Normally, I don’t like to stray too far from the topic of today’s unions but, on Saturday, two horrific acts of evil took place in America that were both sad and infuriating:

The first, most heinous act, occurred when six people were slaughtered (including a federal judge and a nine-year old little girl born on 9/11/01) and multiple others that were gunned down in Tuscon, AZ.
The second atrocity occurred within minutes after the violence in Tucson, when the nation’s hardcore Leftists and mainstream media tried—and failed—to convince America that Emma Goldman killed President William McKinley. By the logic of the Left, Emma Goldman, whose vitriolic rhetoric against the government, her opposition to Christianity, and general anarchist preachings was, from hundreds of miles away, somehow responsible for the death of President McKinley as surely as if her hand was on the gun and her finger pulled the trigger.
Flashback – 1901:
While extending in friendly greeting his hand of fellowship, in the Temple of Music at the Pan-American Exposition, William McKinley, President of the United States, was shot down at the hands of either an Anarchist or a lunatic, a few minutes after 4 o’clock yesterday afternoon.
[snip]
The assassin, in a confession made to the District Attorney, court officials and the police at midnight, said that his name was Leon Czolgosz, that he was 28 years old, a blacksmith, and that he had come to Buffalo from from his home in Cleveland three days ago with the express intention of assassinating the President. He said he had been a student of Emma Goldberg, the Anarchist, had approved her doctrines and did not believe in this form of government. He described with accuracy and with seeming pride the preparations he had made to kill the President, how he had practiced in folding the handkerchief about his hand so as to conceal the revolver, and described how he had shot the President.
Despite the fact that Leon Czolgosz—and not Emma Goldman—assassinated President McKinley, by the Left’s logic on Saturday, it was as Emma Goldman, through her anarchist preaching that killed President McKinley. According to the Left’s logic, martial law should have been declared and Emma Goldman (and all anarchists) should have been rounded up*.
In other words, claims were made on Saturday, within minutes and before the facts had even been established, that the evil that occurred in Tuscon was directly associated with “right-wing rhetoric.” Sarah Palin, Glenn Beck, Rush Limbaugh and the whole Tea Party movement were all responsible for the actions of the gunman in Arizona.
As Erick Erickson pointed out, ”the tea party movement won in November. Winners don’t go on shooting sprees.” The Left’s attack on Saturday, however, was not an impromptu misguided attempt to assign blame, it was nothing more and nothing less than an Alinsky-style lynching of the Right. The ends justify the means—even if those means are based on a lie. The fact that the ‘guilt by association’ argument (a well-used propaganda technique) may have even been planned or coordinated, as the facts became more clear, the Left’s rush to judgment was not only evil, it was also flat-out wrong. Facts do not matter to the Left if it fits their narrative.
On Saturday, within minutes of the reports that Congresswoman Giffords had been shot in the head at point blank range, because she is a Democrat who was on Sarah Palin’s 2010 “Target List” for the mid-term elections, much of the Left on social media began accusing Sarah Palin and Tea Party activists of being responsible for the shooting. The Pima County Sheriff jumped into the blame game. Markos Moulitsas, founder of the far-left Daily Kos, who had (himself) listed Congresswoman Giffords on his own “Target List” for the Democratic primaries was tweeting for hours on the topic.
The use of Sarah Palin’s target list is made even more hypocritical in view of the DLC’s use of targets on their own “target list” [via Verum Serum]:
The Left-wing hate rhetoric even extended to Jane Fonda, who had this to say on her blog:
But today, my heart and mind is full of the horriffic news of the shooting in Arizona of Rep Gabrielle Giffords and others by, I am sure, right wing fanatics who have been repeatedly harassing and threatening Giffords, egged on by Sarah Palin and Glen Beck and Tea Party members.
We must stop this madness, this violent rhetoric which media exploits!!
Before information was even in on the actual shooter, Left-wing haters were shouting from the rooftops (from their keyboards, actually) that racist “Teabaggers” were responsible for the shooting. These are just a few of the Tweets:
The Left’s sheer hypocrisy at claiming the Right engages in vitriolic rhetoric is even more diabolical when all they have to do is look in the mirror (or listen to Barack Obama). However, one can only imagine how deeply disappointed they became when they learned that their accusations were wrong. You see, in their demented rush to heap blame on the Right, Sarah Palin and the Tea Party movement, the hard-core Left and their sycophantic followers in the media forgot to do something really important…check the facts.
