's one louder, isn't it? It's not ten.

Following the tragedy in Tucson, the leftist media has been pushing the meme that “toxic rhetoric” in politics needs to be toned down.  I (dis)respectfully disagree.  Conservatives will not be silenced by radicals who would love nothing more than for opposition to be muzzled to allow the Left to continue their march to socialism, unabated and uninterrupted.

During my morning pass through Twitter, I caught two key pieces on this topic from the American Spectator.  In “Defending Toxic Rhetoric“, Justin Paulette catches the point:

Those insisting that right-wing rhetoric is to blame for this, or future, atrocities have two goals: to generally disparage conservatives and to silence political opposition to liberal policies. The former is the typical politicking customary to baser characters in every party. The second, however, bears on a fundamental aspect of American democracy: free speech.

Now those who disagree will predictably and amusingly trot out the tired “yelling ‘fire’ in a crowded theater” argument to oppose the free speech point.  Paulette hits this type of objection head on:

Certainly, speech has boundaries. The first boundary is legal. Words inciting violence or panic are excepted from First Amendment protections. But assertions that conservatives have engaged in such solicitations are absurd — as evidenced by the dearth of examples accompanying accusations by Krugman et al. Even Democrat Paul Kanjorski’s recent public suggestion that we stand the Republican candidate for Governor of Florida “against a wall and shoot him” doesn’t reach the level of criminality. Again, Republicans have never uttered such invectives.

The second boundary is political. Political parties bear some responsibility to enforce rhetorical limits internally. For example, Democrats might have condemned any of the hundreds of liberal protestors holding various “Kill/Shoot/Hang Bush” posters at leftist demonstration across the country for eight years. Republicans have never had occasion to reprimand conservatives for such consistent depths of depravity.

If there was truly a need to “enforce rhetorical limits”, believe me – it would have been done.  Conservatives have been consistently more self-aware about such things than the Left, despite ludicrous claims and implications that folks like Cornell Belcher and Greg Sargent have been pushing, implying that the Right obviously uses more inflammatory rhetoric than the Left.  After the shootings, the immediate response from the Right was to pray for the victims.  The immediate response from prominent Leftists was to blame the Right, in particular, Sarah Palin.  They saw a golden opportunity to take the heat off of their policies and push the GOP’s plans to roll back the damage Obama has done. (And when Palin had the audacity to defend herself, they doubled down and accused her of overreacting – she should have just stood by and taken it)

One thing you did not – and will not –  hear from the Right is a call to silence the Left, despite the repulsive actions of Moulitsas, et. al.  We do not need governmental intervention.  What we DO need, and what we WILL do, is to defeat the Left, and to do that we must dial UP the rhetoric.

There is too much at stake right now for the Right to cower in the corner, fearful that we’ll be accused of being big meanies.  There is no room for the weak.  The GOP won the House in 2010 and almost pulled even in the Senate.  The target for 2012 is complete, utter domination of both sides of the Hill and a takeover of the White House (and yes, I used the word “target” and will continue to do so).  Immediately in our cross-hairs is Obamacare.  It must be killed… It must die.  It must disappear from the planet, to be replaced by free-market, conservative solutions.

In another AmSpec piece, David Catron makes a similar point to that of Paulette:

No one should have been surprised by the spectacle of Democrat officials braying on television about “people in the radio business” or wondering in print if the crime was inspired by “a conservative politician publishing a map with a bullseye.” Moreover, the goal of this cynical behavior is all too obvious. Having lost much of the legitimate power they wielded before November 2, the Democrats hope to use this tragedy as a means of gaining psychological sway over the GOP and using that ascendancy to cow the new House majority into compromising on its agenda.

Unsurprisingly, the immediate target of the Democrats is the effort to repeal Obamacare:

Barely 24 hours after Jared Loughner’s bloody rampage, Democrat Rep. Chellie Pingree (D-ME) used the shooting as a pretext for demanding that House Republicans change the title of their ObamaCare repeal bill. Invoking the name of wounded congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords in an article for the Huffington Post, Pingree allowed that she has no idea what motivated Loughner: “We don’t know if was politics — aimed at Gabby’s courageous stands on health care and immigration.” Yet somehow she knows what will prevent such atrocities in the future: “What really matters is that we do everything we can to prevent it from happening again. And the first thing we can do is to crank down the rhetoric a few notches.”

Shocked?  I thought not.  In the wake of the shooting, the agenda of the Dems is obvious – they are counting on GOP leadership to knuckle under for fear of public outcry to “soften the tone”.  Catron states:

None of this is really about the name of the repeal bill or the dangers of “vitriolic rhetoric,” of course. It’s all about finding some way — any way — to take some steam out of the repeal effort. The Democrats desperately want to preserve ObamaCare, and they hope a “more civil dialogue” will slow down Republican momentum on the health care issue. For confirmation of that reality, consider the words of the New Republic‘s Jonathan Cohn: “I genuinely hope Republicans do alter their rhetoric … if they do change, I suspect they’ll find their cause loses at least a little bit of its urgency and maybe quite a lot.” Will the GOP fall for it? Their history is not encouraging, and John Boehner’s office has been making some disturbingly gullible noises: “House Speaker John Boehner’s spokesman said yesterday the Ohio Republican’s priority is to keep the discourse steady and civil.”

“Disturbingly gullible” is exactly right.  Now is NOT the time to dial it down.  It is time to turn it UP.  Public opinion is decidedly against Obamacare, and we must strike now.  Do not back down.  Turn it up to 11.  Raise the volume.  Use every opportunity to continue to remind the American people why they kicked the Left out of the House and (almost) the Senate.  This is NOT the time to lose a sense of urgency.  We must take down the Leftists, and the place to do it is on the floor of the House and Senate and in the ballot box at each and every election between now and November, 2012.  We cannot succumb to Democrat tactics:

The Republicans will certainly be less aggressive in their rhetoric. The Democrats will, in turn, see this as weakness and attempt to exploit the gesture, just as they have exploited Tucson. They will brand as “vitriolic” every floor speech in favor of repeal and repeatedly demand that the GOP water down its agenda.

No.  Speaker Boehner must stand his ground, gag the Democrats and prevent this from happening.  Now is the time to speak out loud and long against the Democrats and their anti-American, anti-capitalist, anti-freedom agenda.  Turn it up.  All the way up.  Don’t get violent, get vocal. Raise your voice to drown out the Left and fight them. Figuratively.

To conclude and further ratchet up the rhetoric, I present you with a modernized message borrowed from Winston Churchill:

The Left knows that they will have to break us in this effort or lose the war. If we can stand up to them, all Americans may be free and life of the world may move forward into broad, sunlit uplands. But if we fall, then the whole world, … including all that we have known and cared for, will sink into the abyss of a new Dark Age made more sinister, and perhaps more protracted, by the lights of perverted science.

Let us therefore brace ourselves to our duties, and so bear ourselves that, if a conservative America lasts for a thousand years, men will still say, “This was their finest hour!”

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COMMENTS

  • macbookben

    they’re reaching out and playing nice by suggesting that dems and repubs shuffle the seating arrangements for the upcoming state of the union speech. instead of staying on their respective sides. With the democrat minority interspersed within full chamber, the TV audience’s view will look as if most everyone is cheering during Obama’s speech. I think it is a ploy by democrats to effectively attenuate the anticipated applause by republicans who will cheer Obama on those rare moments he says something they largely agree with, while the democrats sit on their hands or whatever. I would say stick to tradition, keep’em separated, let the audience see what our majority looks and sounds like. We’re home, THEY’RE visitor.

    BTW, is that photo a clip from “This is Spinal Tap”? One of my all time favorite flicks.