As in other cases, the facts don’t really matter to the vile and vitriolic Left because the ends justify the means. They were so certain that the shooter was going to turn out to be a Tea Party activist, some right-wing nut job, that their giddiness at being able to paint the brush could not contain itself long enough for the facts. [And, yes, the Leftists appeared giddy at the shooting and their ability to blame the Right at something so heinous.]
Through the day on Saturday, as more information became known about the shooter, Jared Loughner, it turned out the killer appears to be, as are most assassins throughout history, just a plain whack-job loser. If anything, it could be made (with vitriolic rhetoric) that the killer is more aligned with the Left as his listing of Marx’s Communist Manifesto and Hitler’s Mein Kampf among his favorite books, as well as his flag-burning video are not something that any rational Lefty could associate with the beliefs of Palin, Beck, Limbaugh or most Tea Party activists.
Claiming that a Left-wing whack job is the one who killed a little girl and five others would be stooping to the gutter-level lows of the Left though. Instead, it appears that Jared Loughner has more in common with Leon Czolgosz, the whack-job loser who shot President McKinley in 1901.
* In 1901, Emma Goldman, was in fact arrested by police in Chicago who detained her believing she might be part of a conspiracy to kill the President. She was later released though as it became clear that she could not be blamed for the actions of a madman.
Just as anarchist Emma Goldman could not be held responsible for the actions of a madman, for the Left to try to destroy the Tea Party movement at all costs, including assigning Jared Loughman’s actions to Sarah Palin, Beck or anyone else’s rhetoric is insidiously evil.
Lastly, for all the hyperbole that will be heaped on by the Left over the coming days and weeks ahead about toning down the rhetoric, they need to clean out their own mouths first.
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“I bring reason to your ears, and, in language as plain as ABC, hold up truth to your eyes.” Thomas Paine, December 23, 1776



Jeff Emanuel
Great piece, LUR. And just to be more clear,
Vassar Bushmills (Diary) Sunday, January 9th at 3:45PM EDT (link)…for the next two years, a Democrat congress person will be the most impotent political force on earth. Only a mad leftist would think such a per son to be a viable target. but i repeat myself.
Ah the voice of reason...
Maggie_in_Indiana (Diary) Sunday, January 9th at 4:01PM EDT (link)Thanks for the clarity. I forwarded this to Rush, hope there’s a mention along with Eric’s post. I haven’t read any other points of view like these two on the subject of the shooting and the left’s view of who to blame.
Maggie in Indiana
Others Have Commented
edintexas Monday, January 10th at 8:55AM EDT (link)There was an opinion piece, of all places on AOL-Netscape stating that there has been a rush to judgement and the MSM/Left needs to obtain the facts before there is further comment.
FNC, this morning, is doing their “Fair and Balanced” routine, while discussing Anti-Semitism alleged ties, and “crawling” that he was part of an “anti-government group” (isn’t that code for Conservative?), they also mentioned that a former acquaintance described him as “Left Wing” and “a pothead”. FNC also reported he was refused entry to the US Army because of a drug use issue. And they also reported the comments of others attending college with him, citing e-Mails which described him as unbalanced and a perceived threat.
Left wing internet activists
michaelbowler Sunday, January 9th at 4:22PM EDT (link)are spewing this rhetoric everywhere I look today. This topic dominated discussions on townhall.com, despite the fact that none of the articles dealt directly with this topic. Likewise it is on facebook, twitter, and others.
We expect such chicanery from the trolls, even the lefty blogs, but for the “news media” to engage in this kind of deliberate misinformation, aimed at scoring short term political points…or worse, actively trying to incite violence themselves. This is beyond partisan journalism or journalistic malpractice, this is journalistic malfeasance.
Have we really reached this level of vitriolic hatred? Are our “news” outlets really trying to inspire a civil war? How can any of these organizations justify such behavior?
America, it is evident that forces of political revolution are trying to take advantage of this event to start something they have desired for some time and aren’t thinking of the best interests of the public as a whole, only their ideology. Completely irresponsible and wontan disregard for public safety is the only way to describe this.
There is a subtext behind this post...
LaborUnionReport (Diary) Sunday, January 9th at 4:46PM EDT (link)And that is the fact that this issue is not without historical precedent, beyond the McKinley example used.
Vitriolic rhetoric is and has always been part of political discourse and, in many cases, has involved what we call today ‘mainstream media.’
It does not make it right, but it will likely always be there.
Yesterday’s behavior (and, as you mention, today’s as well) is shocking in that there is no truth to it whatsoever–not a shred.
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There's a reason as to why God says,
lineholder (Diary) Sunday, January 9th at 4:24PM EDT (link)“Vengeance is MINE”.
The minute we as human being’s even remotely consider acting with vengeance in mind, we leave ourselves wide open to pure evil. It doesn’t matter how much we justify our actions as a means to some end.
Evil exists in it all the same.
Oh, LUR, I believe that most of us as conservatives are able to keep this truth in mind. I pray that we will, for the sake of our nation. But I have to admit that I wonder some times if our progressive counterparts see the evil for what it is.
Bad comparison...
Addison (Diary) Sunday, January 9th at 4:37PM EDT (link)The comparison here is awful. Emma Goldman had earlier actually plotted an assassination attempt on a businessman (the plot was unsuccessfully executed by her lover). It was part and parcel of Goldman’s political strategy (specifically her “propaganda of the deed”), and so married to her ongoing pro-anarchist rhetoric it wasn’t such a leap for a student of hers to try his hand at political violence at the highest level. Additionally, Czolgosz had actually met Goldman and had tried to get into her circle (Goldman though he was police spy).
Yesterday’s assassin never mentioned Sarah Palin as far as we currently know, and almost certainly didn’t venture up to Wasilla to get close to her. Sarah Palin of course has no history of attempting to kill anyone, no history of advocating such a thing outside of some common idioms, and instead has embraced omnipresent publicity and supporting primary challenges of moderate Republicans as her main political tactic.
Anyway, I get what you’re trying to do. But Goldman absolutely WAS partially responsible for Czolgosz’s actions in a way Palin was evidently not. So while I think you’re using lefty “heroes” against them to prove hypocrisy that shows Palin’s innocence, I think you’re accomplishing the opposite: the comparison doesn’t work and makes Palin way, way more culpable than she is via the analogy with Goldman/Czolgosz. You’re also excusing Goldman’s words and actions in a way that I disagree with entirely.
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LaborUnionReport (Diary) Sunday, January 9th at 4:56PM EDT (link)…was the target of Goldman and her lover’s plot. I am aware of it (and was in writing this), as well as the “propaganda of the deed” and purposely used the Goldman analogy because it could be argued that her writing/preachings were likely more influential on McKinley’s assassin.
On the other hand, as evidence so far suggests, yesterday’s shooter was not a Palin/TP follower by any stretch of the imagination, and quite the contrary. That is why I said tried–and failed, their facts were completely false and it was a lie they were fabricating yesterday. They heaped on the rhetoric and failed in both methodology and fact.
I appreciate your dislike for the comparison, but have to disagree.
“I bring reason to your ears, and, in language as plain as ABC, hold up truth to your eyes.” Thomas Paine December 23, 1776
In any compromise between food and poison, it is only death that can win. In any compromise between good and evil, it is only evil that can profit.-Ayn Rand
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Hannity, Beck, Rush, Palin, et al are failures.
Tbone (Diary) Sunday, January 9th at 4:38PM EDT (link)There must be 10 million people who listen to them. Yet, by the Left’s logic of lunacy they inspire their listeners to violence. If that were true, one out of 10 million is not much of a success story. Of course, it isn’t true by any measure including that of percentages.
We have also endured a countless stream of talking heads bemoaning the heated rhetoric between Right and Left. Yet, I see no civil war with casualties mounting. Just isolated incidents of minor assault, which, if they were tallied, are instigated by the Left 90%+ of the time.
Listening to the talking heads one would think there were as many battles between Right and Left as there are youth soccer league games.