  • johnt

    Give it a couple of weeks and the left will move on to other types of filth. The very people who enabled this disgrace, the media, will gradually change focus, that happens when you have the brains of a chicken. Even, or especially, the crap about Obama’s moment or opportunity will fade, sorry Charles Krauthhammer.
    The reaction of the left serves to open a few more eyes as to the disease that is leftism, crazed in their powerlust, absent any principles, willing to jettison any belief,[free speech] and now, again but more so, exposing their inner totalitarian.
    Thanks Netroots, special hat tip to Kos, thanks NY Times, you look good in the slime you covered yourself in, thanks, but you can’t backpedal from this one.

  • carolina

    should be used carefully, imo.
    I, for one, think Boehner has earned respect by his ‘grown-up’ approach to-date. I really think the dems and lib ‘journalists’ have hurt their credibility with their recent shooting reaction. Krugman may have done us a favor.
    Talk radio will keep on keeping on. The elected representatives can be emphatic without sounding ‘over the top’.
    PS – I was happy to see that Rand Paul has started a Senate TEA party caucus per RollCall.com (with DeMint and Lee).

  • carolina

    should be used carefully, imo.
    I, for one, think Boehner has earned respect by his ‘grown-up’ approach to-date. I really think the dems and lib ‘journalists’ have hurt their credibility with their recent shooting reaction. Krugman may have done us a favor.
    Talk radio will keep on keeping on. The elected representatives can be emphatic without sounding ‘over the top’.
    PS – I was happy to see that Rand Paul has started a Senate TEA party caucus per RollCall.com (with DeMint and Lee).

  • carolina

    at speakerboehner@mail.house.gov and give him your thoughts. I did.

  • carolina

    at speakerboehner@mail.house.gov and give him your thoughts. I did.

  • conservativecurmudgeon

    The template is there already anyhow; Without regard to what the actual facts may be in some liberal version of the future, the Right is ALREADY to blame for whatever bogeymen the Left wants to create. So, why bow to their version of “civility”? They’ve already boxed in Conservatives to the point where merely BEING conservative is uncivil. So, to heck with ‘em.

    Make THEM define their assertions, make THEM defend the truncation of liberty. Go on the political assault. NOW!

    We need to say things like: “The Arizona shooting proves the absolute necessity to repeal and destroy all vestiges of Obamacare, and to keep at our attempts to repeal and destroy it until every scintilla is gone: The Arizona shooting proves we have a magnificent health-care system, readily available, for all those that need it: From high-powered members of Congress, to average citizens. Our health-care is second to none, and we will not be a party to destroying it.

    Mr. Boehnor, Mr. Cantor, Mr. Camp, and every other Republican House member should be saying in a loud, unequivocal voice:

    “The statist takeover of one of man’s most private and intimate transactions, –between him and his doctor– cannot, and will not stand, ever. As a party, the Republicans will have a single-minded zeal to tear out Obamacare, root, branch, and leaf, until it is utterly, utterly destroyed. Make absolutely no mistake: As Republicanism freed the slaves from statist tyranny, so will Republicanism free Americans to forever be in charge of their, and their family’s, health choices. It may take generations, but we WILL NOT REST until every American has the freedoms, especially regarding health decisions, guaranteed them in their Constitution”

    Now’s the time to turn up the volume. Without reservation, without apology, without rancor. Now, now, NOW!

  • http://charlemagne-the-hammer.blogspot.com/ DerKrieger

    You?ve spent nearly a week now foaming at the mouth about heated political rhetoric supposedly coming from the Right and driving a crazy man to violence. You seek to blame this attack on us to your advantage. And in your desperation to recover lost ground among the electorate I can understand the attempt. What you can?t or won?t understand is that the violence you are doing to our Constitutional republic is what is ratcheting up the anger among conservatives that may, unfortunately, result in real political violence. In a nation of over 300 million people there are bound to be people who act on their anger. Although I believe we conservatives will ultimately prevail at the ballot box as long as your party is dominated by socialists far removed from traditional democrats like JFK, I think that your continuing and even stepped up efforts to impose on an unwilling populace your socialist, big government policies will cause increased unrest and really hot political rhetoric. It is your unyielding drive to enslave We the People to your vision of Utopia that is causing most of the discord in our country. If you really want to tone down the rhetoric then the method is clear; stop. Stop forcing us into big government programs we tell you we don?t want, stop taking our earnings from us to give to others, stop regulating our employers to the point they lay us off and/or depart for more friendly nations, stop trying to tell us how to live our lives, stop lecturing us, stop claiming that every one of life?s problems has a government solution, stop telling us that socialism will work if only the ?right? people are allowed to give it a try, stop limiting our access to our own energy resources, stop telling us that our middle-class lifestyles are destroying the planet, stop it all, just?stop and leave us alone. Then and only then will the nation?s political temperature cool.

  • steve010

    and Bill Press members of the SDS? Bill Press might have been too old for membership, but I would like for him to expain his views during that period of time.

    One of the most famous members of the SDS was Hillary Clinton. Also Bernadette Dohrn and Bill Ayers. If you want to read and study some hate-filled vitriolic speech meant specifically to incite violence against government and “war like response”, read some of this stuff. All left wing. The Weathermen, the Revolutionary Youth Movement, the Black Panthers. Maybe Matthews and Press have conveniently forgotten all this stuff.

  • kowalski

    And I know, because I did it once. I raise my voice all the time but the point of raising your voice (which nobody can hear on line) is to avoid having to use coarser words.

    There’s nobody more persuasive in the world than someone who can raise their voice without losing the power of their vocubaluary and their ideas in the process. Redstate was a pioneer in this, and the founders of this blog enforced the rules against profanity against a sea of abusive and profane insults and trolling for a very important reason:

    This was and remains a forum for debate, not invective. There’s a fine line between the two, at times, where the importance of an idea needs to be underscored.

    I agree with “turning it up.” I just don’t agree with dragging it into the sewer at the same time.

    As a longstanding member of Redstate (and former Leftist) I once argued that profanity should be allowed here. I was sick and tired of fighting the profane with what I thought was “one hand tied behind my back.” And I was unceremoniously slapped down the one time I used a very profane term in an open forum — even though the recipient might have richly deserved it. It was wrong for me to post it and I apologized in person to the Directors. I got it. It was a matter of controlling the tone on this website, and it was unquestionably their prerogative to do so. I learned the lesson.

    We don’t hear calls from the Right to silence the Left because, in the end, the Left makes their own case worse through the rhetoric and tactics they employ. In the end, we don’t need to use the kind of language the Left reflexively uses.

  • kowalski

    And what the Kowalski really amounts to is the second thought, the follow-up that your brain tells itself after you’ve reread your own comment (without the ability to delete or edit it). It’s a form of ex-post-facto editorial commentary, and I’m proud that Redstate named it after me.

    I encourage people to think twice, and even three times because I try to see any issue from a lot of perspectives, not just my own. It’s an adapation to the online world, where we very often don’t get the chance to revise and polish our own thoughts once we hit “post”.

    A lot of the time, there’s something you forgot to mention. Almost as often, there’s some part of your original post that starts an asynchronous thought process that doesn’t really conclude by the time you hit “post.” And in other cases, you write something persuasive and then later, some other important point emerges that requires a little elaboration. So “the Kowalski” is a nod to the human thought process as it really occurs here in the digital world, not just a way to artificially inflate one’s aggregate total of posts.

    I know the ten or twenty most persuasive and best argued posts on Redstate that I’ve ever read. Occasionally I recommend another and it competes for a place in my internal ranking of What Was Well Said. I give those accolades out very rarely, because while raising your voice is terrific, it’s important not to let the noise eclipse the signal when you do.

    Amplification is not a straightforward thing, as anyone who designs amplifiers can tell you. In the end, if you want loudness, you also have to make sure you’re discarding the noise while preserving and boosting the signal, and that isn’t easy. Human beings are not digital: they’re analog. :)

  • kowalski

    Louder AND better. :)

  • Bill S

    that I’m aware of those rules. And I agree about the profanity. Not promoting that at all. I am promoting the idea of continuing on current course of shooting down every radical left policy that comes out of the WH or Harry Reid. There is no reason to dignify their proposals with any kind of seriousness. They deserve ridicule and disdain, and we should do it as loudly and boldly as possible. We will not be doormats for the Left to wipe their feet.