We actually live in a very civil country. So far.
Envisioning when all that is Left is the Right.
"So far" indeed
DerKrieger (Diary) Sunday, January 9th at 4:48PM EDT (link)I’ve often wondered just how far down the road to socialism the Left can push us before someone on the Right really does lose it and get violent. The Leftists are committed to socialism and won’t stop until they either succeed or are stopped by those more committed to freedom then the Left are to Marxism.
As a parent I liken the behavior of the Left to a very young child who continues to ask for something even after being told “no” repeatedly. They just keep asking, and asking, and begging, and crying until at some point the parent loses it and either relents, shouts at the child, sends the child to his/her room, or spanks the child for not taking “no” for an answer.
The only question is, when the civilized Right eventually does snap, what will be the reaction? I simply refuse to believe we’ll allow Marxism in this country to proceed any farther.
“In questions of power, let no more be heard of confidence in man, but bind him down from mischief by the chains of the Constitution.” – Thomas Jefferson
“I cannot undertake to lay my finger on that article of the Constitution which granted a right to Congress of expending, on objects of benevolence, the money of their constituents.” – James Madison
Whenever the legislators endeavor to take away and destroy the property of the people, or to reduce them to slavery under arbitrary power, they put themselves into a state of war with the people, who are thereupon absolved from any further obedience.” — John Locke, 1690
ready for push-back
chamberD Sunday, January 9th at 5:18PM EDT (link)Thoughtful comments, DerKrieger.
We’ve erect a wall beyond which we will not permit the left to go; the only thing that remains to be answered is what shape the push-back of that wall will take. For it is not likely that THEY will give ground without some real nastiness.
For our side, some real clarity of thought regarding first principles and goals need to be succinctly articulated and assertively disseminated in order to combat the real threat we face: the lie of liberalism
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The only question...
edintexas Monday, January 10th at 10:13AM EDT (link)While I often doubt that the citizens will actually get off the couch long enough to take action, I worry about what the action would be if they do get off that couch. So far, many are actually sitting up and taking notice. Whether the “bread and circuses” they have been, and are being, fed will take them back to snoozing is an open question not yet resolved.
We already have far too many citizens who have a vested interest in keeping the goodies flowing from “Uncle” to their families and selves. The Left (both parties) have turned the income tax system into a welfare program with “refunds” to people who were not required to pay tax, this on top of all the other welfare programs. And the Left plans on putting more people on “the dole” (as my parents called it). When the number of people paying no income tax, and receiving payments from the various levels of government exceeds half the population – then I fear it will be impossible to turn the tide. I would exclude current retirees who don’t have enough income to be subject to income tax from that .
Great post!
streetwise (Diary) Sunday, January 9th at 4:45PM EDT (link)The left hasn’t displayed such analytical prowess since their brilliant observations on the Duke rape “case”.
Democrats Should Look in the Mirror Indeed
1689 Sunday, January 9th at 4:48PM EDT (link)Durbin on TV refers to Palin, “putting crosshairs on congressional districts . . . .” but conviently forgets it was Obama, Biden & McCaskill over the last several months who came out with the true hateful rhetoric, practically begging their followers to engage in violence against Republicans.
1) On October 25th on Univision, our wonderful President told Hispanics that they had to “punish” their Republican “enemies”;
2) On October 5, our wonder President said that if the Republicans won control of the House, there would be “hand-to-hand combat” on Capitol Hill;
3) Biden said on October 6th, that he wanted to “strangle” Republicans; and
4) SEN-A-TOR Claire McCaskill said after the election that if the Republicans kept objecting to confiscatory taxes, then it was time to get out the “pitchforks.”
But that’s the Alinskyite approach for Democrats: blame the other side for the very conduct you engage in every day. The Democrat leadership are a bunch of hypocrites. And it appears to have backfired on them: a nut went after one of their own. You certainly got the lion’s share of blood on your hands Democrats.
You know LUR what we have today, that wasn't present then?...
JadedByPolitics (Diary) Sunday, January 9th at 4:56PM EDT (link)Meghan Kelley of FOX News, who just forced the Sheriff that accused talk radio of being the perpetrator to admit that that commentary was his POLITICAL opinion. The internet has given this Country that which was lacking for far too long the TRUTH!