  • Scope

    is to make sure Boehner and Cantor et al don’t either.

    Just in the last two months, Francis Fox Piven, the architect of the current administration’s march to communism, called for “violence.” She talked about breaking windows and going against your employers and the government. Only those on the right in Government of course. She said we need to be like Greece and Spain. The old bat is still teaching at New York University. How much you want to make a bet the student riots will start there?

  • fpete13527
  • sta46

    how kenneth gladney feels about the alleged “violence” of right wing rhetoric?

  • kowalski

    I’ve been a doormat once in my life and all you get from that is wiped on. And I really do encourage people to speak out more about their views – not just on line, but in person. It’s even more important in person.

    Conservatives and a lot of Republicans are…..Conservative. They don’t want to raise their voices or stand up for what they really believe in because internally they have a kind of inhibition. They put up with a lot more than most people do. The truth is that Conservatives are not like Liberals. Liberals are whiners, they’re people who walk around like every nerve ending their body is exposed to the air, and they never stop yelling and screaming about each one.

    It works, because they know that the squeaky wheels get the grease. Conservatives have just begun to find their voice in this country and I don’t want to stop them at all. The country needs them to talk, and a lot more often, and a lot more volume. But at the same time I don’t go for the emotional low-hanging fruit: that’s why I’ve thought Boehner’s tendency to tear up is gratuitous and embarrassing.

    Don’t cry. Talk. Write. Think. Express your opinions. Be active. Encourage others to be active. Don’t sit there and hiss at the news that comes to you on the screen, be active and vocal. You’re not going to change the world in a minute, but the world will change because of your involvement.

  • sharonmcp

    leaves me feeling like I’ve spent a week in the sewer and wondering if I’ll ever get the stench off.

  • redneck_hippie

    That (R) after my name stands for ridicule. It’s what’s for dinner.

  • fpete13527

    I’m working on getting better at this although painful for the reasons you say.

    Case in point when I see this http://bit.ly/hs0hnZ from this old bag, all I want to do is write a page of expletives.,,,but that is what they want.

  • audax
  • fpete13527

    Watching Piven’s latest video tests all of the principles this post is pointing to. Piven is a disgrace to humanity that goes past most extended levels of disgraces to humanity.
    http://bit.ly/hs0hnZ

    I think one of the things that we need to keep doing is to make it louder and clearer that the left is 100% about what Piven preaches…full blown Communism [hidden of course]].

    The general public was STARTING to get this so the left went into full gear with the fraudulently incited “can’t we get along [and silence/censor] and [not]thrive” in order to covertly cover teh fact that our entire agenda is Socialism/Communism

  • Menlo

    It’s not a matter of profanity or shouting in the context with which most people are speaking right now.

    What the left seems to be calling for, and what I will not do, is not to attribute to them ill motives, intentions, ethics, morals, or integrity. There are times when no phrase irritates me more than something along the lines of, “good people can disagree.”

    Unfortunately, Republicans, especially in the senate, tend to do just the opposite. Even Jim Demint believed the Democrats to have good intentions with Obamacare.

  • msctex

    Just right. The Truth has an austere, transcendent quality which is recognizable to anyone remotely aware of whatever topic is being discussed. Children will pick up on it every time, much more so than adults who wish to believe the palpably not so. Simple reason and concise responses to bluster will undo noisy gibberish, as we need not get angry. This is the priceless advantage of having facts on one’s side: the right to look with sad wonder at someone claiming 2+2=5. Reason presented in a reasonable tone of voice.

    Our goal needs to be having intelligent people in position to offer up Reality, whenever a Leftist manages to achieve a pulpit which might do real damage. Picking our battles thus becomes paramount. We can easily afford to concede the asylums, like MSNBC. Our voice must be heard where and when it matters.

  • Scope

    she’s been at this for a long time, with the Cloward dude. As so many have warned, such as Beck, the more we discover and know what the real plans are, the quicker they must move in order to accomplish their goals, or so they think. With Obama they have come farther than ever before, and, they will not allow anyone to stop them. I really do believe that there will be violence, but, it won’t be coming from our side. We all will suffer because of it though.

    It is at critical level that we don’t allow the newly elected to join with the long time compromisers in DC. It’s our last chance. We need critical thinkers on our side that understand what the Liberals are going to do next, not to react to what they have already put in place and are pushing forward. Everyone on our side should be required to read everything Cloward and Piven have ever written along with Saul Alinsky. You could add Ayers and Dorn to that list also.

  • bobmontgomery

    ….and teaching the world to sing. Dial it back, just dial it back and hum softly with us “Kumbayah”. Here put on this t-shirt, won’t you, as a gesture of living together, as one? Here, come sit with us as we sit in respectful adoration and anti-opposition political party togetherness.

  • edwyrd

    lovely name, great advice

  • CJB68

       The minute you on the Left start actively pursuing those radicals and anarchists calling for a bullet in the heads of Sarah Palin, George W Bush, Donald Rumsfeld, (name your conservative right-of-center personality here) etc, that will be the minute that I believe you’re turning a new page.  Even then, I’m standing on the principles.  You didn’t see me running amok in the streets, tossing bricks through car windows and stomping on the face of a passer-by when something didn’t go my way.

  • http://www.buckforcolorado.com bjwilson83

    “The target for 2012 is complete, utter domination of both sides of the Hill and a takeover of the White House (and yes, I used the word ?target? and will continue to do so). Immediately in our cross-hairs is Obamacare. It must be killed? It must die.”

    Compared to what Dems have said about Bush, etc., this is mild in comparison. I totally agree with your premise – the Dems want to use this to shut down the right, even if not actual bills are passed. They want to make us afraid to speak out against their job-killing policies. We should not oblige.

  • Return to Revolution

    so people don’t have to turn to violence. If you want blood and violence, abolish all debate on fundamental principles. I’d call it an unintended consequences of democrats idiotic games but that would fit all too well in their ability to exert ever more force on society.

  • bobmontgomery

    Besides McCain, now comes Kevin McCarthy, R-CA, saying he would be glad to sit with them; thinks it would be a ‘positive thing’ He would probably put on a t- shirt with a collectivist slogan if they asked him nicely. Waiting for the Democrats to now beckon the Supreme Court Justices to come sit with them in a spirit of submis-, er, unity.

  • aesthete

    Frankly, you’re not going to gain anyone in the fence or other converts by telling them that they are evil and that they want America to become a dictatorship, etc. If they know their own hearts better than you (and they do), then they know whether such statements are true or not. If they are not true for a specific person (as it applies to the rank-and-file, they’re generally not), then said person will not want to pay much attention to the people willing to impute malevolent motivations onto them. If they are true for a given person (as is the case with most of the leadership and media personalities on the left), that person is already unpersuadabe, and you have just given him the opportunity to play the victim. While I don’t want to curb anyone’s use of free speech (uncivil political and religious speech being the cornerstone of free societies), and while I wish those on our side concentrating on the motives of political personalities the best of luck, IMO, such speech is both unpersuasive and implicitly buys into the progressive lie that, if we just get better people into office, all will be well.

  • aesthete
  • aesthete

    There is nothing wrong with the aggrieved party being, well, aggrieved! The left on this issue can pretend to civility, rationality, etc precisely because they are the offending party in this situation. It’s the equivalent of soft racists in the Jim Crow South calling black complaints into question by invoking the “angry black” stereotype. There should be some discussion within the Republican party regarding what type of rhetoric is most effective at winning over converts, but that is a different matter altogether from the legitimacy of such speech and complaints. Of course, I’m just a Violent Right Winger fomenting a Culture of Hate, so what do I know?