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You're right, Jaded...
LaborUnionReport (Diary) Sunday, January 9th at 4:59PM EDT (link)which is why the internet, to them, must be regulated.
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Which is why they have to be stopped from doing so...
JadedByPolitics (Diary) Sunday, January 9th at 5:31PM EDT (link)The Republicans in the House have to get on this immediately, it is the most pressing issue as far as I am concerned!
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Absolutely agreed, Jaded.
acat (Diary) Sunday, January 9th at 5:52PM EDT (link)Regulating the Internet is right up there with Obamacare in things that the 112th needs to hit on Day 1.
Without a free exchange of ideas, we’re dooming our children to second-world status … at best.
Mew
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Addison is quite right.
supercap Sunday, January 9th at 5:03PM EDT (link)Emma Goldman was an awful, awful person. So were/are the vast majority of left-wing anarchists. Right wing anarchists, as crazy as they may be, usually don’t send mail bombs to embassies, assassinate public officials, or toss molotov cocktails in the streets of Greece.
It’s fair to criticize left wing hypocrisy over the target thing, but the target map/rhetoric absolutely should not be defended. It was completely irresponsible, even though it is quite clear that Palin/Tea Party types had absolutely nothing to do with the tragedy in Arizona.
It’s another Joe Stack incident basically, and it’s a shame that the people that jumped the gun aren’t going to be held accountable for their false accusations.
No...
Addison (Diary) Sunday, January 9th at 5:20PM EDT (link)…while I do think I’m right, I don’t think I’m right in the way you go on to elaborate that I’m right. So I wanted to reply.
First of all once you get into delineating “right-wing” and “left-wing” anarchism you begin to lose the fact that anarchists are sort of off the charts to some degree (although in practice they tend to be concerned with more traditionally “left” issues than “right,” I guess). Anarchists of the “black box” variety aren’t in favor of a strong military or a welfare state, and when they bomb government facilities it’s clearly not because they’re terrible concerned about which party wins Federal elections or picks SCOTUS nominees.
The use of violent imagery and rhetoric in politics can’t be defended, no, but at the same time war rhetoric and violent rhetoric is part of sports commentary and literature and every other sphere. It’s the way we talk. So it’s not “completely irresponsible,” it’s contextually inappropriate and unnecessary and heightens a tense situation a few clicks. It should be lessened — BUT it’s potent and works, so we’ll see a bipartisan return to it over the next few months.
This is not another Joe Stack incident for a variety of reasons, even if it bears some of the same disgrunted nihilist loner hallmarks.
Mostly I just think Emma Goldman WAS responsible. Very much so. And that was why I commented on LUR’s essay.
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Sorry
supercap Sunday, January 9th at 5:39PM EDT (link)Sorry, didn’t mean to attribute to you anything you didn’t intend to say.
Individual responsibility...
LaborUnionReport (Diary) Sunday, January 9th at 5:58PM EDT (link)This may be where we are in disagreement on the use on Goldman as an analogy, Addison.
Emma Goldman was a vile person. She preached anarchy and plotted violence. However, did her preachings put her in Buffalo pulling the trigger? Was there evidence suggesting that she told the assassin to go to Buffalo? Did she even know the assassin? Apparently not, as the authorities would have loved to have found it. Even though Leon Czolgosz claimed that he was a follower of her ideology (as vile as it may be), his actions were his own.
Now, take yesterday’s shootings and say (hypothetically) that Loughner was a regular attendee to TP meetings. Would the argument be that the speaker bore responsibility? It certainly would be from the Left (as they are trying now). Do those who use fiery rhetoric (right or left) bear responsibility for the actions of a lunatic?
If so where is the line drawn?
Note: By the use of the term ‘rhetoric’ I am differentiating between those who use fiery rhetoric in political speech, as opposed to those who urge followers to use violence.
In Goldman’s case, she did both. But there wasn’t evidence that she urged the assassination of McKinley–despite his afinity for anarchy and Goldman Czolgosz acted alone.
In Loughman’s case, not only is the Left wrong in trying to tie him to the TPM or Palin, but their guilt-by-association attacks are wrong, period,
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Legal vs. moral culpability...