  • 1stRichard

    There is no end, as soon as you think this is an all time low you will see another act of rhetoric that defies logic. Being in the Tea Party, in W/Mass, Liberal La-La Land of the Happy Valley I am continually astounded by the insanity, like the time I was labeled a racist because I use black ink, and because I did not use the colors of the rainbow in my letters I am also anti-gay. Simply standing on the side of the road around here with a sign Tea Party will send them in to convulsions as they drive by, yelling obscenities, the one finger salute, pounding on the steering wheel and especially amusing when they knock off their rear view mirror. I would not go as far as calling the lefts? response logical but more of some sort of uncontrollable ego defense mechanism. Yes, we must turn up the volume, as Alinsky said it infuriates the opposition, which then reacts to your advantage. However, we must not use ridicule, as the simple truth is all that is needed.

  • Menlo

    I have no intention of changing anyone’s mind in those cases. My belief would be that no one (or at least not enough people to matter) could be “on the fence” or persuadable.

  • constitutionalconservative

    We need to be even louder and more assertive (not shrill, but assertive) in defending our speech and our beliefs in response to this assault on them.

    Step one is shutting down this idiotic idea of “bipartisan” seating at the SOTU, a move that only reinforces the Dems idiotic “civility” meme and continues the slander against conservatives.

  • Next93

    n/t

  • http://www.theprecinctproject.wordpress.com ColdWarrior

    Hat tip to Cubachi:

    http://cubachi.com/2011/01/15/eric-fuller-who-blamed-palin-for-shootings-is-charged-with-making-threats-to-tea-party/

    From the KGUN TV web site report:

    Toward the end of the town hall meeting Saturday morning, one of the shooting victims, J. Eric Fuller, took exception to comments by two of the speakers: Ariz. state Rep. Terri Proud, a Dist. 26 Republican, and Tucson Tea Party spokesman Trent Humphries.

    According to sheriff’s deputies at the scene, Fuller took a photo of Humphries and said, “You’re Dead.”

    Deputies immediately escorted Fuller from the room.

    Pima County Sheriff’s spokesman Jason Ogan said later Saturday that Fuller has been charged with threats and intimidation and he also will be charged with disorderly conduct.

    Thank you.

    ColdWarrior

  • JadedByPolitics

  • Mary Beth
  • http://www.theprecinctproject.wordpress.com ColdWarrior

    http://gatewaypundit.rightnetwork.com/2011/01/breaking-tucson-tea-party-leader-threatened-during-abc-interview-audience-member-screams-trent-humphries-youre-dead/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed:+gatewaypundit2+%28Gateway+Pundit%29

    Breaking: Tucson Tea Party Leader Threatened At ABC Taping, Audience Member Screams: ?Trent Humphries You?re Dead!?

    State Representative Terri Proud was at the event sitting between Trent and the violent audience member. Terri was there to speak about the local gun laws. She described the scene to me just minutes ago:

    Trent Humphries, the Pima County tea party leader, stood up to speak during the event. He was being very respectful. Trent told the audience that before we start placing blame on individuals we need to get all the facts. Trent then told everyone that one of those killed during the shooting was his neighbor and that he was affected like everyone else by the tragedy? While Trent was speaking- And it was planned that he would speak- One member in the audience and reportedly one of the victims of the tragedy started screaming, ?Trent Humphries you?re dead!? The police immediately escorted him out. On his way out he screamed, ?You?re all whores.?

    The ABC producer said he was not sure if they will show incident tomorrow, or not.

    Trent was finished with his statement and sat down. Terri said she was concerned since she was sitting right between Trent and this violent leftist. Trent sat down and ABC continued with the taping. Two police officers jumped in immediately to remove the violent leftist.

    Trent Humphries has been receiving death threats all week since the national media and their leftist cohorts began blaming the tea party for the shooting by the leftwing pothead. Currently, government officials are checking his mail for him due to the threats.

    Please keep Trent and his young family and all the Tucson tea party members in your thoughts and prayers.

    UPDATE?.. The unhinged leftist J. Eric Fuller was charged with with threats and intimidation and he also will be charged with disorderly conduct.

    Thank you.

    ColdWarrior

  • carolina

    deputies were there.
    Wonder if anyone in the lamestream media will mention this, as Fox already did.
    Supposebly Fuller is being held for ‘evaluation’.