Addison (Diary) Sunday, January 9th at 6:11PM EDT (link)Well, there’s a difference between legal and moral culpability. Legally maybe Goldman didn’t do anything (in the McKinley assassination) deserving of jail time. But Goldman had such a clear connection to the McKinley assassination both in politics and tactics that morally or publicly had she any standing BEFORE the incident it should have been lost afterwards. She should have been shamed entirely and had to repent before anyone of any political leaning ever listened to her again.
And if the shooter went to some Tea Party (or Anarchist, or Green, or whatever) meetups, I would say that if there was fiery violent rhetoric at those the people running the meetings or speaking there are morally culpable and should lose their standing and should feel guilty and pariah’d. I don’t think that they should necessarily be up for jail time unless there was some sort of command (again, any connection at ALL being speculative, there’s no evidence). And it shouldn’t have any impact on any Tea Party meetings that the shooter didn’t go to, the movement is local enough that such an affiliation isn’t justified. Tea Party people I know are far less likely than average to do this sort of thing so I recoil against the idea of the hypothetical situation somehow implicating all Tea Party people, especially given the revelations regarding the suspects psychological status.
Anyway, I think that except for the legal/moral difference I’ve said mostly what I wanted to in my original post. I’m going to stop now because (a) I am, as most long-time posters here know, an Obama-voting centrist sort of person and (b) I really don’t like or respect Sarah Palin. So even though in this instance I’m defending her against association with Emma Goldman, I’d rather not come on this site as a guest and discuss her at length, given those feelings — that’d be inviting trouble.
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You just went down that slippery slope...
LaborUnionReport (Diary) Sunday, January 9th at 6:55PM EDT (link)So, in the future, someone from the Right does engage in some horrific crime, it will be Palin, Beck, or whomever the follower follows’ fault?
How about Obama supporters? His fault?
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If the links are clearly there...
Addison (Diary) Sunday, January 9th at 7:15PM EDT (link)…between the words and action, if person A says do X and person B listens and does X, I don’t see how you wriggle out of some sort of culpability. Maybe not criminal liability, depending on the circumstances, but does it reflect poorly on the public figure and their moral standing? Yeah, I think so, leaders can’t have all the power and plaudits of leadership and avoid all of the responsibility if things turn ugly or violent. Of course the actual perpetrator in any given situation is not excused in the slightest — it’s not a “zero sum” game of guilt — but if a person is in a position of respect and uses that respect to incite violence they should lose some measure of that respect from society.
I don’t see enough of a link between the AZ shooter’s actions and any political group or politician or viewpoint, though, for any of the above to be applicable in this case. He apparently had severe psychological issues that rendered any political viewpoint arbitrary.
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Well then, by those standards, BHO has a lot of blood on his hands...
LaborUnionReport (Diary) Sunday, January 9th at 8:08PM EDT (link)http://www.redstate.com/california_yankee/2011/01/09/the-extreme-rhetoric-should-stop-here/
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Do You See The Fix?
edintexas Monday, January 10th at 10:50AM EDT (link)Do you see the answer to this problem (political speech, which does not rise to the legal level of inciting, giving rise to moral culpability) being regulating speech?
I’m quite sure the Left would be happy to take up that cudgel and outlaw hate – er – talk radio, Beck, Palin and others. In fact they already are: Representative Bill Brady (no relation to Sarah, I assume) (D-PA) “…explained to CNN that his bill would also ban symbols or language that threaten “a congressman, senator or federal judge.”
Slightly off topic, but – as predicted – the “usual suspects” in the anti-gun world are already hard at work to take advantage of this lunatic’s work. McCarthy, and others, are already jumping on the “large capacity magazine ban” bandwagon. I guess that falls into the “the sun will rise” prediction category.
On “Targets” and “Target Lists”…
ntrepid (Diary) Sunday, January 9th at 5:15PM EDT (link)The reflexive pretence of the American word police never ceases to astound.
This instant draw to entirely appropriate uses of “targets” and “target lists” (both words and symbols by Palin and others) without a hint of the type of sermonizing we’ve grown accustomed to with respect to the varied and common bifurcated contexts of words such as “Jihad” is not out of character for modern American Left. Even the hint of intellectual consistency might give them a rash.
For the record, the nuts don’t own the language.
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The most common response to the target maps the Democrats used
andysmith (Diary) Sunday, January 9th at 5:30PM EDT (link)is that “well, no one was actually shot when those were posted, so what’s your point?”
The point is simple; you (leftists) are hypocrites. If ever there was any doubt about where I stood on the political spectrum (which there never has been), it’s certainly been erased by now.
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curmudgeon
edwyrd (Diary) Sunday, January 9th at 5:37PM EDT (link)were we the surly cantankerous bushwhackers they claim, then they would fear us. being so cerebral, we are not feared, in a visceral sense, that is. but sulk not lads! we are the political curmudgeons! quick to vengence and impossilble to dissuade, ill tempered and stupid at the polls! and when the 2012 tally is a shelacking of even greater proportions than 2010, then maybe they will shut up!!!
“but men are different, they propound mathmatical theorms in beleaguered cities, conduct metaphysical arguments in condemned cells, make jokes on scaffolds, discuss the last new poem while advancing to the walls of quebec and comb their hair at thermopylae. it is our nature!
—C.S Lewis, weight of glory
Don't forget Jodie Foster being responsible for the attempt on Reagan
Jack_Savage (Diary) Sunday, January 9th at 5:41PM EDT (link)…and J.D. Salinger’s clear culpability in the death of John Lennon. At least these people were actually mentioned by the shooter.
Why do they think they can get away with the vitriol and character assassination.?
bobmontgomery (Diary) Sunday, January 9th at 5:43PM EDT (link)1. Because they can.
2. Because the science is settled.
3. because Republicans are mean spirited.
4. Because Republicans used to whip Negroes. And still whip Mexicans.
5. Because Christians are hypocrites and want to establish a theocracy, abetted by some Jews who don’t know any better.
6. Because America is synonymous with all kind of phobias, not to mention dreams of conquest and domination.
7. Because fairness demands that the constitutional principle of redistributive justice be affirmed in the face of rampant Conservative obstructionism.
These are universal truths. These things are taught in the schools. It is the duty of the press and the television comedians to repeat them as opportunities arise.
If the freedom of speech is taken away then dumb and silent we may be led, like sheep to the slaughter.
George Washington
It appears the Left contends the Tea Party
jmimac351 Sunday, January 9th at 6:54PM EDT (link)convinced one of the Left’s lunatic, commie supporters to shoot a Dem Congresswoman. This guy was sick and Godless and, as such, many on the Left should know exactly the rage he kept inside himself.
The Left is screaming because they know he was one of their own.
A Correction for Verum Serum
edintexas Monday, January 10th at 11:05AM EDT (link)The linked Verum Serum article uses the MSM/Left designation of the Unicode Character “POSITION INDICATOR (U+2316) as “gun-sights” (“Granted these are bulls-eyes instead of gun-sights…”). I think we are really walking on thin ice (an apt term here in the South today) when we accept the Left’s terminology without question. We can’t let them set the terms of the “debate”, or we lose. You know, a lie is around the world and all that.
Others on RS have already pointed out this particular egregious mis-use of the Unicode terminology, we have a duty to try and get the truth to catch up to the lie.
Some Liberals are Disgusting
Juggernaut (Diary) Monday, January 10th at 6:10PM EDT (link)These filthy degenerates at the KOS and so forth do the same thing and pretend to be innocent. Is it no wonder why some people even care to read such garbage. Why is Palin making all the news, why aren’t the media focused on KOS and the other dem groups?
The scum at MSNBC have already ranted about Palin on Hardball and Ed Schultz is bloviating the same nonsense. MSNBC needs decency standards as do many lib radio jerkies. Its just like 1995 Oklahoma City bombing. At least Obama had a respectful message in comparison to Clinton’s mistake.
RomneyCare is Right Wing Socialism –
Romney “severely conservative”? That’s the opposite of a “compassionate conservative” like George W. Bush? Actually, we know what a severely conservative is. It’s Dick Cheney and Mitt Romney is no Dick Cheney.