  • Bill S
  • earlgrey

    Let’s all turn up the heat. I am calling my Senators and Representative Tuesday. Of course I live in Marsha Blackburn’s district. She is pretty tough as it is. Sorry had to brag.

  • JadedByPolitics
  • Doc Holliday
  • edwyrd

    how long will it be before the liberal vultures lose their patience and get “aggressive”? that is either incite or “creat” the perfect slaughter to promote their diabolical agenda? read BODY OF SECRETS by james wambaugh. the nixon admin had a plan wherein there would be an actual attack on american soil, then they would assign the blame as seen fit. it is a well known political tactic. I.E. the nazis in sept 1939.

  • Next93

    Historically, it hasn’t been conservatives standing on the soapbox. We haven’t had to proselytize the principals of limited government, private property, and individual responsibility because in the past, those were things thatt went without saying.

    We’re now at a point where a lot of os feel that those principals need to be defended, and whatresponse do we get? First they try to ignore us, and when that didn’t work, theyi tried to paint us as a lunatic fringe. When our numbers continued to grow they tried calling us racists, then DANGEROUS racists. Now they’re calling us murderers because of the actions of a deranged leftist. Now they want to outlaw the “discussion”

    I’ll consider toning down the rhetoric when they stop acting like they’re tone *deaf*. I’ll believe the want a civil discourse when they stop trying to shut down all discourse and answer our legitimate concerns. Till then, they can have my free speech rights when they pry then from my cold, dead fingers.

    I’ll turn down the rhetoric when they stop calling us names, stop

  • carolina

    Fuller, who works as a signature collector for political initiatives, was about 10 to 15 feet away from Giffords, talking to her volunteers, when the shots erupted on Jan. 8. He said earlier this week he was hit by a bullet when he dove to the ground to play dead. He decided that because he didn’t have any medical training to help others, he walked to his car and drove himself to the nearest hospital

    Read more: http://www.azcentral.com/news/articles/2011/01/15/20110115gabrielle-giffords-arizona-shooting-tucson-forum.html#ixzz1B9wTpFlZ

  • Read Chesterton

    on someone else’s dime.

  • bassethound

    That the GOP will stand up and make STRONG, PRINCIPLED APOLOGETICS for their economic AND social issues. We must not be forced into standing for nothing so we “won’t offend” and “scare people off”. That is why we lost ground in 1996, and had to endure a second term of slick Willie. That is also why we had to accept a Milquetoast candidate like Dull Boring Bob Dull…er Dole.

  • glorybee

    is frustrating in so many ways. The key to winning in 2012 will be Ground Game, GOTV bottom up organization, etc. It is people like me – volunteers, precinct delegates, state convention delegates – who poll challenge, stuff envelopes, hold fundraisers whom the GOP needs to win. And we are driven crazy by the stupidity of sitting together at the SOTU. Do any of these guys have marketers on staff? Do any of them have an IQ above 60? Do any of have stones or undestand the power of the word “no”? I just want to say a pox on the GOP leadership and forget all about politics – I have a lot of activities I would rather be doing. It’s maddening.

  • earlgrey

    This Fuller thing has them completely unhinged. Has anyone else seen this on the lib blogs? We need to take note and call them out on it. I am not so insulted by what Fuller did as he is still going through an evaluation, but the lib apologists out there are just nuts. The double standard is stunning or nauseating depending on your perspective.

  • David123

    “No no no, not God Bless America, God D__n America”

  • bobmontgomery

    ….doing all that so your guys can rise in unison with the D’s and give the O standing ovations? Anything less would be disrespectful, don’t you know? Probably some kind of hate or something. See this is kind of like the gay marriage thing, et cetera. You don’t have to turn gay, you just have to accept it, and like give up anything you may have had in the past, and just be really, really nice. Can’t you just do that? Here, come put this nice t- shirt on, won’t you? Do you know how to sing ‘Kumbayah”? We’d like to teach you ! In fact, we’d like to teach the world…….